Just learned a few quick lessons pulling fridges around the uk and benelux.The deal was 77p per kilometre and you had to fill the fridge when dropping a loaded trailer.This is all well and good providing that the trailer you are picking up has been topped up with red.3/4 full was the norm and any arguments fell on deaf ears.But the biggest problem was that there kilometres must be shorter than mine as in the first two weeks they managed to shave 150 quid of my invoice 
Beware boys the yellow peril are still out there looking for subbies
how can you make any money?
thatās about Ā£1.23 per mile.
Who is the āYellow Perilā ?.
Ex Haulier:
Who is the āYellow Perilā ?.
I was thinking Ferrymasters
Is it the company with a depot just outside Dunkirk ferry terminal? Canāt think of the name now. As for thm having shorter Kms that seems to be standard. I work for LKW walter and almost always lose kms but some of that is my preference to use national roads in france instead of autoroutes.
Replying to Limeyphil and the comment of 1.20 a mileā.If you know of any worthwhile work paying much more than 120 a mile at the moment drop me a line?.Yes the outfit I am on about is the one right outside the terminal at Dunkirk and they promise 2900 to 3300 kms a week.If you achieve said kilometres a week and they pay true kilometres then along with purchasing diesel in the right places money can be made.I know the job is not what it was years ago,But you take them at face value and hope they stick to the agreement you both made.This outfit managed to knock kms off straight line runs.Anyhow the work itself was good;clean and no hanging about,But i would be very wary if approached again.
I the kms lost on what kms you actually did or the computed kms just remember if the truck wound up the legal limit it will show more kms than have actually been traveled
ALIX776 My vehicles on a analogue tacho.Is that what you mean.We are talking large differences in kms here.The first 9 days trading with them resulted in a difference of 200 kms.
miles must be" as the crow flies" ?
sammy1960:
ALIX776 My vehicles on a analogue tacho.Is that what you mean.We are talking large differences in kms here.The first 9 days trading with them resulted in a difference of 200 kms.
9 days and a total of 200kms? so thats about 21kms a day so if your truck is doing 88kph but your tacho shows 90kph then you are doing about 18kms a day less thereās your loss.
200km over 9 days isnāt a large difference is it? depends on your routes compared to theirs maybe someone set up their computer to take shortest route and you use fastest or most sensible
21kms in a day doesnt seem to bad to lose, Ive spent more than that looking for an address to tip before now iām sure! Thatās Ā£14 a day right? A hard cherry to bite at the end of the week I know but it could be a lot lot worse!
The system used by this firm is called Navision(I think).Its obviously geared up to give shortest routes.Those of us in the know realise that it doesnt work like this in the real world.B roads and roads governed by traffic restrictions are not considered therefore to carry on would be considered as financial suicide.The point I have tried to make,is if this haulier had been upfront and straight.A reasonable return could have been expected.To lose 150 over 9 days would propably result in lost revenue in the region of 5000 plus over 12 months?.Wisbech to Dover in my experience is pretty straightforward.March.Huntingdon M11.M2 A2 They could shave 35 km of that journey alone?How they did it I dont know,But I didnt hang about long enough to find out?Theres nothing wrong with my tacho(just been calibrated) and to prove a point AA ROADPLANNER couldnt come anywhere near there figures. 
Once bitten twice shy.PS weve all buggered up in the past looking for drops etc.these people knocked me back on EVERY job,absolute straight line jobs e.g(A to B).That is what was so galling.
sammy1960:
The system used by this firm is called Navision(I think).Its obviously geared up to give shortest routes.Those of us in the know realise that it doesnt work like this in the real world.B roads and roads governed by traffic restrictions are not considered therefore to carry on would be considered as financial suicide.The point I have tried to make,is if this haulier had been upfront and straight.A reasonable return could have been expected.To lose 150 over 9 days would propably result in lost revenue in the region of 5000 plus over 12 months?.Wisbech to Dover in my experience is pretty straightforward.March.Huntingdon M11.M2 A2 They could shave 35 km of that journey alone?How they did it I dont know,But I didnt hang about long enough to find out?Theres nothing wrong with my tacho(just been calibrated) and to prove a point AA ROADPLANNER couldnt come anywhere near there figures.
Mate, your living in cloud cuckoo land. Get real.
Not cloud cuckoo land pilgrim.Just warning fellow hauliers to beware of an unscrupulous operator out there whos on the lookout for subbies.When you take advice you usually stay one step ahead in this game.When you dont you normally end up as an ex haulier?
2900-3300km a week? I do 2500-2900km a week in the UK and my truck is slowā¦
Thanks for the warning on that one sammy, was considering there dealā¦ as you say one step ahead lol!!