Start class 2 in morning

Peter Smythe:
listen VERY carefully to the instruction given by the examiner on the approach to roundabouts. If you hear the words “straight ahead” then that’s what it is - and so there’s no right signal. But if you hear the words “the road leading off to your right” or something similar to that, then it’s a right turn and needs a right signal

Everybody should take massive note of Pete’s words above. They are one of the key points to getting the correct approach lane and correct signalling at roundabouts. The clues are almost always entirely in the examiner’s words.

It is also one reason why people sometimes get it wrong during the 10 minute independant drive, because nobody is giving precise instructions at the roundabout. Here the skill is in thoroughly analysing the information board on the approach and making correct decisions. During training make sure you are as familiar with the various roads used for the 10 min independant as possible. That way there will be no surprises on the day.

Brilliant note from Pete, that makes life a lot clearer. Is there a requirement to indicate left off a mini roundabout, as some of these are pretty tricky??

Peter Smythe:
Just a little tip that may help - and I dare say John has already told you but may be handy for others: listen VERY carefully to the instruction given by the examiner on the approach to roundabouts. If you hear the words “straight ahead” then that’s what it is - and so there’s no right signal. But if you hear the words “the road leading off to your right” or something similar to that, then it’s a right turn and needs a right signal (except for some rare circumstances typically on a gyroscopic roundabout).

So, in summary: straight ahead - - no signal. Right, right signal.

And in all normal cases, a left signal is required to leave the roundabout.

Hope this helps, Pete :laughing: :laughing:

Interesting. When LGV training about ten years ago, I’m pretty sure our local examiner would say “take the third exit” etc because a lot of roundabouts aren’t symmetrical, so the trainee then signalled accordingly.

Incidentally the indicate to the right whilst taking the second exit always baffled us at our training school!

Best of luck, by the way.

And IF you do fail - well it’s NOT the end of the world, it doesn’t mean your not up to it, we can’t everything right all the time, just book for a retest and have a long chat with your trainer, iron out the glitches. I made a cockup of my CE first time, no probs the next week. My C and D tests were fine first time but it can be as simple as being “thrown” by a ■■■■■■■■ car driver doing something unexpected that can trip you up.

Tramlad:
Brilliant note from Pete, that makes life a lot clearer. Is there a requirement to indicate left off a mini roundabout, as some of these are pretty tricky??

If the front wheels are already starting to turn off it then a signal is pointless - that is what happens in most cases

Cheers to everybody with great info on me roundabout probs…its back training in morning only 6hrs b4 test on friday… cant wait :grimacing: :grimacing:
thanks to all weeman

Is there a requirement to indicate left off a mini roundabout, as some of these are pretty tricky??

It all depends. If it’s the 1st exit and the road leads off to the left (not always the same thing), then a left signal should be given on the approach and turned off once you’ve left the roundabout.

Other exits - get the left signal on if it’s possible and reasonable.

Common fault: approaching a mini-roundabout and taking the road ahead - the first exit in this scenario. A left signal should definitely be given on the approach if there is any traffic coming towards you. This confirms your intention and puts their mind at rest that you are not turning to your right (across their path).

My general rule for ALL signals: always consider what your signal will mean to whoever can see it. That answers 99% queries.

All the best, Pete :laughing: :laughing:

Thank you Pete, makes it a lot clearer. Superb common sense approach.

Peter Smythe:
Common fault: approaching a mini-roundabout and taking the road ahead - the first exit in this scenario. A left signal should definitely be given on the approach if there is any traffic coming towards you. This confirms your intention and puts their mind at rest that you are not turning to your right (across their path).

It also keeps the oncoming vehicle going which in turn blocks anyone coming out from your right so that helps you

I said before that LGV and advanced were very close in their driving styles and this is just another little example which proves the point

2hrs training left got better, got mirror problems not enough nearside mirror keep telling meslf off about mirror, :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:
fingers x by test time i should be fine 2 hrs training left, if a fail then a kick up the arse & a retest, :blush: :blush: :blush:
all you can do is try my best & if thats not enough try again, :grimacing: :grimacing:
so by this time friday i shall be 1 ov either :smiley: :frowning:
so people thanks 4 all great info cheers WEEMAN :grimacing:

Stay calm, even if you make the silly mistakes tomorrow b4 test, relax and focus, learn from them, listen carefully to your examiner, plenty of mirror work and you’ll be fine!

by irishexpat » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:02 pm

Stay calm, even if you make the silly mistakes tomorrow b4 test, relax and focus, learn from them, listen carefully to your examiner, plenty of mirror work and you’ll be fine!

fingers x all shall be good gonna listen and relax and do me mirrors, and hope for best :
cheers WEEMAN

Abs now is the time to stay calm and relaxed mate.

Although I have only trained you for the 1st day I know you can do this. I need you to believe in you like I do.

3/4 minors will be the outcome. Then on to C+E. When I assessed you 3 days I know I got it right.

Good luck to everyone else as well testing tomorrow

cheers john, i is calm just ■■■■■■ at me self with me mirrors, crazy i know :grimacing: :grimacing:
cheers weeman

Good luck with the test!

well people got a fail today was only out for ten mins failed on stop & go,
wrong signal so a s mark i knew i had failed so went straight back to test center,
could not be arsed with it got sick wife and baby i knew my head not in it,
sorry john abs

Seems like you head was not in full LGV mode

Are you saying that knowing you’d failed you called off the test when you could have carried on and finished it :open_mouth:

get straight back on that horse…and make it have it

tachograph:
Are you saying that knowing you’d failed you called off the test when you could have carried on and finished it :open_mouth:

If his head was elsewhere then that was the best thing to do - good decision in this case

Hello again all, in response to tachos ques ,
when i knew i had failed due to me head being in me ■■■ hole :blush: :blush:
i decide to come back as i knew i had failed asked and he confirmed , :cry: :cry: :cry:
could not be arsed going on wanted home as family are ill, not good, :frowning: :frowning:
but home with me family know and all is good, :grimacing: :grimacing:
paid for retest already and cant wait to put a wrong right, to make things even more better,
just been laid off as i work for comet oncall as 7.5t driver installer but no more, SACKED, :imp: :imp: :imp: :imp:
wat the F*%< can go wrong next, its so funny its sad , i dont know if to laugh or cry, next time i will pass ,
CHEERS abs, weeman