Honestscott76:
Ok that explains the WTD issue of 70 hours duty.
Ok, so why 7 shifts are illegal; Simply the fact that they are consecutive. Please, please, please read the regulation I posted headed “Weekly Rest Periods” it’s CRYSTAL CLEAR.
I am sorry but you are wrong and ROG is correct. I regularly do 7 or 8 shifts in the 6 days (144 hours) that the regulations allow between weekly rest periods. There is nothing in the rules to prohibit it.
Please Explain how you do “7 or 8 shifts in the 6 days” ?
I see now, thanks. Very facetious!
Although Your right in principle, your example is highly improbable. As your well aware, that just wouldn’t work in our industry. ANYWHERE.
I see now, thanks. Very facetious!
Although Your right in principle, your example is highly improbable. As your well aware, that just wouldn’t work in our industry. ANYWHERE.
Thanks, Scott.
You asked whelmic to show you his actual shifts then say its improbable … how does that compute
Honestscott76:
Please Explain how you do “7 or 8 shifts in the 6 days” ?
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I see now, thanks. Very facetious!
Although Your right in principle, your example is highly improbable. As your well aware, that just wouldn’t work in our industry. ANYWHERE.
It’s not only correct in principle it’s legal, there’s nothing to stop you doing more than six shifts between weekly rest periods.
While the example given by whelmic may be a bit improbable it clearly shows how it’s possible to do eight shifts between weekly rest periods, doing seven shifts between weekly rest periods however is far less improbable.
I see now, thanks. Very facetious!
Although Your right in principle, your example is highly improbable. As your well aware, that just wouldn’t work in our industry. ANYWHERE.
Thanks, Scott.
You asked whelmic to show you his actual shifts then say its improbable … how does that compute
Simple, show me tachograph records that support whelmic’s example. You know as we as anyone, it’s just not rational to work in line with his example.
I suggest you try it yourself tomorrow, pull your card after 9 hours. [emoji23]
Honestscott76:
Simple, show me tachograph records that support whelmic’s example. You know as we as anyone, it’s just not rational to work in line with his example.
Nobodies talking about what is or is not rational, you said it’s illegal to work more than six shifts between weekly rest periods and you’ve already conceded that it is legal.
Victa1:
Hi a noob question for you , am I right in thinking my working week begins at the end of a 45 hr weekly rest no matter what day it falls on and not strickly from Sun to mon ?
Thanks.
Sorry your question seems to have taken a back seat in this thread, but this is Trucknet-UK so it’s not that unusual that to happen
The time between your weekly rest periods is generally called your working week, so if you work say Tuesday to Saturday that would be your working week, however be aware that weekly rest periods have to be taken in each fixed week (00:00 Monday to 24:00 Sunday).
You must have a regular weekly rest period at-least every second fixed week with at-least 24 hour reduced weekly rest periods on alternate weeks (that’s fixed weeks).
If you have reduced weekly rest periods the compensation must be paid back en-block by the end of the third week following the week in which you took the reduced weekly rest period.
Honestscott76:
Simple, show me tachograph records that support whelmic’s example. You know as we as anyone, it’s just not rational to work in line with his example.
I suggest you try it yourself tomorrow, pull your card after 9 hours. [emoji23]
Here are my actual shifts from last week (all times GMT)
Sun 19:03 - Sun 19:22 - Shift 1 (Drive onto ferry in Barcelona)
Mon 06:34 - Mon 07:38 - Shift 2 (Unload and return to ferry in Mallorca)
Mon 19:03 - Mon 21:33 - Shift 3 (Drive Barcelona - Empuriabrava)
Tue 10:44 - Tue 11:35 - Shift 4 (Load in Empuriabrava)
Tue 20:37 - Wed 08:23 - Shift 5 (Drive Empuriabrava - Mid France)
Wed 18:01 - Thu 08:15 - Shift 6 (Drive Mid France - St Malo and board ferry)
Thu 17:17 - Thu 18:04 - Shift 7 (Drive Portsmouth - Southampton)
Fri 07:26 - Fri 16:44 - Shift 8 (Unload, drive to Plymouth, load)
You don’t get paid by the hour tho do you? Hence my understanding of shifts, no haulier in the right mind would plan a shift that consists of less than 1 hour. I would get 8 hrs pay for such a ‘shift’.
Honestscott76:
Ah! European driving, my misunderstanding sorry.
You don’t get paid by the hour tho do you? Hence my understanding of shifts, no haulier in the right mind would plan a shift that consists of less than 1 hour. I would get 8 hrs pay for such a ‘shift’.
No I am a owner driver. Shifts of less than a hour are not ideal, but necessary sometimes to tie in with ferries and time restrictions for abnormal load movements (which is most of the work that I do). For example, it is only possible to cross the Spanish/French border at La Jonquera between 22:00 and 08:00.
It’s been a good debate, although a little factitious against my interpretation of the argument but at least we got our opinions across. That’s what forums are based on, in my opinion. [emoji2]
