DieselDave
Could you give me a generalised answer to a question.
A transport company transports various Category goods under ADR regs.Two products regulary. UN1133,Cat3 and UN2067,Cat 5.1.These goods are stored at the company premises for varying periods of time from overnight to over the weekend to a few days during the week.
Said premises back on to residential properties,less than 20 yards.
1.Does the company need to be a registered/licensed storage facility?
2.What signage,if any should be displayed?
3.What,if any authorities should be notified on the storage of such goods?
Thanks for any help you may be able to offer
Cliffb
cliffb:
DieselDave
Could you give me a generalised answer to a question.
A transport company transports various Category goods under ADR regs.Two products regulary. UN1133,Cat3 and UN2067,Cat 5.1.These goods are stored at the company premises for varying periods of time from overnight to over the weekend to a few days during the week.
Said premises back on to residential properties,less than 20 yards.
1.Does the company need to be a registered/licensed storage facility?
2.What signage,if any should be displayed?
3.What,if any authorities should be notified on the storage of such goods?
Thanks for any help you may be able to offer
Cliffb
Hi and welcome to TNUK Cliffb, I’m afraid that neither ADR nor the UK Regs cover the storage of the goods you’ve mentioned. Both of those sets of Regs cover the requirements for transport just before, and once the “stuff” is on the vehicle. Therefore, I’m afraid I can’t give you a good answer to the whole of your post.
Generally, a company has to do a fire risk assessment, and if they did that properly, they’d find that any/all Class3 goods must be segregated from any/all goods of Class5.1 in storage.
The same applies during the time that the goods are transported. (That bit is in ADR. )
As for the rest of the storage requirements, signage and the notifying of authorites, I’m sure you can understand my reluctance to engage in guesswork.
I am able to give you the signage (markings) that ADR requires to be placed on the packages or vehicles if you need that. To do that, I’d need to know the size(s) and type(s) of package(s) please. I hope this helps.
cliffb:
DieselDave
Could you give me a generalised answer to a question.
A transport company transports various Category goods under ADR regs.Two products regulary. UN1133,Cat3 and UN2067,Cat 5.1.These goods are stored at the company premises for varying periods of time from overnight to over the weekend to a few days during the week.
Said premises back on to residential properties,less than 20 yards.
1.Does the company need to be a registered/licensed storage facility?
2.What signage,if any should be displayed?
3.What,if any authorities should be notified on the storage of such goods?
Thanks for any help you may be able to offer
Cliffb
I used to work in construction for 20 years (left recently) so i would imagine that COSHH rules would apply upon the premises of which you speak.
I’m not going to tell anyone how to sook eggs, but there should be information-a go go on said packages showing dangers etc…but i reckon COSHH would apply as well as the generic Health & Safety at Work Act 1974.
The company in question would be able to glean any if not all information from their local HSE office.
Dave is spot on about the ADR only applying once ON the vehicle…the man is a mine of info
Not being a specialist in this area as I only have ADR/ HAZ, tanks and packages qualifications etc.
The COSHH regs will definitely come in to use on this one as they also define what and where chemicals can be stored and in which designated way i.e. segregation of different products / drums / cartons etc…
I would say first port of call is the local Fire brigade for advice about signage / recording of what is ACTUALLY stored there etc. as they are the unfortunate ones who might have to enter the building in the case of an emergency .
With reference to the houses nearby I don,t think there are any regs about living accommodation nearby to comply with as long as the area / buildings are fully signed with the appropriate warning signs for the general public emergency services.
Secondly the HSE for advice about storage regs as some chemicals in the same way as when under transport must be segregated (for obvious reasons) e.g. bleach & disinfectant must not be stored together as if mixed they give off POISONOUS AMMONIA gas.
How many home kitchens have BOTH under the kitchen sink in storage?
Thanks for the info given.Much appreciated and very helpful.
Being ADR holder myself I was aware of regs for road transportation but unsure of regs for storage.I will perhaps think twice and then think again before trying to give advice to others.
Great site,very helpful,knowledgeable folk.
Will call again soon
cliffb:
Thanks for the info given.Much appreciated and very helpful.
Being ADR holder myself I was aware of regs for road transportation but unsure of regs for storage. I will perhaps think twice and then think again before trying to give advice to others.
Great site,very helpful,knowledgeable folk.
Will call again soon
Hey, no probs cliffb, just ask.
I’ve been meaning to get the COSHH regs and check how it interfaces with ADR for some time, so thanks for the reminder.
I hope they don’t keep those substances too close together in the warehouse.
cliffb:
I will perhaps think twice and then think again before trying to give advice to others.
I’d say you’ll be fine advising others, but please be careful to stick with what you know from the course.
There are several levels of knowledge.
The course you had was for drivers, but there are other courses for ADR instructor and DGSA.
We’re all still learning, including me.
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I hope they don’t keep those substances too close together in the warehouse.