Suez Canal blocked

Appy:
Boss we need a bigger Digger

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No rush and it only needs 12 feet of water to float it…measured from the top of the bank where the digger is sitting. :laughing:

Hasn’t anyone got a winch on a Hilux, over there? :wink:

Anybody who advocates putting a line across and going “hard astern”, shows an utter and total lack of knowledge of hydro dynamics in a canal.

Simply put, anything other than minimal power from the engines of these freight ships, will do massive damage to the bed and banks of the canal. These ships use only enough forward power to maintain low speed, to maintain steerage.
Normally, on a canal (or in any shallow water), when grounded, the trick is to apply reverse trust, to push water under the boat, which can give just enough buoyancy to start reversing out of trouble. In this case that’s not possible, because it appears that the bow was blown/steered off course (to starboard), causing the bow to hit and wedge on the starboard bank, with the remaining momentum of the vessel then causing the stern to be pushed to port, and wedge on the port bank.

I dont know what the profile of the Suez canal is, but if its typical then the sides are sloping down towards the centre (the channel), and in that case she’ll be well and truly wedged.
I think they’ll need a dredger, that JCB won’t be able to get far enough or deep enough to make a channel for the bow to be pulled sideways towards the channel.

Carryfast:
A few puny tugs.
When they could line up all the waiting container ships with lines between them and then attach a line or 6 from the front one to the rear of the stuck one and then all go full astern with how many combined horsepower.
Bonus points for doing the opposite at the front.
It might pull the back and/or front end off the ship though turning a drama into a crisis. :laughing:

Oh dear… oh dear…

I know you have a reputation to keep up, but that takes ignorance to a whole new level…

the nodding donkey:

Carryfast:
A few puny tugs.
When they could line up all the waiting container ships with lines between them and then attach a line or 6 from the front one to the rear of the stuck one and then all go full astern with how many combined horsepower.
Bonus points for doing the opposite at the front.
It might pull the back and/or front end off the ship though turning a drama into a crisis. :laughing:

Oh dear… oh dear…

I know you have a reputation to keep up, but that takes ignorance to a whole new level…

If you want the most pull for the least engine rpms lots of ships tied together using their combined slow engine settings is a bad thing how compared to a tug or 12 at full power. :confused:

Agency drivers …

Carryfast:

the nodding donkey:

Carryfast:
A few puny tugs.
When they could line up all the waiting container ships with lines between them and then attach a line or 6 from the front one to the rear of the stuck one and then all go full astern with how many combined horsepower.
Bonus points for doing the opposite at the front.
It might pull the back and/or front end off the ship though turning a drama into a crisis. :laughing:

Oh dear… oh dear…

I know you have a reputation to keep up, but that takes ignorance to a whole new level…

If you want the most pull for the least engine rpms lots of ships tied together using their combined slow engine settings is a bad thing how compared to a tug or 12 at full power. :confused:

Unlike you, I speak from practical experience…

> the nodding donkey:
> Unlike you, I speak from practical experience…

I struggle to think what job at sea would suit CF.

The only position that comes anywhere near is that of ‘Topaz’ a job that used to exist on British Ships with Indian Crew.
Cleaned the Officers Bathroom’s in the morning and kept the main deck clean in the afternoon with a dustpan & brush

the nodding donkey:
Unlike you, I speak from practical experience…

To be fair practical experience of driving a submersible bulldozer would be more use in this case before deciding on the best way to pull it off the bank. :wink: :smiley:

whisperingsmith:
I struggle to think what job at sea would suit CF.

The only position that comes anywhere near is that of ‘Topaz’ a job that used to exist on British Ships with Indian Crew.
Cleaned the Officers Bathroom’s in the morning and kept the main deck clean in the afternoon with a dustpan & brush

I’ve already got the job of driving the 360 diggger on the night shift.Could do with some of those searchlights though.:laughing:

Meanwhile in UK…

I thought that the first excuse for this was ‘total engine failure disabling steering and loss of power’.

Has this been confirmed? If the main engine is seriously broken, re-floating will not be an instant end to the problem, minor repairs could be done on the spot, would maybe need MAN/B & W fitters to attend with necessary kit.
If the engine is in fact kaput, it would make sense to make a start on repairs anyway.

Star down under.:
Hasn’t anyone got a winch on a Hilux, over there? :wink:

Nope just machine guns…[emoji2369][emoji2369]

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lancpudn:
Meanwhile in UK…

Oh yes, classic. Bow got pushed out and across by the wind. A line has already been made from the bow to the nearside bank (stop the bow being pushed further along
and against the opposite bank), now it should be a simple case of pushing the stern out from the near side bank, and start straightening up, and a gentle reverse will bring the bow back to the near side bank.

the nodding donkey:

lancpudn:
Meanwhile in UK…

Oh yes, classic. Bow got pushed out and across by the wind. A line has already been made from the bow to the nearside bank (stop the bow being pushed further along
and against the opposite bank), now it should be a simple case of pushing the stern out from the near side bank, and start straightening up, and a gentle reverse will bring the bow back to the near side bank.

That’s similar to what I said in this case.
Except pull the stern out not push it.
Although the who knows how many thousands of tonnes actually grounded on the starboard bank in this case, needing who knows how many tens of feet of water under it to refloat it, obviously makes it all a bit more difficult. :wink:

The EverGiven has a 59,300 kw diesel.
It’s an eleven cylinder two-stroke diesel.
Video here of a six pot design.
youtube.com/watch?v=IM8rxp8qB8k

All my presents for next Christmas are most likely stuck in that big ship jam. I hope a sunami does not come up the Gulf and beach all of them because I will be given fruit form Spain and grapes from Peru.

I think a name change might be in order, How about “EVERSTUCK”?

Franglais:
The EverGiven has a 59,300 kw diesel.
It’s an eleven cylinder two-stroke diesel.
Video here of a six pot design.
youtube.com/watch?v=IM8rxp8qB8k

Not much use if it needs less than half that amount directed sideways especially at the bow and/or if the prop is hitting the bottom. :laughing:

Carryfast:

Franglais:
The EverGiven has a 59,300 kw diesel.
It’s an eleven cylinder two-stroke diesel.
Video here of a six pot design.
youtube.com/watch?v=IM8rxp8qB8k

Not much use if it needs less than half that amount directed sideways especially at the bow and/or if the prop is hitting the bottom. :laughing:

If only it were designed like a ferry, this wouldn’t have happened!