Good evening,
Just a little advice needed?
I work from my usual depot, however sometimes the operators will ask me to work out of another depot for a day, or a week for instance. This can take me an extra 15 minutes each way on my journey time.
Do they have to pay me for travelling time to/from home? Or would it be better to go to the other depot, and start there (but then I would be using my own car to travel between depots and I don’t think that us classed as commuting?)
Cheers all
Huff
It entirely depends on what your contract of employment says.
I would be more concerned with updating my car insurance to include I think Business Class 1 status. How gutted would you be heaven forbid something happens and the insurance wriggle out of it because of that small omission.
Huff:
Good evening,Just a little advice needed?
I work from my usual depot, however sometimes the operators will ask me to work out of another depot for a day, or a week for instance. This can take me an extra 15 minutes each way on my journey time.
Do they have to pay me for travelling time to/from home? Or would it be better to go to the other depot, and start there (but then I would be using my own car to travel between depots and I don’t think that us classed as commuting?)
Cheers all
Huff
My thinking is this -
If you clock on at the usual depot then travel to the other depot then you are using your car for business purposes and requires business insurance as you are being paid from when you clock on
If you clock on at the second depot then it requires a discussion with the boss for the extra travelling costs unless that has already been covered in your contract of employment
I was thinking of British government defeated as EU court rules travelling to work 'is work' this ruling. It refers to tradesmen etc that work from an alternative location all the time; however, reading between the lines, it could refer to anyone who is not starting from their usual place of work?
Huff
Steve-o:
I would be more concerned with updating my car insurance to include I think Business Class 1 status. How gutted would you be heaven forbid something happens and the insurance wriggle out of it because of that small omission.
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This
probably difficult to prove exactly what you were using your car for but ins companies being what they are better to be safe than sorry.
Sorry are you clocking in at your main depot then driving the lorry to the alternative yard or taking your own car to pick up a lorry at the other depot?
If using your own vehicle and fuel I’d be asking for fuel expenses they should pay this from your main base of work to the different depot. Or at the very least ask for a few extra quid for fuel.
Are you working out of the second depot because there is no work for you at your normal depot or is it to cover the other depots shortfalls in staff? Are you the only driver being asked to do this? Maybe because you live between the two depots?
Which ever way I would be questioning why you are using more petrol ect in travelling to the other depot and definitely ask your insurance company about your cover.
When I was asked to work at other depots I always used a truck or hire car to do the travelling to cover myself and the company.
Very good points about the insurance, i only have to work from another site maybe one day year if that, insurer is aware of this and quite happy to leave me on sdp+commuting, but as above posters, don’t just assume.
I’d refuse to but my nearest depot is over the Dartford bridge which I wont travel over unless in a truck or there is a car/bike that I really want to get.
Do what most drivers do moan and ■■■■■ until they get their own way.
We have two depots, and if required to work from other depot, we either take our unit, or the company van.
The argument occurred years ago regarding this, so its the above procedure , every time…
And if you keep waffling on about insurance, the question is what were you doing, the answer is “going to work” not “i was travelling between depots”
I’ve said it before its how you word the answer to a question. Think then write.
Just to clarify. Whenever I have started at the other depot, I have always driven directly there.
The main question was in relation to travelling to a depot that is not my normal place of work.
Huff:
Just to clarify. Whenever I have started at the other depot, I have always driven directly there.
The main question was in relation to travelling to a depot that is not my normal place of work.
You need to have business insurance on your car as commuting only covers to one place of work. There is no automatic right to be paid mileage, it is up to you and your employer to negotiate it.
Conor:
Huff:
Just to clarify. Whenever I have started at the other depot, I have always driven directly there.
The main question was in relation to travelling to a depot that is not my normal place of work.You need to have business insurance on your car as commuting only covers to one place of work. There is no automatic right to be paid mileage, it is up to you and your employer to negotiate it.
I stand to be corrected but if the OP is driving straight from home to the other depot for the same employer it would still be one place of work as they’re still parking up working then going home as they would at the main depot.
But if they clocked/signed in at their main depot then drove to the other depot perhaps taking a few tools or paperwork while being paid THEN it would count as business cover or if you work for more than one employer like tradespeople do.
It might be an idea to see if you could use a company van or pool car? Or check with your boss about getting paid mileage if its leaving you out of pocket?
RB84:
Conor:
Huff:
Just to clarify. Whenever I have started at the other depot, I have always driven directly there.
The main question was in relation to travelling to a depot that is not my normal place of work.You need to have business insurance on your car as commuting only covers to one place of work. There is no automatic right to be paid mileage, it is up to you and your employer to negotiate it.
I stand to be corrected but if the OP is driving straight from home to the other depot for the same employer it would still be one place of work as they’re still parking up working then going home as they would at the main depot.
But if they clocked/signed in at their main depot then drove to the other depot perhaps taking a few tools or paperwork while being paid THEN it would count as business cover or if you work for more than one employer like tradespeople do.
It might be an idea to see if you could use a company van or pool car? Or check with your boss about getting paid mileage if its leaving you out of pocket?
Your insurance company will have a clause along the lines of “traveling to a fixed place of work”
I had business insurance for my old job (multiple locations sometimes) and it was only £25. Worth having in my opinion.
For those saying don’t tell them if it comes out your insurance will refuse to pay your costs and is legally entitled to sue you for 3rd party cost incurred. Trying to split hairs over how you answer questions will fall down in the terms and conditions of declaring all relevant information.
What you do is up to you however I think leaving yourself at risk of being sued and losing your home for the sake of £25ish is a very bad deal on the risk/reward ratio
Indeed, if your cover includes commuting check the small print, chances are its one place of work.
Speak to your insurer, if its the very odd time they may just make a note on the system or they may insist on upping to business use, this is when you’ll find out what sort of insurer you have, some will pull your pants down with large admin charges, others will be very reasonable.
The odd times i’ve driven to the other depot, i charge them mileage minus the distance to my normal work, can’t rememeber if its 45 or 50 ppm, one or the other, or i could use a pool car (going direct suits me) any company who expected you to help them out 
with a longer commute and expected you to finance their business in the process isn’t worth working for.
Don’t forget to add the journey time difference via manual entries for both ends of the day.
Arse covered from all directions.
kcrussell25:
RB84:
Conor:
Huff:
Just to clarify. Whenever I have started at the other depot, I have always driven directly there.
The main question was in relation to travelling to a depot that is not my normal place of work.You need to have business insurance on your car as commuting only covers to one place of work. There is no automatic right to be paid mileage, it is up to you and your employer to negotiate it.
I stand to be corrected but if the OP is driving straight from home to the other depot for the same employer it would still be one place of work as they’re still parking up working then going home as they would at the main depot.
But if they clocked/signed in at their main depot then drove to the other depot perhaps taking a few tools or paperwork while being paid THEN it would count as business cover or if you work for more than one employer like tradespeople do.
It might be an idea to see if you could use a company van or pool car? Or check with your boss about getting paid mileage if its leaving you out of pocket?
Your insurance company will have a clause along the lines of “traveling to a fixed place of work”
I had business insurance for my old job (multiple locations sometimes) and it was only £25. Worth having in my opinion.
For those saying don’t tell them if it comes out your insurance will refuse to pay your costs and is legally entitled to sue you for 3rd party cost incurred. Trying to split hairs over how you answer questions will fall down in the terms and conditions of declaring all relevant information.
What you do is up to you however I think leaving yourself at risk of being sued and losing your home for the sake of £25ish is a very bad deal on the risk/reward ratio
Yep had a little google after posting and to be fair you probably do need it. OP’S probably best to phone insurer and check as most policies differ best to get covered as insurers would wriggle out of paying out if they can do.
If it is going to cost them extra best see if the employer will compensate them for this to.
I know if I ever have to go to a different depot to work, I’m given a hire car. I did suggest once I’d use my own car and claim for the fuel, but was told they always provide hire cars as it saves any problems re insurance etc.