Submitting tachos for non-working days

I’m at a place now where the phrase ‘weekend work’ :open_mouth: would send a shiver through all the lads’ spines and see them peggin’ it over the horizon never to be seen again.

For this reason I’ve been asked to submit tachos for the weekend even though I don’t do nowt from Friday night through to Monday night.

Just wondering what the correct procedure for this is :question:

I use ‘SOD’ and ‘EOD’ and instead of ‘EOD’ at the end of Friday nights shift would put ‘SWR’ and at the start of shift on Monday I would put ‘EWR’ :question:

On the back I would write my name and the date. Do you need to put start/finish location :question:

Do you have to write manually a line through rest on the back of the chart for the full 24 hrs or can you simply write ‘Rest Day’ across it :question:

As there is no trace can you write everything on the front of the chart anyway :question:

Questions, questions. :confused:

Saxon786:
For this reason I’ve been asked to submit tachos for the weekend even though I don’t do nowt from Friday night through to Monday night.

We’ve speculated on this before and it may well be to do with the fact that charts MAY be used to record Working Time, or, in this case, Non-working time.

Just wondering what the correct procedure for this is :question:

I don’t think there is one

On the back I would write my name and the date. Do you need to put start/finish location :question:

I can’t see any reason why it would be necessary. Previous and following charts would identify the location.

Do you have to write manually a line through rest on the back of the chart for the full 24 hrs or can you simply write ‘Rest Day’ across it :question:

Not a legal requirement (under EC Driving Regs), so write whatever you want.

As there is no trace can you write everything on the front of the chart anyway :question:

In the absence of a ‘trace’ anything written on the front cannot be construed as interferring with the trace.

Questions, questions. :confused:

It’s the only way we learn. :laughing:

There isn’t any legal requirement to hand in blank charts for days you don’t work. Someone’s stringing you along.

On your last tacho of the week write SWR and the time (or draw a line at your finishing time, but don’t interfere with the trace) and then when you come back do the same at your start time but writing EWR instead, obviously. That will suffice. No need to write your name on the back or anything else as your name should be on the front of the tacho if you’re filling them in correctly :smiling_imp: .

Rob K:
your name should be on the front of the tacho if you’re filling them in correctly :smiling_imp: .

Unless like mine its too long and you have to write it on the back to get it all on.

Thanks for that fellas.

Rob, I know you don’t have to hand in charts for days you don’t work. Only in so much ‘knowing’ as I’ve never previously had to do it before wherever I’ve worked.

This is just something that the company has requested and would like to see so it’s no skin off my nose really. S’pose they are trying to be spotlessly clean leaving no stone unturned when the charts go for analysis :question:

But as you say about there being no legal requirement, I’m going to ask them why it is that we have to do it and will post back when I get the answer.

Seems like a waste of paper to me but what do I know. [Not a lot - Ed.]

Saxon786:
Thanks for that fellas.

Rob, I know you don’t have to hand in charts for days you don’t work. Only in so much ‘knowing’ as I’ve never previously had to do it before wherever I’ve worked.

This is just something that the company has requested and would like to see so it’s no skin off my nose really. S’pose they are trying to be spotlessly clean leaving no stone unturned when the charts go for analysis :question:

But as you say about there being no legal requirement, I’m going to ask them why it is that we have to do it and will post back when I get the answer.

Seems like a waste of paper to me but what do I know. [Not a lot - Ed.]

They’ll probably use the country standard excuse and tell you it’s for your …

HEALTH & SAFETY

:unamused:

Seems lile a silly requirement to me, especially if there is a chance of anyone else moving or using the truck :confused:

What is wrong with using the tacho envelopes? They have a space for recording all the times, driving, other work and rest, it is easy to do and makes card management so much easier.

RHA, FTA, and Tachodisc, Digraph all supply them, you can even have them printed with your Company name on them.

A company where i used to work made all the drivers hand in tachos for days not worked but only because all tachos were serial numbered and we where issued seven each week so we had to hand back seven used or not so that all the serial numbers tallied up. which also showed every recorded mile mile for every vehicle

simon

Well I asked the gaffer last night and I’ve almost completely forgotten what he said now :slight_smile:

It’s somert to do with…

a) this 26 weekly average malarkey whereby they can easily tot up and keep track of the hours you’ve worked when working out the average. For instance, I take a week holiday and stick in ONE tacho for the week to say I was on my hols and they add on 48 rather than seeing no tachos from me for that week and then fiddling about checking holiday files and whathaveyou.

b) They are covering their backs whereby I have stuck in a tacho to say I have not worked at the weekend and had my weekly rest. If I then got sprung working elsewhere, well…

So from Fri-Mon I only need to submit ONE tacho to say I’ve taken my weekly rest. On that basis they can then give me 48hrs work the next week or however many hrs it may be with a clean conscience.

Does that make sense :question: :confused:

Saxon786:
Well I asked the gaffer last night and I’ve almost completely forgotten what he said now :slight_smile:

It’s somert to do with…

a) this 26 weekly average malarkey whereby they can easily tot up and keep track of the hours you’ve worked when working out the average. For instance, I take a week holiday and stick in ONE tacho for the week to say I was on my hols and they add on 48 rather than seeing no tachos from me for that week and then fiddling about checking holiday files and whathaveyou.

b) They are covering their backs whereby I have stuck in a tacho to say I have not worked at the weekend and had my weekly rest. If I then got sprung working elsewhere, well…

So from Fri-Mon I only need to submit ONE tacho to say I’ve taken my weekly rest. On that basis they can then give me 48hrs work the next week or however many hrs it may be with a clean conscience.

Does that make sense :question: :confused:

Yes, but no. :confused: They’re just making extra work for the driver’s for no good reason. There’s no legal requirement for you to do this as driver and if it doesn’t state that you must do this in your contract of employment then you can tell them to swivel and do it themselves. :unamused: