ValleysTrucker:
As with the driving hours etc I’ve got the basics now I suppose the more I do then full time now i will get in a certain habit to make it easier as you said like taking a 15 a few hours in etc. Thanks Evil.
I assume you mean minutes?
And on that note, remember that your drive time will only reset following a 30 min break (assuming you’ve already logged a 15)
It won’t reset by taking a 30 min break followed by a 15 min break.
P.S. Yes as a Newbie there is a lot to learn, but it comes with time…
ValleysTrucker:
As with the driving hours etc I’ve got the basics now I suppose the more I do then full time now i will get in a certain habit to make it easier as you said like taking a 15 a few hours in etc. Thanks Evil.
I assume you mean minutes?
And on that note, remember that your drive time will only reset following a 30 min break (assuming you’ve already logged a 15)
It won’t reset by taking a 30 min break followed by a 15 min break.
P.S. Yes as a Newbie there is a lot to learn, but it comes with time…
Evil Beezle, noticed you have been extremley helpful since ive been around these boards, just another newb question that popped into my head
So ive worked 6 hours, done my 45 driving/wtd break, and can work another 6 before taking my next wtd. Providing im under 4.5hrs driving for this 2nd period, how long do I need for my 2nd wtd break? As a couple of weeks ago i was out with an experienced driver who was adamant he needed 45 again, whereas i thought it was 30.
ValleysTrucker:
As with the driving hours etc I’ve got the basics now I suppose the more I do then full time now i will get in a certain habit to make it easier as you said like taking a 15 a few hours in etc. Thanks Evil.
I assume you mean minutes?
And on that note, remember that your drive time will only reset following a 30 min break (assuming you’ve already logged a 15)
It won’t reset by taking a 30 min break followed by a 15 min break.
P.S. Yes as a Newbie there is a lot to learn, but it comes with time…
Evil Beezle, noticed you have been extremley helpful since ive been around these boards, just another newb question that popped into my head
So ive worked 6 hours, done my 45 driving/wtd break, and can work another 6 before taking my next wtd. Providing im under 4.5hrs driving for this 2nd period, how long do I need for my 2nd wtd break? As a couple of weeks ago i was out with an experienced driver who was adamant he needed 45 again, whereas i thought it was 30.
Cheers
Depends on how much driving time you’ve got left compared to how much driving you’ve got to do till your finished
eg done 2hrs driving and only need 11/2 to get back take 30mins
but if you’ve done 31/2 hrs and still got 11/2 to do take 45mins
ValleysTrucker:
As with the driving hours etc I’ve got the basics now I suppose the more I do then full time now i will get in a certain habit to make it easier as you said like taking a 15 a few hours in etc. Thanks Evil.
I assume you mean minutes?
And on that note, remember that your drive time will only reset following a 30 min break (assuming you’ve already logged a 15)
It won’t reset by taking a 30 min break followed by a 15 min break.
P.S. Yes as a Newbie there is a lot to learn, but it comes with time…
Evil Beezle, noticed you have been extremley helpful since ive been around these boards, just another newb question that popped into my head
So ive worked 6 hours, done my 45 driving/wtd break, and can work another 6 before taking my next wtd. Providing im under 4.5hrs driving for this 2nd period, how long do I need for my 2nd wtd break? As a couple of weeks ago i was out with an experienced driver who was adamant he needed 45 again, whereas i thought it was 30.
Cheers
As I said up the page a bit, if you’re doing a shift between 9-12 hours you need breaks totaling 45 mins. Discounting driving breaks, as you say you may not need one. The only real rules regarding the WTD and taking of the breaks are:
A; The amount of breaks you need for your total work time,
B: You cannot work 6 hours or more without a break in one stint.
That’s about it!
Although I don’t think you can take your break right on the end of your shift, and would have to show 1 minutes work after your break!
So it’s perfectly fine to work 5:30 mins, take a 45 min break, and then work another 5:15 mins.
P.S. I can’t tell you if you need another 15 mins (total of 60 mins) if you work 12-15 hours as I’ve never checked.
I’m sure ROG or Tachograph would know as they are the experts on these matters.
blue estate:
Depends on how much driving time you’ve got left compared to how much driving you’ve got to do till your finished
eg done 2hrs driving and only need 11/2 to get back take 30mins
but if you’ve done 31/2 hrs and still got 11/2 to do take 45mins
blue estate:
Depends on how much driving time you’ve got left compared to how much driving you’ve got to do till your finished
eg done 2hrs driving and only need 11/2 to get back take 30mins
but if you’ve done 31/2 hrs and still got 11/2 to do take 45mins
I thought the questions was about WTD mate?
Yes , but if the op is close to needing to do another 45 due to running out of driving time its better to take 45 then take 30 for WT then having to take another 30 to sort driving time out an hour later
blue estate:
Depends on how much driving time you’ve got left compared to how much driving you’ve got to do till your finished
eg done 2hrs driving and only need 11/2 to get back take 30mins
but if you’ve done 31/2 hrs and still got 11/2 to do take 45mins
I thought the questions was about WTD mate?
Yes , but if the op is close to needing to do another 45 due to running out of driving time its better to take 45 then take 30 for WT then having to take another 30 to sort driving time out an hour later
Agreed, but I was trying to make the WTD rules simple for Newbies, and that just makes it all confusing.
They can start combining the rules when they understand them!
Alfa1M:
Between the pair of you, both managed to confuse me!!
Driving time almost never hits 4.5 hrs before my 6 hour limit.
So 30 Min WTD break is correct for the end of 2nd 6hr period, probiding I can get back to the yard without going over driving hours?
Fortunately this has only come close to happening once in my 6 weeks on the road , but good to know all the same
Are you paid or not paid for when on breaks ? 15mins extra is not much to take then you’ve got a full 4.5 hrs driving , it only needs one accident and stop start traffic to soon kill your driving time
Alfa1M:
Between the pair of you, both managed to confuse me!!
Driving time almost never hits 4.5 hrs before my 6 hour limit.
So 30 Min WTD break is correct for the end of 2nd 6hr period, probiding I can get back to the yard without going over driving hours?
Fortunately this has only come close to happening once in my 6 weeks on the road , but good to know all the same
I’m trying to keep it simple for you by ignoring the Driving Hours, as they are separate to WTD rules. They do however run side by side and they can be combined so that when you take a break you tick the boxes for both of them!
As you say, if you are doing a shift of 12 hours (not more than 12 hours) that falls within the WTD range of 9-12 hours, this will need 45 mins worth of breaks with regards to WTD. So ignoring the driving breaks as you may not need any to complete your shift if you’re doing something like multi-drop, you’ll need to take 45 mins of WTD breaks within your 12 hour shift. You still following?
When you take that 45 mins worth of breaks, that can be split into 3 lots of 15 mins is up to you!
All you have to do is ensure you never work 6 hours or more without a break, be that at the start of your shift, the middle of your shfit, or at the end of your shift. So you could take the whole 45 mins bang in the middle of your shift, or you can spread them out over your shift.
The reality is though that most people will want to reset their driving time within their shift and access a new block of 4.5 hours. So what most people will do is ensure they take a 15 minute break before 6 hours of work, and then take a 30 min break some time later which resets the driving time and keeps you legal with regard to WTD for a shift of 12 hour and under.
Alfa1M:
Between the pair of you, both managed to confuse me!!
Driving time almost never hits 4.5 hrs before my 6 hour limit.
So 30 Min WTD break is correct for the end of 2nd 6hr period, probiding I can get back to the yard without going over driving hours?
Fortunately this has only come close to happening once in my 6 weeks on the road , but good to know all the same
Are you paid or not paid for when on breaks ? 15mins extra is not much to take then you’ve got a full 4.5 hrs driving , it only needs one accident and stop start traffic to soon kill your driving time
I think im with you both. So by law I need 30 mins during or at the end of my 2nd 6 hour period. But I understand most take 45 to reset driving time. For me as I’m unpaid on break and I do local multidrop can’t see me needing that.
Just wondered why the experienced guy I was with was adamant it was 45, I can see his and your logic but it isn’t law?!
Alfa1M:
I think im with you both. So by law I need 30 mins during or at the end of my 2nd 6 hour period. But I understand most take 45 to reset driving time. For me as I’m unpaid on break and I do local multidrop can’t see me needing that.
Just wondered why the experienced guy I was with was adamant it was 45, I can see his and your logic but it isn’t law?!
I don’t know why he’s saying that either, but I’m still not sure you’ve got it as I don’t understand why you are saying “2nd 6 hour period”, there are no 6 hour periods really! You just need to not work for 6 hours in one block without a break!
Have a rest mate and come back and read just my posts again tomorrow (Ignore Blue Estate) I try to!
Hahaha! Thanks for the attempted help. I’ll reread when I’m on my tacho break tomorrow without the missus in my ear hole yapping on about bleeding x factor.
Had a good day today but thrown in the deep end straight away! Haha Done a few newbie mistakes which I’m sure I won’t do tomorrow and will save me but of time each drop. I worked 8am till 6pm is 45 break sufficient for this?? Also when I ejected card I forgot to set back to rest■■? So will it think I’m doing other work all through the night■■?
ValleysTrucker:
Had a good day today but thrown in the deep end straight away! Haha Done a few newbie mistakes which I’m sure I won’t do tomorrow and will save me but of time each drop. I worked 8am till 6pm is 45 break sufficient for this?? Also when I ejected card I forgot to set back to rest■■? So will it think I’m doing other work all through the night■■?
Yep 45mins is ok as long as it was after12pm thus meaning you split your 10 hours up
Yep was like 12.50. Another question I got is what’s best way strapping curtains?? Some times today didn’t seem quite right is it easier to put one both ends of curtain in, snap shut the clips and the. Tighten both ends slightly??
ValleysTrucker:
Yep was like 12.50. Another question I got is what’s best way strapping curtains?? Some times today didn’t seem quite right is it easier to put one both ends of curtain in, snap shut the clips and the. Tighten both ends slightly??
You should tighten the curtain BEFORE you do the straps/clasps/clips!
As for which end of the curtain you tighten, you should have an even amount at each end so when you release whichever end you want, you have enough slack to release the pole. It will come with practice as you learn that particular truck mate!
ValleysTrucker:
Yep was like 12.50. Another question I got is what’s best way strapping curtains?? Some times today didn’t seem quite right is it easier to put one both ends of curtain in, snap shut the clips and the. Tighten both ends slightly??
No put poles back in tighten both ends then either start at front or back and do the buckles
Tip only open the right amount of buckles and curtain for the pallet you need out
Haha I got to my first drop and struggled to undo it as there was too much tension! That’s what a newbie is about huh?? Happy with how it panned out after but still stressed at same time my head is working overtime already thinking about tomorrow! Do I do manual entry in morning now because I haven’t set it to rest before ejecting??
So will it think I’m doing other work all through the night■■?