Hi all.
I think I already know the answer to this but was wondering if there is any way to have my daily rest tonight, then go and pick up my truck from the garage in the morning (about an hour’s work), then come back and rest for the day before working the evening shift tomorrow eve (will likely only be about five hours, but if my 15 hours starts from when I put my card in to collect truck in the morning then I’ll most likely be over the 15).
I’ve never had to split my shift so don’t know the rules around this. I’m not even sure this is possible as I think most people seem to confuse it with a split rest.
Not sure on the exact times you mean but you always need at least 9hrs off in every 24.
Splitting a shift 3 rest + 9 rest enables the 9 off to count as a full rest, not a reduced one.
Rest can be split on ferry or train moves but that is it.
IS the truck at an outside workshop? If so, your day might really start not from when you collect your truck, but from when you leave normal depot to go and collect it.,
Unless there’s a rest period of at-least 9 hours before starting work in the evening your working day will start when you go to pick up the lorry in the morning.
Unless unforeseeable circumstances occur there is no legal way to have a daily working period of more than 15 hours unless multi-manning.
FYI, in the regulations there is no such thing as a split shift only a split daily rest period, I suppose you could ague that a split daily rest period splits the daily working period but the regulations only talk about a split daily rest period 
Well, I ended up finishing 2pm today so just went and got it before finishing. However, is it the case that I could’ve got it in the morning and been OK so long as I didn’t start evening shift for 9 hours? I thought it would still count as same day?
A daily rest period of 9 or 11 hours resets the 24 hour period, in other words a new working day begins after a daily rest period.
I’m not sure what timings @tailschwing means.
If he had 9 off tonight,
went in 2moro morning just to collect truck for an hr or two,
then had 9 off,
Could he then legally start another full new shift 2moro evening?
I think that was the scenario?
If so then, yes, that would have been legal, but would have been 2 of the 3 permitted reduced daily rests used.
That’s exactly the way the original scenario was except that he would have been collecting the lorry in the morning after a daily rest period, no mention of a reduced daily rest period there
Now he knows that he could have collected the vehicle in the morning then had a reduced daily rest period of 9 hours and started a new working day, or new shift if you prefer, in the evening 
2moro … you’ve been spending too much time on FaceAche 
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Ohh ! I feel hurt. I am not on FaceAche at all.
2moro is a probably a hangover from the days of limited text messages on old phones etc. Plus it saves a half second of typing.
Thankyou gents. That defo cleared it up for me.
And to clarify, yes the idea was originally to work a day shift, have the full daily rest, then collect the truck in the morn, before coming back and doing and evening/night shift.
I think what may have confused me is the daily vs weekly rest thing.
When we worked the bank holiday before last, we had a reduced weekly rest on the Thursday in lieu of the weekend (and then also had Tuesday off).
Shipping were thinking that because we’d already had our weekly rest that it was essentially a new week. They didn’t understand that it was still the same Mon-Fri period and hence still had to be no more than 60 hours work/driving deposit having had our rest.
For some reason, I was kind of viewing this in a similar way, thinking that despite having had the daily rest it was still counted as that day’s shift rather than a new one.