Forgive me regardin this subject but I have no experience of strikes and pickets as I’ve never in my working career since leaving school 14 years ago had any dealings with strikes. (yes I am a young blood in the game )
I keep hearing humblings of strikes etc and “if” I happen to come across one on the road or at my place of work I don’t know how to react to the event. If at work trouble is I would be between a rock and a hard place as I could do with ££ to pay the bills and mortgage so any increase in hard times in wages would be great. But not so great if I lose a days pay (on 12 hour day contract)…
If it;s your place of work, then it’s up to you - remember though that with no support a strike is dead in the water for everyone. If you are up the road - ring your boss. If you feel in any sort of danger, then don’t cross. The boss will be less than impressed if his wagon gets damaged…
Depends on the strike? If it was an official union picket line then I wouldn’t cross but if it’s unofficial without union backing then I would of crossed.
There are some places where the staff are unrealistic with their demands, I.E wanting excessive wage increases, dont we all, but then again the company could be on it’s arse and barely surviving and they have shown the unions the state of affairs and the workers have still walked out despite the unions advising against it.
At the end of the day it’s your decision, if you aint happy then speak to your boss and see what he says, he might support you then again he might not so its your choice.
Nobody owes you a job. You get one by working hard and having the skills to do it (in theory)
When you join a company you accept their terms and conditions, if you don’t like them you don’t accept the job do you?
If you find that the terms and conditions are going to change, then you find another job.
The company owes you nothing, the world owes you nothing, if you don’t like the job then get another one, sitting around a flaming oil drum whinging that you’re hard done by means, in my opinion, you’re too much of a lazy git to go get yourself another job where you do like the terms and conditions.
If there’s going to be any phone call between me and the boss about crossing a picket line it will only be “Boss I’m going to try cross this picket line, you if I spend 10 minutes extra at the end of the shift cleaning a bunch of commie whinging ■■■■■■■ out of the bumper?”
If he says no then I guess the load goes back.
A picket line is just a yard barrier that squishes easier.
Coffeeholic:
I’d cross a picket line without a second thought, and have done. I’m sure the main reason I would do it will be along on this thread at some point.
At least thats one honourable thing stobart drivers done was decline the tesco livi work even though they where getting a load of incentives. But they found their vultchers in the end with yuill and dodds.
Scarab:
Nobody owes you a job. You get one by working hard and having the skills to do it (in theory)
When you join a company you accept their terms and conditions, if you don’t like them you don’t accept the job do you?
If you find that the terms and conditions are going to change, then you find another job.
The company owes you nothing, the world owes you nothing, if you don’t like the job then get another one, sitting around a flaming oil drum whinging that you’re hard done by means, in my opinion, you’re too much of a lazy git to go get yourself another job where you do like the terms and conditions.
If there’s going to be any phone call between me and the boss about crossing a picket line it will only be “Boss I’m going to try cross this picket line, you if I spend 10 minutes extra at the end of the shift cleaning a bunch of commie whinging ■■■■■■■ out of the bumper?”
If he says no then I guess the load goes back.
A picket line is just a yard barrier that squishes easier.
If everyone thought as you did we’d all be on £6.08 p/h, companies need that threat to keep them in check so they dont take advantage and they would.
I’ll admit strike action is over used in some areas like BA, Royal mail but without that threat companies would ■■■■ over the little guy.
merc0447:
If everyone thought as you did we’d all be on £6.08 p/h, companies need that threat to keep them in check so they dont take advantage and they would.
I’ll admit strike action is over used in some areas like BA, Royal mail but without that threat companies would ■■■■ over the little guy.
Strike action or unions have never helped the road haulage industry or drivers, they have been involved and used that is all.
merc0447:
At least thats one honourable thing stobart drivers done was decline the tesco livi work even though they where getting a load of incentives. But they found their vultchers in the end with yuill and dodds.
Yuill and dodds broke the miners strike but I never saw them at tesco livingston. It was a hotchpotch of subbies from all over the country. I was one of them, laughing as well cos I remember those nobs when I was a newbie and they gave it the large like they were summink special, me just a lad. How I laughed ho ho ho. And the nobs were bribed back by a 1 off payment off £200, pennies to what they were gonna be losing under new contract. Some say £100pw.
Will always be happy to break a strike cos its us and them. Them normaly being public sector workers. 1 rule for 1, 1 rule for all it should be. I’ve never had chance to strike and thats not fair so ■■■ em.
merc0447:
If everyone thought as you did we’d all be on £6.08 p/h, companies need that threat to keep them in check so they dont take advantage and they would.
I’ll admit strike action is over used in some areas like BA, Royal mail but without that threat companies would ■■■■ over the little guy.
That’s just not true though is it?
In truth, if every time a company [ZB]ed all over its drivers, they upped and left to somewhere better, they’d think hard about doing it next time.
Having a few meetings with union officials with tea and biscuits is far less hassle than having to recruit a new staff base.
IF they can recruit for just over 6 quid an hour then thats because people will work for it, not because the unions didn’t have a large enough member base…
Me? I won’t work for it, I’ll go somewhere with decent pay and holidays, till then I’ll keep working hard and stay loyal to the company (or companies) who pay my mortgage and keeps my kid in a good school.
Scarab:
till then I’ll keep working hard and stay loyal to the company (or companies) who pay my mortgage and keeps my kid in a good school.
Until they go bust, lay off, or sack you at the drop of a hat
Never ever think your in a safe job, anything can happen out on the road, even if its not your fault the company might just decide the publicity is not worth keeping you there.
It just goes to show how many drivers are prepared to back each other up then they come on here whinging about bad rates etc, I’m pleased I’m out of it
Scarab:
till then I’ll keep working hard and stay loyal to the company (or companies) who pay my mortgage and keeps my kid in a good school.
Until they go bust, lay off, or sack you at the drop of a hat
Never ever think your in a safe job, anything can happen out on the road, even if its not your fault the company might just decide the publicity is not worth keeping you there.
It just goes to show how many drivers are prepared to back each other up then they come on here whinging about bad rates etc, I’m pleased I’m out of it
I have just been reading about your striking countrymen Davey, seems they went back to work early, probably cannot get them to stick together.
Have they found any of those 100 missing railway carriages yet?
merc0447:
If everyone thought as you did we’d all be on £6.08 p/h, companies need that threat to keep them in check so they dont take advantage and they would.
I’ll admit strike action is over used in some areas like BA, Royal mail but without that threat companies would ■■■■ over the little guy.
Strike action or unions have never helped the road haulage industry or drivers, they have been involved and used that is all.
Wheel Nut:
I have just been reading about your striking countrymen Davey, seems they went back to work early, probably cannot get them to stick together.
Have they found any of those 100 missing railway carriages yet?
Bloody Hell Wheel Nut your better informed than me Lol
Never heard of any strikes here but I know the railway carriages were sold for 3 Million BGN if I think rightly as it was reported last week Lol
Siemens wants all their trains back though as last months HP payment of 180,000 BGN was missed Lol
Why should I stop when there is a picket line? If I wanted to strike, I would be there with them. If I am not, obviously I am not interested in striking but working, so just let me do my work and keep striking if you wish to.
I am in the mind to cross the line - as they ain’t going to be paying my mortgage or listen when the wolf comes to the door. (how long the strike last if there is ones guess)
Question - thinking of the rules, is a strike allow to happen when its at a customers property? Ie… Transport firm operating out of a customer depot? for example Joe Bloggs Transport ltd working out of Supermarket x’s depot/land?
Coffeeholic:
I’d cross a picket line without a second thought, and have done. I’m sure the main reason I would do it will be along on this thread at some point.
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