Crikey.
Even worse than not securing your load is doing this youtube.com/watch?v=Ekar5vYyIQY
animal:
A well boss moment
Not when you’re dead.
Seen a driver in chipboard factory ROPING a load,i said to him have you not got any straps,he says i never strap these loads.This was at chirk about 1996,dont think they let you out without straps these days,but who in their right minds would just put ropes on c/board?
regards dave.
How do you think we managed before straps came along,Roped every hook and drive accordingly,Result nae bother.eddie.
erfguy:
How do you think we managed before straps came along,Roped every hook and drive accordingly,Result nae bother.eddie.
Yes agreed,but about the time im on about there was[still is i think]just south of whitchurch on the a49 were contracted to haul out of chirk with flats and they had chains welded, to chassis of trls.
regards dave.
dafdave:
erfguy:
How do you think we managed before straps came along,Roped every hook and drive accordingly,Result nae bother.eddie.Yes agreed,but about the time im on about there was[still is i think]just south of whitchurch on the a49 were contracted to haul out of chirk with flats and they had chains welded, to chassis of trls.
regards dave.
IMO there are two areas in this “modern” era of road transport(or whatever the buzzword for the job is now.)that cause 99% of accidents where the load is thrown off 1)Total lack of experience of the securing of any type of load which is out of the ordinary.2) Speed or driving too fast without any thought of the type of load thats on the trailer.I do acknowledge that there were always mishaps in the pre Tautliner days but just imagine the carnage nowadays if the majority of loads had to return to being sheeted and roped!!! Merry Christmas,Bewick.
Bewick:
dafdave:
erfguy:
How do you think we managed before straps came along,Roped every hook and drive accordingly,Result nae bother.eddie.Yes agreed,but about the time im on about there was[still is i think]just south of whitchurch on the a49 were contracted to haul out of chirk with flats and they had chains welded, to chassis of trls.
regards dave.IMO there are two areas in this “modern” era of road transport(or whatever the buzzword for the job is now.)that cause 99% of accidents where the load is thrown off 1)Total lack of experience of the securing of any type of load which is out of the ordinary.2) Speed or driving too fast without any thought of the type of load thats on the trailer.I do acknowledge that there were always mishaps in the pre Tautliner days but just imagine the carnage nowadays if the majority of loads had to return to being sheeted and roped!!! Merry Christmas,Bewick.
I think that hits the nail on the head.
Fully agree with you all,in my 30+yrs on the job i learned the trade on flats like you all.Without blowing my own trumpet too much ide like ,to think i could rope, and sheet with the best and took pride in it.The point i was trying to get across in my original post was at the time 70s straps were the best option and should have been used.
regards dave.
dafdave:
Seen a driver in chipboard factory ROPING a load,i said to him have you not got any straps,he says i never strap these loads.This was at chirk about 1996,dont think they let you out without straps these days,but who in their right minds would just put ropes on c/board?
regards dave.
i’ve seen something similar but with M.D.F … lets just say he did’nt even get through the gate with it … 
what a mess …
bowser:
dafdave:
Seen a driver in chipboard factory ROPING a load,i said to him have you not got any straps,he says i never strap these loads.This was at chirk about 1996,dont think they let you out without straps these days,but who in their right minds would just put ropes on c/board?
regards dave.i’ve seen something similar but with M.D.F … lets just say he did’nt even get through the gate with it …
DOOOOHHHHHH,bowser if you look at my original post i say im in factory at chirk,what do they make? M,D,F. Senilitys terrible,thats why i was going on about only roping it. the stuffs deadly.
regards dave.
Bewick:
dafdave:
erfguy:
How do you think we managed before straps came along,Roped every hook and drive accordingly,Result nae bother.eddie.Yes agreed,but about the time im on about there was[still is i think]just south of whitchurch on the a49 were contracted to haul out of chirk with flats and they had chains welded, to chassis of trls.
regards dave.IMO there are two areas in this “modern” era of road transport(or whatever the buzzword for the job is now.)that cause 99% of accidents where the load is thrown off 1)Total lack of experience of the securing of any type of load which is out of the ordinary.2) Speed or driving too fast without any thought of the type of load thats on the trailer.I do acknowledge that there were always mishaps in the pre Tautliner days but just imagine the carnage nowadays if the majority of loads had to return to being sheeted and roped!!! Merry Christmas,Bewick.
Not to mention the lamentable lack of training in load security.
They teach you how to pass your HGV test. Great. Do they teach you how to hitch and unhitch a trailer? Or to strap or rope things down? Sheeting?
I don’t know if things have changed now, but I took my HGV test in the mid 80s, and the company I took my lessons and test with - Kent Metro - had an optional roping, sheeting, curtainsider, strapping and chaining course. Few took it.
This was on top of the experience of roping and sheeting (and swapping trailers) I had as a lad with Len Valsler.
The problem is that it’s all to0 easy to criticise the drivers, but if transport companies don’t train drivers in how to secure loads the only way they will learn is by watching or asking for help from others, or watching the load fall off the side.
For the record, I never lost a load. I always knew where it was…
Im my opinion you can never have too many straps on but putting ten on incorrectly is worse than one done properly. And just for the record how many drivers out there think that curtains are for retaining the load? As far as im concerned curtains are just weather protection.
jimmi:
Im my opinion you can never have too many straps on but putting ten on incorrectly is worse than one done properly. And just for the record how many drivers out there think that curtains are for retaining the load? As far as im concerned curtains are just weather protection.
Depends on the load really, something light like corn flakes, tissue paper and even white goods are OK as they are bulky but not heavy, but other loads absolutely need independent strapping.