We do some work for a company. Is metal cabinet things banded onto pallets. 1st time I went I threw straps over as solid metal cabinets. Forkie said no that’s wrong. Had words manager came out. Said need be strapped to our way.
Which is place end of ■■■■■■■■ u bolt thing where they go then over the top. Then thread the strap through the u bolt. Pulling it tight so strap is then against side of pallet pulled to other end of pallet ratheched tight . So both ends of strap are on same side. . I’ll try take pic next time.
To me it doesn’t look safe .Yes they got there intact. But surely it’s upto the driver how he straps his load. Not some forkie and manager who dont have a clue.
edd1974:
We do some work for a company. Is metal cabinet things banded onto pallets. 1st time I went I threw straps over as solid metal cabinets. Forkie said no that’s wrong. Had words manager came out. Said need be strapped to our way.
Which is place end of ■■■■■■■■ u bolt thing where they go then over the top. Then thread the strap through the u bolt. Pulling it tight so strap is then against side of pallet pulled to other end of pallet ratheched tight . So both ends of strap are on same side. . I’ll try take pic next time.
To me it doesn’t look safe .Yes they got there intact. But surely it’s upto the driver how he straps his load. Not some forkie and manager who dont have a clue.
Who was driving the truck ?
Oh sorry you , tell them it’s your way or take them back off !
It’s your licence if they shift
edd1974:
We do some work for a company. Is metal cabinet things banded onto pallets. 1st time I went I threw straps over as solid metal cabinets. Forkie said no that’s wrong. Had words manager came out. Said need be strapped to our way.
Which is place end of ■■■■■■■■ u bolt thing where they go then over the top. Then thread the strap through the u bolt. Pulling it tight so strap is then against side of pallet pulled to other end of pallet ratheched tight . So both ends of strap are on same side. . I’ll try take pic next time.
To me it doesn’t look safe .Yes they got there intact. But surely it’s upto the driver how he straps his load. Not some forkie and manager who dont have a clue.
Of course it is up to the driver and the driver should know how to strap a load but in fairness some forkies and managers could know as well and do have a clue.
In your case it sounds like the driver did not have a clue.
the art of driving is to be prepared to learn, it might not look right to you at first but they might have had problems in the past and cured it by trial and error choosing their way as the best option, there is nothing wrong in re strapping if your not satisfied but you seem to think it was ok to carry on, a photo might have given us a better idea of the problem, every day is a school day you never stop learning, and I have met some young lads that have shown me a better way than I knew, look and learn even if you learn their way is not better as you have still learnt something,
hotel magnum:
the art of driving is to be prepared to learn, it might not look right to you at first but they might have had problems in the past and cured it by trial and error choosing their way as the best option, there is nothing wrong in re strapping if your not satisfied but you seem to think it was ok to carry on, a photo might have given us a better idea of the problem, every day is a school day you never stop learning, and I have met some young lads that have shown me a better way than I knew, look and learn even if you learn their way is not better as you have still learnt something,
As Thomas Eddison famously said. Sometimes you need to know how NOT to make a lightbulb.
Piccies would help a lot.
Maybe they were wanting the loads strapped by strong points on the frame rather than over thin sheet metal? Was it lifting points being used for straps? With straps on both sides pulling both ways it could be held securely.
Not a clear description of load really.
Edit. If a sender wants a load secured in a particular way ask for an explanation of why. Don’t ignore them nor obey blindly. As already said learn.
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Must agree with some answers, yes its the drivers responsibility…if something happens…no good saying a bloke down the road told me to do it this way cos vosa will ask if theyre gonna pay the fine. On saying that, i have taken advice from managers where i have loaded, and if it looks safe i will go with it…i have however encountered loads where i was told not to strap it…to which i have ignored…and damaged the load…but in my defence…i said they should have packaged it accordingly…knowing straps will be used.
Was loading in france a while back, reels of paper…standing up…there was a guy there supervising…he certainly showed me the way to do it…tbh it was a work of art once i finished…and so safe a hurricane wouldnt have shifted it…
No I know what he means. You basically use one strap to go over the load twice so you hook it on passenger side, throw it over the load, go round a rope hook or loop on the other side, throw it back over to passenger side, put a ratchet on and tighten up.
Not proper way to do it and reserved for when you absolutely have no choice, i.e you’re a strap short.
Jakethesnake, I suggest you go on a load securing course if you think it was the driver who didn’t have a clue.
truckyboy:
Was loading in france a while back, reels of paper…standing up…there was a guy there supervising…he certainly showed me the way to do it…tbh it was a work of art once i finished…and so safe a hurricane wouldnt have shifted it…
That’ll be the way where you have straps wrapping it round the lower half front and back and same again at the top? Right faff to do but it ain’t shifting.
However often just bunging a couple of straps over and cracking on is not the best option. This customer in question will have no doubt discussed safely securing their goods in a certain way with other drivers so hopefully what they come up with will be more than sufficient, picture needed though.
In the end a drivers primary duty is road/load safety everything else is just foreplay.
There will always be a balancing act between load integrity Vs load security, overtime we learn certain tricks of the trade that help us crack on.
If in doubt a mutual respectful discussion with the customer will ensure everyone’s happy. That’s providing it isn’t a type of customer that’s sees drivers as an unavoidable nuisance.
Edit: This post is a little more mature than my normal ones so would just like to say boobies and front bottoms. Feel better now.
most places in Germany have pictures of how it should be done and how many straps are needed when you pick up paperwork for your load, the forkie loads it then takes pictures of the load strapped sends them to office who check and if not satisfied you don’t move until they are, as in German law forkie and the despatching company are liable as well as driver.
I like Germany everything is black and right no grey areas, did you like what I did there,
hotel magnum:
most places in Germany have pictures of how it should be done and how many straps are needed when you pick up paperwork for your load, the forkie loads it then takes pictures of the load strapped sends them to office who check and if not satisfied you don’t move until they are, as in German law forkie and the despatching company are liable as well as driver.
I like Germany everything is black and right no grey areas, did you like what I did there,
Best way to describe it is hook one end ■■■■■■■■ drivers side. Strap goes over metal cabinet .then thread strap through hook on passenger side .pull strap to drivers side so it’s running along bottom of the pallet put ratchet on drivers side and tighten. .
Your right conor…was excellent and the guy was so helpful…apparently that was his job to make sure the reels were secured before a load left… When i was loading, i thought, how on earth can i get the straps over those…but he had a special gadget…that you feed the strap through…was very impressed.
