Took my car over the channel for a visit to The Netherlands over the New Year. I have come home to be greeted by two speeding tickets
89kmh in an 80kmh zone - €64
114kmh in a 100kmh zone - €114
I’ve got a couple queries about this.
I’ve driven a lot quicker through Europe before and was under the assumption that tickets from abroad can’t be traced to UK owners. However on a bit of research maybe this changed from my last visit [emoji848]
I am going to pay these tickets (maybe, depending on replies [emoji23]) but what would the outcome be if I just ignored these tickets? I never go on plane to Holland anyway so my passport never gets scanned. Also would it be as easy as taking a different car to avoid being stopped there next time?
Also the tickets came pretty sharpish as I also forgot to pay Dartford crossing on the way back and I’m still waiting for that letter [emoji1751][emoji3603] but the ones from Netherlands have arrived already.
Me personally i always pay my fines if i get caught.
Either take a slap on the wrist and pay up, or ignore them and take the risk then you MIGHT end up paying more in the long run.
Im not a saint either when it comes to speed limits, il quite happily push it a little when i deem it safe to do so, but nothing crazy. I got done two years ago in germany and it cost me €25. Not bad for 12 years on the road imon
jund24:
Took my car over the channel for a visit to The Netherlands over the New Year. I have come home to be greeted by two speeding tickets
89kmh in an 80kmh zone - €64
114kmh in a 100kmh zone - €114
I’ve got a couple queries about this.
I’ve driven a lot quicker through Europe before and was under the assumption that tickets from abroad can’t be traced to UK owners. However on a bit of research maybe this changed from my last visit [emoji848]
I am going to pay these tickets (maybe, depending on replies [emoji23]) but what would the outcome be if I just ignored these tickets? I never go on plane to Holland anyway so my passport never gets scanned. Also would it be as easy as taking a different car to avoid being stopped there next time?
Also the tickets came pretty sharpish as I also forgot to pay Dartford crossing on the way back and I’m still waiting for that letter [emoji1751][emoji3603] but the ones from Netherlands have arrived already.
All in all a successful trip [emoji2957]
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Firstly double check with DVLA/Dutch authorities that it’s not a scam and if not might as well pay it to get it out of the way and look on the bright side at least it hasn’t reached the stage of cross border licence penalties.As for the use of the cross border data base it was introduced recently although luckily I didn’t hear anything having been flashed by loads of cameras in France because of the ridiculous speed regime there and one or two in Belgian motorway ‘roadworks’ last Summer with a Brit reg car so might just be a Dutch thing.While maybe the French at least are still applying lots of discretion in that regard.Which isn’t surprising assuming the local population doesn’t want to either spend a large part of their lives just getting from A to B or getting nicked continuously to the point of probably losing their licence in a week let alone all the aggro and expense of finding drivers through the DVLA data system.
jund24:
Took my car over the channel for a visit to The Netherlands over the New Year. I have come home to be greeted by two speeding tickets
89kmh in an 80kmh zone - €64
114kmh in a 100kmh zone - €114
I’ve got a couple queries about this.
I’ve driven a lot quicker through Europe before and was under the assumption that tickets from abroad can’t be traced to UK owners. However on a bit of research maybe this changed from my last visit [emoji848]
I am going to pay these tickets (maybe, depending on replies [emoji23]) but what would the outcome be if I just ignored these tickets? I never go on plane to Holland anyway so my passport never gets scanned. Also would it be as easy as taking a different car to avoid being stopped there next time?
Also the tickets came pretty sharpish as I also forgot to pay Dartford crossing on the way back and I’m still waiting for that letter [emoji1751][emoji3603] but the ones from Netherlands have arrived already.
All in all a successful trip [emoji2957]
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Firstly double check with DVLA/Dutch authorities that it’s not a scam and if not might as well pay it to get it out of the way and look on the bright side at least it hasn’t reached the stage of cross border licence penalties.As for the use of the cross border data base it was introduced recently although luckily I didn’t hear anything having been flashed by loads of cameras in France because of the ridiculous speed regime there and one or two in Belgian motorway ‘roadworks’ last Summer with a Brit reg car so might just be a Dutch thing.While maybe the French at least are still applying lots of discretion in that regard.Which isn’t surprising assuming the local population doesn’t want to either spend a large part of their lives just getting from A to B or getting nicked continuously to the point of probably losing their licence in a week let alone all the aggro and expense of finding drivers through the DVLA data system.
Pay up they are real…IF you don’t they sell the debt to a collection company here !
A lad on the motorhome website I read got caught last year and ignored them, he has now paid over £500 to the courts for the unpaid debt…
They can get details from DVLC but the Brits cannot get info from European countries. Personally i think DVLC get a kick back or charge a nominal fee to make income, IT STINKS.
3 wheeler:
Pay up they are real…IF you don’t they sell the debt to a collection company here !
A lad on the motorhome website I read got caught last year and ignored them, he has now paid over £500 to the courts for the unpaid debt…
They can get details from DVLC but the Brits cannot get info from European countries. Personally i think DVLC get a kick back or charge a nominal fee to make income, IT STINKS.
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Yes the do sell details,if you can prove you need them.
It’s another revenue stream.
Over the years I’ve had camera flashes several times in France and Spain but never received a ticket.I don’t drive particularly quickly but I have been caught out once or twice.I think if I did get a fine I would pay it.My car is a GB plate and I did wonder if all the offences were stocked up until I got caught red handed and copped for the lot.Maybe if Brexit happens us Brits will get a hard time from the gendarmes!
Its all cross border information now… I drive according to the laws of the land, never get tickets of any kind, and pay my road taxes like everyone else…a lot cheaper than fines. In the old days of ignoring them, when showing a passport at the border, all the info was sent there, so we got nabbed anyway ( in trucks anyway ) or sometimes on the next trip out…only got away with it once, that was when i lost my passport and declared it as stolen. i did get pulled for the offence, but told em it must have been used by the thief…ha ha
Debt collection company buys the debt, they’ve effectively paid it off for you. Your origional contract would be with the Dutch authorities not some two bit chancer outfit trying it on.
The only people who have any clout on your doorstep are the police (with a search or an arrest warrant), the HMRC/VAT man, a certificated bailiff or a high court enforcement officer.
sounds great, but the additional cost of a HCEO would be borne by the recipient and or bailiffs fees and i think foreigners are more likely to follow it through especially as its a government/police/enforcement official that instigated it and not a council official where you could think about ignoring it.
Don’t ignore it, eat humble pie and pay up.
The Dutchies are quick off the mark for speeding tickets with little or no allowance.
I had to pay 24 Euro for 133kmh in a 130kmh zone!
They will come after you…
Keep smiling
Paul
I got nabbed twice in as many days in Germany last August for 85 km/h in a 70 limit or thereabouts. Both were very short 70 limit zones and I failed to notice the plain grey cameras. One cost me €20, the other €30, oddly turning up 6 weeks after the first.
I paid up promptly, just grateful to avoid any points hiked insurance premium etc.
In the old days of ignoring them, when showing a passport at the border, all the info was sent there, so we got nabbed anyway ( in trucks anyway ) or sometimes on the next trip out…only got away with it once, that was when i lost my passport and declared it as stolen. i did get pulled for the offence, but told em it must have been used by the thief…ha ha