Sue Gray Report

Beyond a joke:
news.sky.com/story/boris-johnso … k-12622599
The ********* is now changing the Ministerial Code that he wrote…
Now anyone found to have broken the code (I wonder who that could be?) doesn`t have to quit…
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Franglais:

bigstraight6:
As already mentioned, the majority are sick and fed up with the constant left wing media assault with all this, I wonder if they will drop it if that Labour wooden top gets a fine for his pre arranged beer and curry do?

“Starmer was filmed swigging from a beer bottle in the City of Durham MP Mary Foy’s office, on 30th April 2021, working in the run-up to the Hartlepool by-election, sparking accusations that he broke lockdown rules. At the time the country was in Step 2 out of lockdown three and people were prohibited from socialising with people outside their households but there were exceptions for key workers.
But speaking at the time the footage was published, Starmer defended his actions on LBC. He said no restaurants or pubs were open and the hotel in which he and colleagues were staying did not serve food, so “if you didn’t get a takeaway then our team wasn’t eating that evening”. He said they returned to work after eating the meal.”
indy100.com/news/keir-starmer-beer-curry-
Looks to me like eating a meal and drinking a beer, while working away from home, may have been within the rules at that time.
We already know that wasn`t the case with over a dozen parties in Downing St.

bigstraight6:
As already mentioned, the majority are sick and fed up …left wing media assault

That part seems true:
Two thirds think he is doing badly by YouGov (5th May)
yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/tr … val-rating
(reported in the that hot bed of commies: The Express)

And Angela Rayner was definitely not at the event, until photographs proved otherwise and then she miraculously was. The lefties are not holier than thou, but perhaps a low rent version.

I hope you are all having a lovely wtf.

(Wine time Friday )

OwenMoney:
I hope you are all having a lovely wtf.

(Wine time Friday )

Is it against ‘The Rules’ ? :smiley:

Just noticed where you are…no shortage there I bet. :smiley:

bigstraight6:

Franglais:

bigstraight6:
As already mentioned, the majority are sick and fed up with the constant left wing media assault with all this, I wonder if they will drop it if that Labour wooden top gets a fine for his pre arranged beer and curry do?

“Starmer was filmed swigging from a beer bottle in the City of Durham MP Mary Foy’s office, on 30th April 2021, working in the run-up to the Hartlepool by-election, sparking accusations that he broke lockdown rules. At the time the country was in Step 2 out of lockdown three and people were prohibited from socialising with people outside their households but there were exceptions for key workers.
But speaking at the time the footage was published, Starmer defended his actions on LBC. He said no restaurants or pubs were open and the hotel in which he and colleagues were staying did not serve food, so “if you didn’t get a takeaway then our team wasn’t eating that evening”. He said they returned to work after eating the meal.”
indy100.com/news/keir-starmer-beer-curry-
Looks to me like eating a meal and drinking a beer, while working away from home, may have been within the rules at that time.
We already know that wasn`t the case with over a dozen parties in Downing St.

bigstraight6:
As already mentioned, the majority are sick and fed up …left wing media assault

That part seems true:
Two thirds think he is doing badly by YouGov (5th May)
yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/tr … val-rating
(reported in the that hot bed of commies: The Express)

And Angela Rayner was definitely not at the event, until photographs proved otherwise and then she miraculously was. The lefties are not holier than thou, but perhaps a low rent version.

they are all the same just wearing diffrent colours, just wondering if durham police will reopen the case against ■■■■■■■■ since he’s now feeling miffed the met didnt send him a questionaire

scotstrucker:
they are all the same just wearing diffrent colours, just wondering if durham police will reopen the case against ■■■■■■■■ since he’s now feeling miffed the met didnt send him a questionaire

All the same?
Yeah we all remember that loose woman Maggie letting her Ministers and staff doing whatever they wanted.
And of course, those pre-covid raves Tezzer May was at…

Questionaire for ■■■■■■■■■ Right to silence?
“So theoretically, you could get no information from the questionnaire, because one of the rights you’ve got when questioned by the police is the right to remain silent.”“So you could return a blank form, I think in a criminal investigation, and it would have weight behind it. So it’s an unusual thing to do in a criminal investigation.”
Dr Nick McKerrell, a lecturer at Glasgow Caledonian University

Met Police…as noted above in this thread, when they started their investigation, Ms Gray stopped hers.
Maybe, she assumed they would be as honest and thorough as she would have been?
May…be…sh…

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Coughing fit.

Franglais:

scotstrucker:
they are all the same just wearing diffrent colours, just wondering if durham police will reopen the case against ■■■■■■■■ since he’s now feeling miffed the met didnt send him a questionaire

All the same?
Yeah we all remember that loose woman Maggie letting her Ministers and staff doing whatever they wanted.
And of course, those pre-covid raves Tezzer May was at…

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You’re forgetting Mr Beige aka John Major, the old fashioned values guy,.the back to basics champion, the family values advocater…who was slipping Edwina Currie a length on the side behind Norma’s back.
As said before, despite it not fitting in with your present campaign/agenda.,. ‘They are all the ■■■■ same’’ :bulb: … but some worse than covering it up than others.
Incidentally, can we expect this present vendetta from you for the next 5 years, or is it just a flash in the pan until summet else comes up for you to jump on.

stu675:
Parties are not illegal and have never been illegal.
If you work all day every day (legally) in close proximity with a group of people how does a virus become suddenly more deadly as soon as you break out the wine and cheese?
The only people interested in this is the BBC [emoji849]

Exactly, yes, he has acted like a prat, but he is the prat we have, an election, resignation or sudden death will simply give us another prat to deal with!

People working in hospitals & care homes were already at risk, they didn’t need family members putting them further at risk by visiting. I bet half the staff in Whitehall would have preferred furlough and working from home, the drinks may have helped them relax after a demanding day.

Its still going on.
That well known commie pinko paper The Sunday Times is still having a go at our brave and honourable lad. thetimes.co.uk/article/muzz … -vrw5xk0t6
(paywall)
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For those who prefer to listen, or don`t want to fund the left wing MSM, Moorhouse has done a short piece on it.
youtube.com/watch?v=caBnQ9CP2PA
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robroy:

dozy:
The only ones who aren’t bothered , want to move on are the ones who behaved in the same manner he did , if I’d not been able to visit a dying relative , attend there funeral etc I’d want blood
He’s a ■■■■■■■ disgrace,

Guilty as charged doze,.there was no way in hell I was going to let any govt spoil my Christmas or my social life after I had worked (admittedly apart from furlough,. which I ain’t ashamed nor embarrased to say I enjoyed btw) all year x2.

I kept away from vulnerable family members, I did not knowingly put anybody at risk, mostly because I was mixing with like minded people,.whilst people like yourself locked yourself in safety indoors …either unhealthy frightened or both (not knocking you btw doze by saying that, as I was also taken in initially watching the ’ people dropping like flies’’ in Italy, :unamused: but then I opened my eyes and what I was being told and what I was seeing ‘‘did not compute’’ so I reacted accordingly. :bulb: )

Only thing Johnson did wrong was getting caught where as I didn’t…
It’s like everything else and everybody in life.
As for your point about funerals (which I take btw) but my personal point is ,.(pre.emtped by a caveat of me saying ‘‘I am neither a fan nor an apologist for Boris Johnson’’)
That point is…
There is a world of difference between a group of people working together 10 hours a day or so/5 days a week finishing their day off with a couple of drinks in the same environment they have worked,.than 30 family members meeting for a couple of hours for a 1 off funeral. :bulb:

Franglais can’t get around the fact we are ran by MPs that are not 100% kosher and a bit dodgy,.I’d love to live in that simple world of naivity (don’t tell him Santa dont exist ffs! :open_mouth: …it’ll tip him over the edge.)

That’s all I’m saying, I’m starting to bore myself as much as Franglais bores me ( but only sometimes Frangers :wink: :laughing: )

I wasn’t locked in my house rob , I was working if you remember when you were getting paid to sit at home ■■■■■■ up ( furloughed ) , I just followed the advice given by my doctors / consultants / daughter which I was at risk so wore a mask at all times & disenfected hands etc , had all the jabs etc
As for let’s all forget , you might , I might , but a lot won’t forget his behaviour

stu675:
Parties are not illegal and have never been illegal.
If you work all day every day (legally) in close proximity with a group of people how does a virus become suddenly more deadly as soon as you break out the wine and cheese?
The only people interested in this is the BBC [emoji849]

I think all the people who couldn’t attend funerals , visit loved ones in hospitals , see mums & dads in old folks homes are not just interested , there livid with how the bloody idiot has behaved , he’ll pay at the ballot box that’s for sure , if they don’t kick him out first

ROG:
If BJ was to go then who would you like to replace him from the tory party :question:

I cannot think of anyone I would like to see as PM instead of BJ and I certainly do not want Labour with another 10 years of austerity once they have finished :exclamation:

Amber Rudd

dozy:

robroy:

dozy:
The only ones who aren’t bothered , want to move on are the ones who behaved in the same manner he did , if I’d not been able to visit a dying relative , attend there funeral etc I’d want blood
He’s a ■■■■■■■ disgrace,

Guilty as charged doze,.there was no way in hell I was going to let any govt spoil my Christmas or my social life after I had worked (admittedly apart from furlough,. which I ain’t ashamed nor embarrased to say I enjoyed btw) all year x2.

I kept away from vulnerable family members, I did not knowingly put anybody at risk, mostly because I was mixing with like minded people,.whilst people like yourself locked yourself in safety indoors …either unhealthy frightened or both (not knocking you btw doze by saying that, as I was also taken in initially watching the ’ people dropping like flies’’ in Italy, :unamused: but then I opened my eyes and what I was being told and what I was seeing ‘‘did not compute’’ so I reacted accordingly. :bulb: )

Only thing Johnson did wrong was getting caught where as I didn’t…
It’s like everything else and everybody in life.
As for your point about funerals (which I take btw) but my personal point is ,.(pre.emtped by a caveat of me saying ‘‘I am neither a fan nor an apologist for Boris Johnson’’)
That point is…
There is a world of difference between a group of people working together 10 hours a day or so/5 days a week finishing their day off with a couple of drinks in the same environment they have worked,.than 30 family members meeting for a couple of hours for a 1 off funeral. :bulb:

Franglais can’t get around the fact we are ran by MPs that are not 100% kosher and a bit dodgy,.I’d love to live in that simple world of naivity (don’t tell him Santa dont exist ffs! :open_mouth: …it’ll tip him over the edge.)

That’s all I’m saying, I’m starting to bore myself as much as Franglais bores me ( but only sometimes Frangers :wink: :laughing: )

I wasn’t locked in my house rob , I was working if you remember when you were getting paid to sit at home ■■■■■■ up ( furloughed ) , I just followed the advice given by my doctors / consultants / daughter which I was at risk so wore a mask at all times & disenfected hands etc , had all the jabs etc
As for let’s all forget , you might , I might , but a lot won’t forget his behaviour

As I said mate,.I wasn’t having a pop at you,.I appreciate you have health issues,.and maybe if I was the same I’d have took it all a bit more seriously,…especially towards the latter days of it when I just got totally ■■■■■■ off with it all and thought . ‘‘Hey ho, if I get it, ■■■■ it , I get it’’.
(Incidentally I did catch it a month or so ago and felt like utter sh,.and still don’t feel fully 100% yet, but that’s life and the chances I took)

As for getting ■■■■■■■■ not all the time mate, (just most :smiley: sat in the garden bar in the sun) but the way I saw it, rightly or wrongly, was if somebody is daft enough to give me 75% of my wage to sit on my arse,.I’m up for it,.I ain’t ashamed nor embarrased I’ve paid a hell of a lot into the system over the years …and certainly more than the home grown habitual parasite scroungers, and non indigenous contingent who are catered for who have paid the thick end of f/all into it…so my conscience is crystal.
If that makes me non pc on one hand, guilty as charged, if it looks like I’m racist so be it, but I’m safe in the knowledge that I simply AINT.
Anybody who did not take up the offer of furlough may arguably be more honourable than me, that is up to them, …tbh I don’t give a ■■■■,.
I’ve always been a cynic and a realist, and tend to look after no1, my own and my friends, maybe on reflection selfish, but it’s what I do and it’s worked for me so far in life as a reaction to knock backs.

And to get back on thread, I’ve more important and relevant stuff in life to bother my arse about than Boris’s alleged social life :unamused: … could not give a rat’s ■■■ if he partied like it’s 1999

dozy:
he’ll pay at the ballot box that’s for sure , if they don’t kick him out first

It’s obvious that Bozo is a globalist puppet and closet LibDem and the best leader that the LibDems have ever had.Therefore he and his LibCon rabble actually wants a LabCon coalition to get in to hand the country over to Agenda 30 .Be careful what you wish for.

dozy:

ROG:
If BJ was to go then who would you like to replace him from the tory party :question:

I cannot think of anyone I would like to see as PM instead of BJ and I certainly do not want Labour with another 10 years of austerity once they have finished :exclamation:

Amber Rudd

Nothing short of an IDS and Farage led coalition will stop the country being flushed down the toilet by the LibLabCons and Rudd is one of em.

Boris continues to get his head banged against the wall by the Left over this issue, but they are all missing a trick here:

As someone who voted for Boris to “Get Brexit Done” at the last election, I’ll just add that I’m one of those who doesn’t give a toss about “PartyGate” at all.

What I DO care about however - is the way that Boris has pandered to the Green agenda since winning the election, including picking a very expensive “■■■■ Aid” fight with Russia, rather than buy cheap gas from the nuclear superpower instead, and ease our current entirely-man-made “Cost of Living Crisis” we are now in.

5 Billion to Ukraine eh?

Sunak then giving billions more out like Corbyn on Steroids?

NEITHER of those however - is going to stop me voting against the Tories at the next election.
In fact, it is those two very un-conservative policy roll-outs that will likely prevent me ever voting Conservative again, as it stands.

Labour - If you want to be elected - start courting me for my vote then!!!

Stop all this piffling around on ■■■■■■■■, and start coming up with some policy roll-outs of your OWN, rather than “Vote for us, because we’re not Boris” stance they seem to have right now.

What, for instance - has Keir Starmer done that could be compared to Blair’s “Drop Clause Four” moment??

“If elected, I’ll complete Brexit where Boris seem to have stalled it. I won’t roll it back, backwalk it, or soften it in any way”

“If elected, I’ll continue with Sunak’s spending plans, but will double and widen the windfall taxes to pay for it”.

“If elected, I’ll pull the plug on wasting our money abroad, when charity begins at home”.

That last would-be pledge - would be the clincher for getting ME over to Labour!
(Deepness of red in text - denotes my estimates on how far towards Labour this country would swing with such announcements from Keir Starmer)

So how about it Lefties? Rather than red-rosetted bods knocking on my door with Momentum stooge sidekick jibing in “We don’t want this guy’s vote - he voted UKIP in 2015 and we consider him unwanted scum” which is what I got during the 2017 campaign, when I was warming to the notion of voting for Corbyn to give Theresa May the drubbing she ended up getting anyways - without any help from MY vote…

UKIP got 4m votes in 2015. In 2017 that vote collapsed to 500,000. Corbyn’s vote meanwhile, came in at over 3m more than expected of him… I don’t think that was a coincidence there!!

If you don’t win my vote, then you shan’t have it, and there’s no way you can ever be more than a coalition with the SNP without it. The SNP danger in return, will put off the anti-nationalists in this country, not to mention the Right side of the Libdem voters - who are not going to be coming back left for THAT liability, neither!

dozy:

ROG:
If BJ was to go then who would you like to replace him from the tory party :question:

I cannot think of anyone I would like to see as PM instead of BJ and I certainly do not want Labour with another 10 years of austerity once they have finished :exclamation:

Amber Rudd

Matt Hancock., not only despite the fact he was caught shagging his PA on the stairs, but because of that…I like his style. :sunglasses: :smiley:
Or Esther McVey, if only for the reason she’s hot.

Another serious political comment brought to you from Rob. :sunglasses:
What do ya reck Franglais?
(though tbh was going to suggest Alan Shearer but I thought I’d make an effort for you… :laughing: )

Got my serious head on this time. :smiley:

Well ‘‘they’’ (and at least one on here) have got their own way, Boris faces a confidence vote tonight,…and wtf for?
Answer…He had a few drinks which was construed as a party…the majority of people saying…
‘‘Well so ■■■■ what’’. :unamused:
Well apart from the remainer contingent …all part if the plot maybe??,
Hidden agenda once again maybe ■■

As for it being a secret ballot, if any of these ■■■■ s had any honour or integrity they would be almost boasting that they are voting against him, ok, one or two have, but as usual the majority of them are more intent on keeping their fat snouts in the trough.
They are more grasses and weasels in politics than there are in road haulage it would appear. :smiley:

A classic case of ‘Be careful what you wish for’'.
Can none of these clowns see that the fact that '‘The Labour Party champion of the working classes’, the millionaire ex QC Starmer is the most vocal on all this, does that not tell you he sees Johnson as a threat?
If he’s as incompetent and so much of a clown that Starner states, would it not be in his party’s interest to remain the leader ■■
I think a few people should open their eyes.,
I only hope this plot fails, if only to shut a few ■■■■ s up.

robroy:
Well apart from the remainer contingent …all part if the plot maybe??,
Hidden agenda once again maybe ■■

If anyone wanted a real Brexit the party that took us in let alone closet LibDem Boris was never going to deliver it.
Cant understand anyone preferring the London Muppet over IDS or David Davis let alone Gerard Batten led UKIP in that regard.
The hidden agenda is the plan that his crony Cameron gave him to deliberately sabotage the country to the benefit of their LibDem allies and globalists’ like Macron and Biden.Just like Tharesa May needlessly calling and throwing the 2017 ‘election’.
As Juddian said the globalist puppets have won and the party of Heath to Cameron will never change in that regard.
A LabLib administration intending to finish agenda 30 is now a formality with the help of Boris’ false flag antics clearly intended to hand them the initiative.
What is certain is that we won’t see an IDS and Davis led administration that we need come out of it.

robroy:
Got my serious head on this time. :smiley:

Well ‘‘they’’ (and at least one on here) have got their own way, Boris faces a confidence vote tonight,…and wtf for?
Answer…He had a few drinks which was construed as a party…the majority of people saying…
‘‘Well so [zb] what’’. :unamused:
Well apart from the remainer contingent …all part if the plot maybe??,
Hidden agenda once again maybe ■■

As for it being a secret ballot, if any of these [zb] s had any honour or integrity they would be almost boasting that they are voting against him, ok, one or two have, but as usual the majority of them are more intent on keeping their fat snouts in the trough.
They are more grasses and weasels in politics than there are in road haulage it would appear. :smiley:

A classic case of ‘Be careful what you wish for’'.
Can none of these clowns see that the fact that '‘The Labour Party champion of the working classes’, the millionaire ex QC Starmer is the most vocal on all this, does that not tell you he sees Johnson as a threat?
If he’s as incompetent and so much of a clown that Starner states, would it not be in his party’s interest to remain the leader ■■
I think a few people should open their eyes.,
I only hope this plot fails, if only to shut a few [zb] s up.

According to “The Times” 70% of people think Johnson was not honest about parties.
thetimes.co.uk/article/bori … -q00bdr2x7
A “YouGov” poll in April found 57% thought Johnson should resign and only 30% thought he should remain.
yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/ar … nak-resign

So, where does

robroy:
the majority of people saying…
‘‘Well so [zb] what’’.

come from?

It isn`t in my book about some having a drink.

robroy:
He had a few drinks which was construed as a party.

It was about him breaking laws which he made, and he publicised, and he said we should all follow.

It is about him breaking, repeatedly, his own,ministerial code.

robroy:
Well apart from the remainer contingent …all part if the plot maybe??,
Hidden agenda once again maybe ■■

Do you get your tin-foil hat from the same shop as Carryfast?

robroy:
As for it being a secret ballot, if any of these [zb] s had any honour or integrity they would be almost boasting that they are voting against him, ok, one or two have, but as usual the majority of them are more intent on keeping their fat snouts in the trough

Doubtless those incompetent and docile ministers he has chosen for his cabinet wont be influenced at all will they? They wont be swayed by wanting to stay in post? Most wouldnt get a job under a competent leader who isnt afraid of any free speech in the Government.
Do you think that any of them voting for the good of the country, and against the misrule of Johnson, wouldn`t be treated badly if he survived?
Loads of Tories talking about “party unity” etc. Putting personal gain and party loyalty before any idea at all of “right or wrong” or even getting a competent leader for the country.
Disgusting how Johnson is dragging even the sensible Tories down with him.

robroy:
Can none of these clowns see that the fact that '‘The Labour Party champion of the working classes’, the millionaire ex QC Starmer is the most vocal on all this, does that not tell you he sees Johnson as a threat?

Dunno about Starmer, but I see Johnson as an ongoing threat to this country. A proven serial liar, who actively talks about breaking international treaties. Even those treaties he made and he signed very recently. Someone who is dragging the whole country down to his level.
Starmer: Knighted for his services by Tory, David Cameron PM.
Johnson: Sacked for telling lies as a journalist. Sacked for telling lies as minister.
Supported Patel when she broke ministerial code. Very suspect financing of flat redecoration.

robroy:
If he’s as incompetent and so much of a clown that Starner states, would it not be in his party’s interest to remain the leader ■■

Yes, it might get more votes for Labour in the next election if Johnson stays on and all those who support him are tainted with the same brush.
Fortunately Starmer isn`t so obsessed with clinging on to personal power as “Big Dog” is.