this week i’ve used all my reduced daily rests but on friday i had aover 7 hours continuous break i’m sure this allows me to split my rest into a 3 hours followed by another 9, which rog agrees is legal but when i got up to start work my hour guard wouldn’t allow me to start until i’d taken 11 hours.
i put my card in friday morning at 6.26
parked up at 7.15
had over 7 hours unbrocken break
pulled my card at 18.49
what are the rules regarding split daily rest?
The guard has a secret camera hidden in it and saw you tipping on break naughty naughty 
Mr B:
this week i’ve used all my reduced daily rests but on friday i had aover 7 hours continuous break i’m sure this allows me to split my rest into a 3 hours followed by another 9, which rog agrees is legal but when i got up to start work my hour guard wouldn’t allow me to start until i’d taken 11 hours.
i put my card in friday morning at 6.26
parked up at 7.15
had over 7 hours unbrocken break
pulled my card at 18.49
what are the rules regarding split daily rest?
A period of at least 3 hours rest during the shift and another of at least 9 hours rest at the end, giving a daily rest period of at least 12 hours. You need to ask Davey why the DHG acted like it did because based on the times and info given you could have legally resumed work at 03:49.
Mr B:
this week i’ve used all my reduced daily rests but on friday i had aover 7 hours continuous break i’m sure this allows me to split my rest into a 3 hours followed by another 9, which rog agrees is legal but when i got up to start work my hour guard wouldn’t allow me to start until i’d taken 11 hours.
i put my card in friday morning at 6.26
parked up at 7.15
had over 7 hours unbrocken break
pulled my card at 18.49
what are the rules regarding split daily rest?
i think it could be that you put your hour guard on break in stead of rest if you put it on rest and the rest later you would of been ok , like all computers you have to tell it what you are doing it can not read your mind 
delboytwo:
i think it could be that you put your hour guard on break in stead of rest if you put it on rest and the rest later you would of been ok
Spot on Del 
I asked Davey about this on another post and got that answer.
I did not realise (do now) that the timer, unlike the tacho, has TWO different settings - one for BREAK and one for REST - the tacho has only ONE option which covers both.
EDIT - this was in reference to the early versions - the latest versions will recognise splits - see Daveys post further down this thread
Steve-o:
The guard has a secret camera hidden in it and saw you tipping on break naughty naughty
I still say I was closer to the truth 
Steve-o:
The guard has a secret camera hidden in it and saw you tipping on break naughty naughty
thank god thats all it saw… 7 hours is a long time!!!
Mr B:
Steve-o:
The guard has a secret camera hidden in it and saw you tipping on break naughty naughtythank god thats all it saw… 7 hours is a long time!!!
Ya clatty ham shanker .oO( did I say that out loud?)
How is that Stralis working out for you? The bed fell to bits on mine and I’m only 8 stone. 
Steve-o:
Mr B:
Steve-o:
The guard has a secret camera hidden in it and saw you tipping on break naughty naughtythank god thats all it saw… 7 hours is a long time!!!
Ya clatty ham shanker .oO( did I say that out loud?)
How is that Stralis working out for you? The bed fell to bits on mine and I’m only 8 stone.
i’ve heard they can’t take the strain of vigourous thomas tanks!! top or bottom bunk? i sleep on the top bunk and its the most solid part of the whole truck.
i actually like the stralis now its good to drive and live in if only the build quality would be closer to volvo it’d be a top truck.
Mr B:
Steve-o:
Mr B:
Steve-o:
The guard has a secret camera hidden in it and saw you tipping on break naughty naughtythank god thats all it saw… 7 hours is a long time!!!
Ya clatty ham shanker .oO( did I say that out loud?)
How is that Stralis working out for you? The bed fell to bits on mine and I’m only 8 stone.
i’ve heard they can’t take the strain of vigourous thomas tanks!! top or bottom bunk? i sleep on the top bunk and its the most solid part of the whole truck.
i actually like the stralis now its good to drive and live in if only the build quality would be closer to volvo it’d be a top truck.
Well seeing as mine was a wendy house I didn’t have much say where I slept Another problem I had was the ■■■ plugs kept popping out the sockets and if I wanted to use the inverter I had to use the floor socket and jam something against the flap to keep the plug pushed in. With my 24v cooker I had to open the ■■■ tray and plug it in there and wrap the cable round the handbrake to keep it pulled down. If I didn’t do that the plug would slowly move up and get mega mega hot! If I lifted the middle section of the bed then loads of screws would fall out and the bed would fall to bits and this was brand new when I got it.
Great truck 
i think i’ve got it now. if i have a 3 hour break i can reduce my daily break to 9 hours without attecting my normal 3 reduced daily breaks but in order to fit within a 24 hour period i can only do a max 12 hour spread over. is that right?
Mr B:
i think i’ve got it now. if i have a 3 hour break i can reduce my daily break to 9 hours without attecting my normal 3 reduced daily breaks but in order to fit within a 24 hour period i can only do a max 12 hour spread over. is that right?
It is, although you can start your 9 hour portion of rest 15 hours after starting your shift.
Mr B:
if i have a 3 hour break i can reduce my daily break to 9 hours without attecting my normal 3 reduced daily breaks but in order to fit within a 24 hour period i can only do a max 12 hour spread over
I’ve always been unsure what the term spreadover actually means…
Is it (A) the actual work done from start to end of a shift
or
is it (B) the actual time from when the shift started to when it finishes
or
is it (C) something else
ROG:
Mr B:
if i have a 3 hour break i can reduce my daily break to 9 hours without attecting my normal 3 reduced daily breaks but in order to fit within a 24 hour period i can only do a max 12 hour spread overI’ve always been unsure what the term spreadover actually means…
Is it (A) the actual work done from start to end of a shift
or
is it (B) the actual time from when the shift started to when it finishes
or
is it (C) something else
B
Thanks - does that mean the spreadover that Mr B refers to would be a 15 hour spreadover and not a 12 ?
ROG:
Thanks - does that mean the spreadover that Mr B refers to would be a 15 hour spreadover and not a 12 ?
It does if you can make those two numbers add up to 24 Rog
He hasn’t had a reduced rest, he has had an extended rest 
3 + 9 =
ROG:
Thanks - does that mean the spreadover that Mr B refers to would be a 15 hour spreadover and not a 12 ?
Could be either, or any other number. You could do a 12 hours with a 3 hour rest within it and then take 9. You could do the same with 15 hours, 13 hours, 7 hours etc. In his OP he had a 12 hour 23 minute ‘spreadover’.
Spreadover is an old term which can lead to confusion so is usually best avoided.
Wheel Nut:
ROG:
Thanks - does that mean the spreadover that Mr B refers to would be a 15 hour spreadover and not a 12 ?It does if you can make those two numbers add up to 24 Rog
He hasn’t had a reduced rest, he has had an extended rest
AH … but the 3 hours is between the start & finish times of the shift and according to the answer earlier, spreadover is from when the shift starts to when it finishes…
ROG:
Wheel Nut:
ROG:
Thanks - does that mean the spreadover that Mr B refers to would be a 15 hour spreadover and not a 12 ?It does if you can make those two numbers add up to 24 Rog
He hasn’t had a reduced rest, he has had an extended rest
AH … but the 3 hours is between the start & finish times of the shift and according to the answer earlier, spreadover is from when the shift starts to when it finishes…
Forget about spreadover ROG, it’s an out of date term which is just going to confuse you. Even more than you already are with it.
I know it’s out of date but many use the term so out of curiousity I though I would ask it’s meaning so that I knew exactly what they meant