Winseer:
The-Snowman:
Winseer:
You get paid for attending court as a Juror, but not as a “witness” unless you are an expert witness, like one of the ‘CSI’ type teams etc…
Em yes you do. Ive attended court around half dozen times as a witness and filled in an expense form and been reimbursed. You get your employer to sign for how much you lost for a days pay,plus travel expenses. And ive never actually been called in a court room either
If your employer doesn’t dock you any pay - the court won’t be paying you more than your bus fare then - right? 
Well yes thats correct. You only get paid if you take a day off for it. But thats not what you said though. You said you didn’t get paid but thats not entirelly accurate!
I had a similar thing happen to me, about 2 months ago on a Saturday night, some yobs came down my street smashing windows on a house i was woken at about 2 am by the noise looked out of my bedroom window, i saw a car with 3 lads with baseball bats getting into the car which then sped of, i went down plod had been called and turned up, i gave a statement and description of what i saw from my window, ive not heard anything no mail no phone calls, so in your case i sound,s open and shut, i doubt you will get a call up.
If you tell your boss you saw the scrote nicking diesel, he’s bound to let you have the time off to go to court. 
Winseer:
The-Snowman:
Winseer:
You get paid for attending court as a Juror, but not as a “witness” unless you are an expert witness, like one of the ‘CSI’ type teams etc…
Em yes you do. Ive attended court around half dozen times as a witness and filled in an expense form and been reimbursed. You get your employer to sign for how much you lost for a days pay,plus travel expenses. And ive never actually been called in a court room either
If your employer doesn’t dock you any pay - the court won’t be paying you more than your bus fare then - right?
nope the employer will have a form a too fill in stating what the employee earns per hour, then the employee will have too work out how much it will cost too get too court which when filled in you will hand too the duty officer at the court on the day, after the case is dealt with and your free to go you will go the office and receive your expenses incurred back.
Whenever a witness statement is taken, it is normal procedure to ask the person giving the statement about their willingness to attend court if required. The evidential value of the statement will be considered before deciding whether to include it in the evidence bundle for court. Even if the witness has indicated that he would not be willing to attend court, it is still of value as its content may well be accepted “as is” by the defence - they will only call to court those witnesses whose testimony they wish to challenge under oral cross-examination, with others being accepted under “Section 9” (of the Criminal Justice Act 1967). These “Section 9” statements will be read out in court without the witness being required to attend.
In practice, the statement of the bloke who heard a commotion, saw three blokes with baseball bats (in my day it was pick-axe handles 
) jumping into a car and speeding off would be accepted “Section 9” - especially if there are other witnesses who confirm what he says. The only witnesses likely to be called in person are the ones who can give detailed descriptions of offenders, or who spoke to them or took some more “hands-on” part in proceedings.
mattecube:
If you are summoned to appear as a witness you must attend and an employer can not stop you
gov.uk/going-to-court-victi … g-to-court
correct, if you are summoned and dont attend then a warrent for your arrest is issued by the judge and you will be up in front of the judge for contempt of court which carries a prison sentence or hefty fine.
Alternatively, smash the scrots hands to a pulp, and dont bother the police.
A win win situation. No wasting of police or court time, and more pertinently, the little ■■■■■■■■ wont do it again. Unlike when he gets 240 hours community service. …
When working ex Cov airport at the beginning of my career and broke some years ago I lived in a rough area of Coventry - Willenhall. I lived directly across from a cop shop. One 2am phone call later from the police explaining that someone had broken into my car - a crappy square 80s ■■■■■■ 1.3 popular, which was parked outside my house (and opposite the police station). They had caught one person (bloody hoped so, opposite the cop shop?!) but the accomplice had legged it. Long story short, it was a real ■■■■ up. Keystone cops.
Question asked would I be willing to appear in court. Yes of course said I. Never heard anything back regarding the matter.
A Car broken into outside cop shop.
Assailant caught.
Car wheeled all of 50 feet across the road (with assistance from me because cops seemed confused by the task) to the police station compound so evidence could be taken next day.
All this. A conviction on a plate, yet nothing. I long since gave up any hope of English police and CPS being of any use other than nicking motorists or pub brawlers. Northern Ireland police on the other hand different in my own experience (I know they have a very very dodgy past). My girlfriend was assaulted in a pretty inappropriate way one day out shopping in Belfast. I called the Police. Brilliant. They lifted the guy the next day. They even rang to say they had lifted him. No need to attend court in the end. They were working on him. He was sent down anyway. When he was released they even came round to speak to her personally to let her know and offered support services.
Edit. Over here they seem far less concerned with motoring offences rather than real crime. Although there are a couple of speed camera vans appearing so maybe they have caught the revenue cold from England. I’ve 3 or 4 friends working in the “civil service” over here and reading between the lines I do suspect a cyclist continuously chucking in his Gopro videos to the peelers in the hope of motoring convictions over here would get told to bugger off and get a life unlike the cycling vigilante that appeared on the Jeremy Vine show earlier this week in England.
nodding donkey:
Alternatively, smash the scrots hands to a pulp, and dont bother the police.
A win win situation. No wasting of police or court time, and more pertinently, the little [zb] wont do it again. Unlike when he gets 240 hours community service. …
With todays laws you’d probably end up in more trouble than they would!
A very similar thing happened to me.
I witnessed a crime and the Police took my statement which ending up going to court.
I was told because I was prepared to go to court and give evidence the man accused changed his plea from Not Guilty to Guilty. So because he pleaded guilty I didn’t need to give my evidence. I was at court on the day but wasn’t needed.
He was banged to rights and found guilty.
I think he received a 2 week holiday as his sentence. ( 6 months suspended sentence as this was only his 4th offence.) you couldn’t make it up.
Well I’ve had jury duty twice and been a witness in a stabbing at Glasgow sheriff court and once at the high court. And all 3 times it has left a right bitter taste in my mouth about the legal system!! Jury duty you just get treated like a utter dumpling it’s a whole waste of bloody time. The costs do not cover your wages whatsoever maybe if you work in bloody Burger King it might. Being a witness in the stand you face a bargage eh ■■■■■■■ intimidating questions that make you feel like a criminal.
Infact I’ve had jury duty 3 times but the 3rd time I didnt even bother my arse going, hopefully that will be an end to it!
Glasgow sheriff court all the cases are about shoplifters and junkies, stabbings just burn the lot of them. All guilty before I even set eyes on them!!
Before somebody gives me it’s part of your duty speech I’ve heard it all before, I’m a great citizen, I help little old grannies across the road, I take out my neighbours wheelie bins when they forget but am no going through all that bloody rigmarole so some junkie can get 2 months in jail then come out and do it all again!!
The-Snowman:
Winseer:
The-Snowman:
Winseer:
You get paid for attending court as a Juror, but not as a “witness” unless you are an expert witness, like one of the ‘CSI’ type teams etc…
Em yes you do. Ive attended court around half dozen times as a witness and filled in an expense form and been reimbursed. You get your employer to sign for how much you lost for a days pay,plus travel expenses. And ive never actually been called in a court room either
If your employer doesn’t dock you any pay - the court won’t be paying you more than your bus fare then - right?
Well yes thats correct. You only get paid if you take a day off for it. But thats not what you said though. You said you didn’t get paid but thats not entirelly accurate!
If you get docked, and the court makes up your money - they are re-imbursing you rather than paying you any actual wages.
You tend to make a profit if it’s “enough” expenses though, since you might get docked £150 for example (say, your boss had to cover your 13 hour shift with an agency at that cost that day)
in which case when the court pays you the £150 back to cover it - it will be tax free, and you’ll be better by the amount of tax you’d normally pay on the £150 overall.
Even this however, is still not technically “being paid” like an expert witness is.
Winseer:
You tend to make a profit if it’s “enough” expenses though, since you might get docked £150 for example (say, your boss had to cover your 13 hour shift with an agency at that cost that day)
in which case when the court pays you the £150 back to cover it - it will be tax free, and you’ll be better by the amount of tax you’d normally pay on the £150 overall.
Even this however, is still not technically “being paid” like an expert witness is.
Ok I see where your coming from and what you meant.
Paying/reimburse
Potato/potatoe
The-Snowman:
nodding donkey:
Alternatively, smash the scrots hands to a pulp, and dont bother the police.
A win win situation. No wasting of police or court time, and more pertinently, the little [zb] wont do it again. Unlike when he gets 240 hours community service. …
With todays laws you’d probably end up in more trouble than they would!
Offences Against The Person Act (which covers GBH) predates the Theft Act by over 100 years…
Hanging may not be a deterrent but they never re-offend.
well I was called once as a witness when a wheel came of a wagon behind me , passed me and whacked a VW minibus head on ,well I couldn’t get past so I was asked by plod did you see where the wheel came from and I said from behind …duh …never again. So about a year later got the witness summons ,told plod I had no idea what was going on …anyway case was on a Wednesday so turned up…waited all day come back the morn…same Thursday…Friday morn at 5 past 9am told it was all over so went to collect my money …it was 10 hrsx2 days + travel money + carpark_+2 meals …I complained that I lost Fridays wages as well as my wagon was out…they phoned the gaffer he said no bloody use him coming in as no wagon or other work 
ended up wae another 10hrs money…Dumfries sheriffs court aprox 1990.