Hi
I work in an office and do some part time HGV driving.
One of my colleagues came to me the other day and asked if I could do a driving job for him.
I has bought a 56 tonne traction engine from Kent and it needs to be moved back to Yorkshire.
I can borrow a Scania 3 axle unit which is taxed as PLG and a matching trailer for the job.
As this load will be a STGO can a unit plated as PLG do the work?
Pete
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The Biker:
HiI work in an office and do some part time HGV driving.
One of my colleagues came to me the other day and asked if I could do a driving job for him.
I has bought a 56 tonne traction engine from Kent and it needs to be moved back to Yorkshire.
I can borrow a Scania 3 axle unit which is taxed as PLG and a matching trailer for the job.
As this load will be a STGO can a unit plated as PLG do the work?
Pete
No. Read this:
direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg … 183952.pdf
no offence mate but tax issue aside i dont fancy being on the road with some one who drives part time and works in an office and is suddemly let loose with something approaching 80 tons gross
The Biker:
a Scania 3 axle unit which is taxed as PLG
Huh?
When you say traction engine?
Are you sure as i work rest and play with traction engines and there is no engine in the world that is 56 tonnes the heaviest left in preservation is a fowler Z7 ploughing engine and they are only nudging 30 tonnes 
As someone who has gone up the road at ridiculous weights with Allelys, 80 tonnes is not that heavy but if you are not a regular driver then please leave it to someone else and that is not meant to be patronising 
Is it from Preston steam services ?
exmayor:
When you say traction engine?Are you sure as i work rest and play with traction engines and there is no engine in the world that is 56 tonnes the heaviest left in preservation is a fowler Z7 ploughing engine and they are only nudging 30 tonnes
As someone who has gone up the road at ridiculous weights with Allelys, 80 tonnes is not that heavy but if you are not a regular driver then please leave it to someone else and that is not meant to be patronising
Is it from Preston steam services ?
not being patronising either but don’t some of these road planing men only drive part time?
tim next door drives a 29 tonne jcb and has just got his class one to move it
unless the 56ton’s would be the gross train weight of the entire combination?
Biscuits:
The Biker:
a Scania 3 axle unit which is taxed as PLGHuh?
I believe many owner driver units running to Italy & beyond in the 70’s & 80’s were… allegedly.
Wasn’t there a time not so long ago when 4x2 @ 38T tax was £3500. PLG same vehicle around £100.
VOSA? Unheard of then
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Biscuits:
The Biker:
a Scania 3 axle unit which is taxed as PLGHuh?
If it is plated for under 7.5t it can be taxed as PLG. You could only carry an empty ■■■ packet though.
The Biker:
HiI work in an office and do some part time HGV driving.
One of my colleagues came to me the other day and asked if I could do a driving job for him.
I has bought a 56 tonne traction engine from Kent and it needs to be moved back to Yorkshire.
I can borrow a Scania 3 axle unit which is taxed as PLG and a matching trailer for the job.
As this load will be a STGO can a unit plated as PLG do the work?
Pete
In order to be taxed PLG, the maximum gross weight of the Scanny will be 7.5 tonnes so even putting a full ■■■ packet on the back could see it exceeding maximum weight.
However if it is taxed as a Private HGV, which it most likely is, then it IS taxed correctly to do this as a non-commercial personal hobby job however the plated weight on the tractor unit would have to be in excess of 80 tonnes (a flatbed to pull this will weigh about 20 tonnes alone) and a standard 3 axle unit is not going to be plated for 80 tonnes and won’t be capable of without some major work on suspension, steering and brakes. I once had a 3 axle Leyland Roadtrain which was plated for 60 tonnes and everything was built beyond belief compared to the standard ones and it’d pull up 38 tonnes on a 1p peice.
Also as it is STGO you need to inform the councils and local police authorities, filling in appropriate forms and get given a route plus requirements on any convoy escorting.
In short, its a non-goer.
I think your Scania may be taxed Private HGV using TC10 which costs £160
The alternative would be TC57 which costs £2585 for Special Types
PLG is either £130 or £215 dependant on engine size but is only for vehicles weighing less than 3500kg
Correct Malcolm & is what i meant to refer to in my above post - although PLG, as such, might not have existed in the era i refer to?
exmayor:
80 tonnes is not that heavy but if you are not a regular driver then please leave it to someone else and that is not meant to be patronising
thats how i meant to say it
as conner said you need movement order over 44 tonnes giving notice to police and councils of route you intend to take.
It seems that you could carry this load under Cat2 STGO. ie. Under 80,000kg
Thanks for the replys chaps - I have been part time driving for the past 25 years weekends and evenings as hours allow.
You have confirmed what I thought - i.e no can do - I meant the unit was taxed a Private HGV on PLG getting my words mixed up.
As for the weight this is what I was told by the bloke at work.
Will pass on all info and decline the job.
TA
Jobs been handed over to Alleys after the information given here was digested.
It actually turns out to be a load weighing 36t made up of a traction engine at 18t coupled to two gennies at 9t each.
Chap has an 8x4 164 580 x military Scania which is taxed as Private HGV.
Some pictures coming of the truck for interest.