How do you get set run times for Tescos stores? How do you know how many is in front of you, if the back door man is on his break and whether you have to takes empties back, and if you have are they ■■■■■■■ and ready or does he have to go and get them?
jessicas dad:
Bluenose83:
FileepThat tesco lad doing 43 mph was probably on overtime!!! If it’s anything like mine 33 (euro) an hour I would be doin that speed to!!
I would rather the extra few quid in the bank than drive at 56mph ya [zb]!!!
ffs brownnose not this bloody arguement again.
so you think that driving at 43mph on a motorway for no other reason than stringing the job out for extra overtime is acceptable.
you couldnt make this up
surely you could drive faster, but sit outside the store for an extra 15 minutes, still end up with same extra pennies!
Simon71:
Easy way around lazy drivers draggng the job out, change rotas so that most/all shifts are of roughly equal length, and then put drivers on weekly/monthly salary rather than hourly pay. Hey presto, drivers do their job in 8 hours instead of the 11 they could previously get away with, the trucks are back more quickly, productivity increases and costs go down.It’s not rocket science
That’s pretty much what it was like with my last run. Paid for 9.5 hours, 8 hours normal +1.5 hours OT regardless if we did less than 9.5 and we could do it in 8, or even slightly less, so no point in hanging it out and the vehicle was back in plenty of time for the warehouse to process and the truck to be there for the regular day driver. In the whole time I did it we only went over 9.5 about three times.
Dragging the job out is not on I agree…
But…
if Stobbie’s drivers (and many others) weren’t prepared to work for a bag of rice and a shiny truck, Tesco would have had to deal with the problem by showing the drivers the error of his/her ways rather than sacking/making redundant.
Drivers taking the ■■■■ are definitely not helping the industry.
But neither are drivers who are prepared to work for ■■■■ all…they’re just as bad as they keep dragging the wages down and down…
ady1:
Hay1908:
cliffton 27:
i knew a lad who drove for tesco he was telling when bank holidays were coming they had what the driver called grab a grand week i met him on a stag do he had just been finished as stobarts had just moved in he admitted it was unreal the money they could earn and he knew that he will prob never see that kind of cash again
from what i have heard /read and been told you can see why tessco brought stobarts in it must be a huge saving in the wage bill alone
also i think the tessco lads killed it themselves i heard of them going out doing a drop coming back after 6 hrs or so and refusing to go out with a second local drop if i was being paid that kind of money it would be mouth shut head down and crack on
sometimes we are our own worst enemyI would rather use the terminology that sometimes a minority of people are everyone elses enemy.
It absolutely infuriates me when I see or hear about people doing as per all the examples given on here of individuals dragging work out. They are people who cant see any further than the linings of their own pockets and dont have the intellect to see the bigger picture or what the consequencies can be in the long run for not only themselves but there own work friends/foes. Personnally I compare it to being no different to the people who claim benefits falsely, some may think I’m being harsh, but I dont care, I’m from a work hard, play hard background.
If someone is going to pay you to do a job then do the bloody job to best of your ability, if you dont think your being paid enough or you disagree with the way you are being told to do the job then do something about it or leave the job and look for something else. Basic integrity!!!ive found over the years[and the companies do eventually] that the ones who shout the loudest about how every other driver than them are idle zb, nearly always turn out to be the worst offenders of the lot
I am not going to bite at your obvious dig at my observation of individuals that are willing to lie/cheat/steal off the company or person that they work for. You may quote evidence of your experiences over your years of expereriences but I can assure you that I am more than content in the knowledge that I have done a fair days work for a fair days pay, and if I could add, been recognised for it. Only the individual knows within themselves if they believe that what they are doing is acceptable…
Fileep:
Simon71:
Easy way around lazy drivers draggng the job out, change rotas so that most/all shifts are of roughly equal length, and then put drivers on weekly/monthly salary rather than hourly pay. Hey presto, drivers do their job in 8 hours instead of the 11 they could previously get away with, the trucks are back more quickly, productivity increases and costs go down.It’s not rocket science
Totally agree with the above but for whatever reason tesco have they choose to pay their drivers by the hour! But on the other hand I can understand why firms won’t salary drivers, too many idiots will try and cut corners just to get the job done, accidents will happen! We just need people with a work ethic in the industry!
We’ve got nearly 400 drivers employed on weekly salary, it does work believe me… Yes I don’t doubt that some staff will try to rush around, cut corners etc butthe firm I work for has grown every year for the last 15 years, turnover in 2011 will be roughly three times what it was in 1999.
Why more firms do not adopt weekly/monthly salary for their drivers I will never know. We pay what I would consider a decent weekly wage for a decent weeks work, most day/night drivers probably average no more than 45 hours per week. Very few issues with tacho laws, something else that we don’t need to worry about in addition to wondering what time the drivers will roll back into the yard after trundling up the motorway at 43mph 
Truckulent:
Dragging the job out is not on I agree…But…
if Stobbie’s drivers (and many others) weren’t prepared to work for a bag of rice and a shiny truck, Tesco would have had to deal with the problem by showing the drivers the error of his/her ways rather than sacking/making redundant.
Drivers taking the ■■■■ are definitely not helping the industry.
But neither are drivers who are prepared to work for [zb] all…they’re just as bad as they keep dragging the wages down and down…
And now you blame the same lads who did Tescos work and General Haulage in the same shift! Tesco drivers are lazy ■■■■■! No matter which depot you go to!
Simon71:
ady1:
Brooks81:
Sorry if I missed it but where is this new super depot going to be? Cheerslutterworth
Whatever the rumours are I don’t think that this has been confirmed officially anywhere…? That obviously doesn’t mean that it won’t happen. It does seem rather strange to put out “bad” news about two depots closing before announcing “good” news about this supposed new super depot opening. Rather disingenuous too I feel, and just likely to stir more rumours.
The new chilled depot is being built on the corner plot opposite Nissan on the corner as you turn right to go to ASDA IDC! And it has been officially published in the Stobart Magazine! 
dessy:
Simon71:
ady1:
Brooks81:
Sorry if I missed it but where is this new super depot going to be? Cheerslutterworth
Whatever the rumours are I don’t think that this has been confirmed officially anywhere…? That obviously doesn’t mean that it won’t happen. It does seem rather strange to put out “bad” news about two depots closing before announcing “good” news about this supposed new super depot opening. Rather disingenuous too I feel, and just likely to stir more rumours.
The new chilled depot is being built on the corner plot opposite Nissan on the corner as you turn right to go to ASDA IDC! And it has been officially published in the Stobart Magazine!
told it could be the first of many
globby 480:
holliefabbabe:
(where is pete osborne when you need him )
pete in on his way with the big G on the side 
I heard that Pete Osborne had something to do with the Green Group! Is this correct?
Found this so answered my own question!
Simon71:
Fileep:
Simon71:
Easy way around lazy drivers draggng the job out, change rotas so that most/all shifts are of roughly equal length, and then put drivers on weekly/monthly salary rather than hourly pay. Hey presto, drivers do their job in 8 hours instead of the 11 they could previously get away with, the trucks are back more quickly, productivity increases and costs go down.It’s not rocket science
Totally agree with the above but for whatever reason tesco have they choose to pay their drivers by the hour! But on the other hand I can understand why firms won’t salary drivers, too many idiots will try and cut corners just to get the job done, accidents will happen! We just need people with a work ethic in the industry!
We’ve got nearly 400 drivers employed on weekly salary, it does work believe me… Yes I don’t doubt that some staff will try to rush around, cut corners etc butthe firm I work for has grown every year for the last 15 years, turnover in 2011 will be roughly three times what it was in 1999.
Why more firms do not adopt weekly/monthly salary for their drivers I will never know. We pay what I would consider a decent weekly wage for a decent weeks work, most day/night drivers probably average no more than 45 hours per week. Very few issues with tacho laws, something else that we don’t need to worry about in addition to wondering what time the drivers will roll back into the yard after trundling up the motorway at 43mph
Simon I used to work for a large logistics company who run the transport for a large kitchen manufacturer. We were paid a very good salary of £32500 a year plus free health care, free pension (our 4% contribution was paid by the company) full sick pay, £28 night out money all this for 54 hours a week/108 hours a fortnight. If in week 1 you didnt do your 54 then the difference could be added to the following week but a max of 108 by the end of week 2. If at the end of week 2 you hadnt done your 108 then the slate was wiped clean and you started on week 1 again and so on But you never went over the 108. Some drivers took the pee and averaged the hours down to 10.8 hours a day and would park up either just after 10.8 hours and I have even known some drivers to park up after 9.5 hours if they cant be back at the depot and finished within the 10.8. Nowhere in our contract did it say we where on 10.8 hours a day just an average of 54 a week or 108 a fortnight. As for drivers rushing to get the job done because they where on a salary quite the opposite happened and still does in that drivers would get to a drop and sit around after tipping and deliberately run into traffic jams just to use up their hours. In week 1 you would see drivers take even longer knowing that if they could toss it off and do 65 hours (most of it on the bunk) then in week 2 they would only have 43 hours left for that week. Come thursday night in week 2 they wouldnt have any hours left so would get friday off. This meant that 1 not all deliveries where done and that come most fridays agency drivers where having to be used to do the work that should have been done by the fulltime drivers thus an extra cost to the company.
18 months ago they made 10 drivers redundant and I was one of those that took the voluntary redundancy and although the job was easy and well paid I am glad I did. I’m like Harry and a few others on here that believes in a fair days work for a fair days pay, but as has been said earlier some drivers do take the buscuit and eventually they will spoil a good paid job and what for GREED. I still speak on a daily basis to some of the drivers and most are stiil the same, whinging how hard the job is and they wish they where out of there, trouble is most of them have only ever worked there and if they had to work in the real world of transport they would hand back their licence tomorrow.
So does paying drivers on a salary work…not always as the above shows
Paul
What everyone has to remember is this.
Stobarts is a business.
Their only “Legal” requirement is to make a “Profit” for the “Shareholders”.
From here on in it is a situation of mind over matter.
They don’t care & You dont matter. End of.
Solly:
What everyone has to remember is this.Stobarts is a business.
Their only “Legal” requirement is to make a “Profit” for the “Shareholders”.
From here on in it is a situation of mind over matter.
They don’t care & You dont matter. End of.
Solly mate. you’re new on here so let me just explain something…what you say is spot on but there are many who will disagree. Plenty think that the Stobbies (and other firms, not just Eddie’s) are doing them a favour letting them drive their trucks every day. They are probably the same folk that take pics of their trucks to show their non-trucking friends and family what a ‘big waggon’ they are responsible for…
This is why the big companies get away with treating drivers like ■■■■. Fact is, some drivers would appear to like it…sad but true… 
dessy:
bestbooties:
Also according to this months T&D Stobart is laying off 60 trampers at the Stoke depot.
Reasons being given along with all the other depot closures are,“New systems and planning technology”,yes I believe that also!Apparently! Stobarts want 35 ex-trampers to reapply for their old jobs at Stoke!
And if we if we chat to the same few on Twitter, you will/may also know (others will/may not) that one of those that was made redundant and was then asked to re-apply for his old job, is now working for his old depot via the agency, and has been doing so pretty much since being given the bullet…un ■■■■■■■ believable!!
Bet they don’t show any of this in the new series of T&T’s.
I sometimes think it’s just a big PR stunt before maybe something’s going to go bang.
And they’ve known for sometime too, hence why they’re up to series 3 I think.
Actrosman:
dessy:
bestbooties:
Also according to this months T&D Stobart is laying off 60 trampers at the Stoke depot.
Reasons being given along with all the other depot closures are,“New systems and planning technology”,yes I believe that also!Apparently! Stobarts want 35 ex-trampers to reapply for their old jobs at Stoke!
And if we if we chat to the same few on Twitter, you will/may also know (others will/may not) that one of those that was made redundant and was then asked to re-apply for his old job, is now working for his old depot via the agency, and has been doing so pretty much since being given the bullet…un [zb] believable!!
tol a tramper was made redundant one week out of his depot,and started back the following week tramping out of another depot,commes from his mate whos a genuine lad. does make you wonder
you have to remember that all the so called new drivers of to day have a bit of paper to say pay me stupid money for this bit of paper ,im glad that what i did i was proude of.i did not need a bit of paper to do my job ,ok the pay was not a lot , but i could live with it,10/6 for a night out £25 for a weeks work on a 25 tonner ,hard work but enjoyed every bit of it ,
brakes where s***
power the same
cabs 
and we did what our dads did MADE OUR COUNTRY