Have done a search, but cant find anything…
Whats the official/correct process for a split break using a digi card??
On the old sysytem(paper discs), i would finish my card off once stopped, then put another in to show the movements and breaks taken, then once the split break was finished, put a fresh card in to start the day. Obviously this isnt possible with a Digi…
Anyone know what the correct procedure is, to avoid any costly fines with the French/Belgians etc…
Do you mean a split DAILY REST of 3 hours and then 9 hours for example 
BuzzardBoy:
Have done a search, but cant find anything…Whats the official/correct process for a split break using a digi card??
On the old sysytem(paper discs), i would finish my card off once stopped, then put another in to show the movements and breaks taken, then once the split break was finished, put a fresh card in to start the day. Obviously this isnt possible with a Digi…
Anyone know what the correct procedure is, to avoid any costly fines with the French/Belgians etc…
I assume you’re talking about split daily rest rather than split breaks, in which case you simply put the tachograph on rest for the 3 hour rest period then either take the card out or put it on rest again at the end of the shift 
Sorry if I’ve misunderstood the question 
WITH movements are you talking about
the TRAIN,or Ferry; IF so there is a laid down
method of doing this,Try looking at the forum
where those with better knowledge and also
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Sorry, i havent explained it properly…
I mean split break with the 2 movement rule for embarking/disembarking off a ferry…
There is a special mode that is programmed into the tacho unit for this. I would have thought you go through the menu to set it but if it goes on that mode then it shows you have been on a ferry or train and are taking a split daily rest. Sorry if that doesnt make any sense, i have never used it personally but heard about it on the International CPC.
It’s easy, at least on a VDO tacho. I think on a Stoneridge you need to press the ferry mode switch at the start and end of each interruption.
Park in queue and put tacho on rest.
Enter country for end of duty location.
Before you board scroll through the menu until you find the ‘Ferry’ option, select it then drive on to the ferry.
Once on board select rest again.
On arrival on the other side, select ‘ferry’ and drive off the boat.
Park up, select rest again and complete your 11 hour rest period. Note it must be 11 hours rest plus the time for the two movements and it must all fall into the 24-hour period which began when you started your duty. It is very important you have 11 hours actual rest and not just 11hours between parking up before embarkation and resuming work.
After completing your rest, change mode switch to other work and select country for start of duty location.
The ferry mode simply records the reason for interrupting your rest so the police or VOSA can see why there was interruptions. Also remember you must have access to a bunk for all parts of the rest, so this cannot be used on the Dover/Calais routes for instance.
Thanks Grasshopper and Neil…
I didnt know they had a preset “Ferry” option into the digital tacho… Every day’s a school day…
Thanls Again.
Coffeeholic:
It’s easy, at least on a VDO tacho. I think on a Stoneridge you need to press the ferry mode switch at the start and end of each interruption.Park in queue and put tacho on rest.
Enter country for end of duty location.
Before you board scroll through the menu until you find the ‘Ferry’ option, select it then drive on to the ferry.
Once on board select rest again.
On arrival on the other side, select ‘ferry’ and drive off the boat.
Park up, select rest again and complete your 11 hour rest period. Note it must be 11 hours rest plus the time for the two movements and it must all fall into the 24-hour period which began when you started your duty. It is very important you have 11 hours actual rest and not just 11hours between parking up before embarkation and resuming work.
After completing your rest, change mode switch to other work and select country for start of duty location.
The ferry mode simply records the reason for interrupting your rest so the police or VOSA can see why there was interruptions. Also remember you must have access to a bunk for all parts of the rest, so this cannot be used on the Dover/Calais routes for instance.
Execpt if you get pulled by the nice French police, one of our drivers did just that on the way out got a pull in France north of Paris and they would not accept that you can interupt your rest cost 135 Euros,
EC tacho rules and French rules
mick_n3:
Execpt if you get pulled by the nice French police, one of our drivers did just that on the way out got a pull in France north of Paris and they would not accept that you can interupt your rest cost 135 Euros,
EC tacho rules and French rules
Which way did he ship out? You say it was north of Paris so if he crossed via the train or Dover - Calais then you cannot interrupt your rest in this way and the police were correct.
If he crossed a different way where he had access to a bunk then more fool your driver for paying it then. There is no such thing as French rules and EU rules when it comes to the Driver’s Hours Regulations. So, instead of paying he should have asked to see the boss and argued the point. It works every time because when they can’t show you which rule you have contravened then they can’t take the money off you. All isn’t lost though because he hasn’t been fined yet, merely paid a deposit so you can appeal it and get the money back, and assuming he used the rules correctly.
Coffeeholic:
It’s easy, at least on a VDO tacho. I think on a Stoneridge you need to press the ferry mode switch at the start and end of each interruption.Park in queue and put tacho on rest.
Enter country for end of duty location.
Before you board scroll through the menu until you find the ‘Ferry’ option, select it then drive on to the ferry.
Once on board select rest again.
On arrival on the other side, select ‘ferry’ and drive off the boat.
Park up, select rest again and complete your 11 hour rest period. Note it must be 11 hours rest plus the time for the two movements and it must all fall into the 24-hour period which began when you started your duty. It is very important you have 11 hours actual rest and not just 11hours between parking up before embarkation and resuming work.
After completing your rest, change mode switch to other work and select country for start of duty location.
The ferry mode simply records the reason for interrupting your rest so the police or VOSA can see why there was interruptions. Also remember you must have access to a bunk for all parts of the rest, so this cannot be used on the Dover/Calais routes for instance.
If you have to take 11hrs break plus the movements then there’s no real point is there? I’m confused a little by your answer.
It wouls seem that you have to take 11hrs break after the ferry which you would take anyway so no benefit?
welshboyinspain:
If you have to take 11hrs break plus the movements then there’s no real point is there? I’m confused a little by your answer.
It wouls seem that you have to take 11hrs break after the ferry which you would take anyway so no benefit?
You have to take 11h total break which can be interrtuped by the movements.
What Coffeeholic was trying to point out is that you can’t have, for example, a break from 7pm to 6am (i.e. 11h) with two 15minute interruptions for moving on and off the ferry, as that actually means you’re only having 10.5h of actual break time. You would need to wait until 6:30am before you could set off.
Also if you’re planning on using this, you must bear in mind that the entire break must fit within a 24h period from the start of the previous shift, so you can’t do a 13h shift and then use the ferry rule as you won’t then get your shift, the 11h break and the ferry movements in within the 24h period.
Paul
repton:
welshboyinspain:
If you have to take 11hrs break plus the movements then there’s no real point is there? I’m confused a little by your answer.
It wouls seem that you have to take 11hrs break after the ferry which you would take anyway so no benefit?You have to take 11h total break which can be interrtuped by the movements.
What Coffeeholic was trying to point out is that you can’t have, for example, a break from 7pm to 6am (i.e. 11h) with two 15minute interruptions for moving on and off the ferry, as that actually means you’re only having 10.5h of actual break time. You would need to wait until 6:30am before you could set off.
Also if you’re planning on using this, you must bear in mind that the entire break must fit within a 24h period from the start of the previous shift, so you can’t do a 13h shift and then use the ferry rule as you won’t then get your shift, the 11h break and the ferry movements in within the 24h period.
Paul
Exactly, you must show 11 hours of actual rest and not just 11 hours between parking up before boarding and resuming work after the crossing. You are unlikely to be able to work much more than 12.5 hours before arriving at the port and meet the requirements for interrupted daily rest.
if you drive 9hrs plus 1hr break only done 10hrs duty which is quite easy on continent.
I think I understand better now. but does the 11 hrs starts when you park up in port? if not no need to take split break?
one thing though I know I’m being bit of a pain but what about when you in the queue and they call you forwards for embarkation then stop your line and call another line then after a short period you move again. is this ok because you’ve moved more than once?
sorry to be a pain
welshboyinspain:
if you drive 9hrs plus 1hr break only done 10hrs duty which is quite easy on continent.
True, but a lot of guys use it on the way out after doing collections in the UK before heading for the port and if they do much more than 12.5 hours then it doesn’t leave much time for the interruptions and the 11 hours rest.
welshboyinspain:
I think I understand better now. but does the 11 hrs starts when you park up in port? if not no need to take split break?
The 11 hours start when you put the tacho on rest so that could be when you join the queue in the lanes or when you board the ferry, whatever suits you and complies with the requirements. Incidentally, it is interrupted rest, split break is a completely different thing.
welshboyinspain:
one thing though I know I’m being bit of a pain but what about when you in the queue and they call you forwards for embarkation then stop your line and call another line then after a short period you move again. is this ok because you’ve moved more than once?
It’s not the number of movements which is limited, it is the interruptions which are limited to two, totalling no more than 1 hour. So if they call you forward to embark and you stop start a few times, taking say 15 minutes to get on board and put the tacho back on rest then that leaves you 45 minutes for the interruption to disembark.
thanks coffeeholic you’ve been really helpful.
I’ve got digitach in truck but so far not used ferry/train option as bilbao or santander long enough and calais not long enough.
if we ever meet will buy you a coffee as you like it so much 
Neil, does a 9 + 2 ferry / train break plus the movements still count as a 9 hour rest and therefore limit us to 3 ferry crossings in a week using this method. A bit confusing but I know what I mean 
Thanks. Malc
Wheel Nut:
Neil, does a 9 + 2 ferry / train break plus the movements still count as a 9 hour rest and therefore limit us to 3 ferry crossings in a week using this method. A bit confusing but I know what I meanThanks. Malc
Can’t answer for Coffeeholic but if you’re taking advantage of the ferry/train interrupted daily rest, the total ■■■■■■■■■ daily rest has to be at least 11 hours and counts as a regular daily rest, legally you can’t do it with a reduced daily rest of 9 ■■■■■■■■■ hours.
Page 17 - Drivers hours and tachograph rules:
Journeys involving ferry or train transportWhere a driver accompanies a vehicle that is being transported by ferry or train, the daily rest
requirements are more flexible.
A regular daily rest period may be interrupted no more than twice, but the total interruption must not
exceed 1 hour in total. This allows for a vehicle to be driven onto a ferry and off at the end of a sea
crossing. Where the rest period is interrupted in this way, the total ■■■■■■■■■ rest period must still
be 11 hours. A bunk or couchette must be available during the rest period.
Article 9 (1)REGULATION (EC) No 561/2006:
- By way of derogation from Article 8, where a driver
accompanies a vehicle which is transported by ferry or train,
and takes a regular daily rest period, that period may be
interrupted not more than twice by other activities not
exceeding one hour in total. During that regular daily rest
period the driver shall have access to a bunk or couchette.
Wheel Nut:
Neil, does a 9 + 2 ferry / train break plus the movements still count as a 9 hour rest and therefore limit us to 3 ferry crossings in a week using this method.
As tachograph has already said, you can’t use the “ferry rule” with a reduced rest, it can only be used with a full 11h rest period.
Paul
It is ok, I was having a senior moment there, thanks to Tachograph and Repton for reminding me.
As the bloke in Goodness Gracious Me said. “I knew that”
It was just a nagging doubt that I had got it wrong this week after 6 channel crossings using Newhaven, Dieppe, and Le Havre.