Can a driver get points and a fine,if followed by a marked police car,pulled over,and 2 cops say going over 30mph,but they had no way of measuring the speed,and no equipment was fitted in the car to measure the speed,apart from the speedometer,as in every car.It was their word.One of his headlights was blown too.This is not a truck,but in a car,at 3 am,on an empty road to work.
It’s debatable,The Police driver has to ask his colleague to act as a witness and watch his speedometer and mileometer,what he sees then becomes evidence.It’s something that you should contest in court rather than accept as a fixed penalty.
As most speedos are clocked 5 miles over the speed shown 50 mph on speedo is 45 mph It would be very hard to take it to court
toby1234abc:
It was their word.
Who do you think the court’s going to believe, them or your mate?
Court would take police evidence.Heard convictions with a radar device can be overturned if the machine has not been calibrated at the beginning of the officers shift,to check the accuracy against a wall.Didnt a trucker get done for perverting the course of justice,by waving to oncoming traffic,to warn of a speed check,went to court,won it.As could have been waving and flashing headlights for other reasons.
johnharry:
As most speedos are clocked 5 miles over the speed shown 50 mph on speedo is 45 mph It would be very hard to take it to court
the speed gun is in your favor mate trust me on that, don’t no by how much but it is in your favor
Deathstar:
It’s debatable,The Police driver has to ask his colleague to act as a witness and watch his speedometer and mileometer,what he sees then becomes evidence.It’s something that you should contest in court rather than accept as a fixed penalty.
in some cars there’s a little box that reads the speed but i have seen officers stop cars for speeding and show them the evidence and show them how fast they was going, so f i was you i would contest it
As far as i remember the law is (not sure if only in scotland or down there 2) a car has to follow at a steady speed for 1 mile before they can charge you. If its not a traffic car ask for proof of the speedo calibration. Traffic cars get done on a regular basis because of this, panda cars dont usually get checked so much
If they have no evidence, and its just their word i’d refuse the fixed penality and chances are prob not go to court.
Ive been pulled twice by cops, not traffic police for speeding, and both times i refused to admit i was speeding, they kept on pressuring me and in the end i got a warning. I imagine if i’d have admitted it i would be getting a fixed penality and three points.
When it comes down to it, i doubt they want to stand up in court with no evidence, even though the evidence of two policemen holds a lot of weight a decent lawyer prob rip them to shreads and i don’t thnk many are up for that, seems a waste of time, unless its for extreme speeds.
My mate got pulled by two normal coppers for running a red light, he denied doing it, he told me he didn’t do it and refused a fixed penality, it went to court. When it went to court the police didn’t send the two policeman who claim to have witnessed him running the red light, instead they sent two others to read out a statement, his lawyer ripped them to shreads and he was found not guilty.
from all the advise im getting … from getting flashed by a camera…35 in a 30 .always ask for proof… calibration certs etc… surely they have to prove you were speeding… no physical proof then no case… this is only my opinion might not be how it is …good luck with it …
toby1234abc:
Can a driver get points and a fine,if followed by a marked police car,pulled over,and 2 cops say going over 30mph,but they had no way of measuring the speed,and no equipment was fitted in the car to measure the speed,apart from the speedometer,as in every car.It was their word.One of his headlights was blown too.This is not a truck,but in a car,at 3 am,on an empty road to work.
Very generally the answer to this is yes you can be found guilty for this scenario. The Police officers evidence that he thought you where speeding is the primary evidence and only needs to be corroborated by his speedo. If its a case of arguing over 1 or 2mph then you may have an argument, if its 10mph over or something like that then you’ll have no chance.
Mike-C:
toby1234abc:
Can a driver get points and a fine,if followed by a marked police car,pulled over,and 2 cops say going over 30mph,but they had no way of measuring the speed,and no equipment was fitted in the car to measure the speed,apart from the speedometer,as in every car.It was their word.One of his headlights was blown too.This is not a truck,but in a car,at 3 am,on an empty road to work.Very generally the answer to this is yes you can be found guilty for this scenario. The Police officers evidence that he thought you where speeding is the primary evidence and only needs to be corroborated by his speedo. If its a case of arguing over 1 or 2mph then you may have an argument, if its 10mph over or something like that then you’ll have no chance.
I was on a ex police motorbike yesterday i noticed the speedo was calibrated properly and had a serial number and stuff on it stating calibration and time. So i guess will be the same with most traffic cars and bikes.
Saying that traffic cars likely to have the whole works in them anyways, to get physical evidence of speeding.
Normal plod i’d argue my point, and chances are nothing would happen from it.
Kenny1975:
Normal plod i’d argue my point, and chances are nothing would happen from it.
Agreed - it would have to be ‘significant’ speeding for a case to be upheld
I wouldn’t be so sure that the panda has not got a calibrated speedometer. After all if you are going to rip all the wiring apart to fit blue lights, radios, aerials and sirens, what is so difficult about wiring in a calibrated clock.
I certainly wouldn’t just accept a fixed penalty though if I thought it was only just over 30mph. Call their bluff, go to court with a hotshot lawman.
Normally police would not bother until 40mph and above in any case. The speedo in the panda will either be factory fitted and calibrated or if not then the panda drivers would get a traffic officer to check the accuracy of the speedo against a radar gun which will have been checked against the traffic car which will have been calibrated…
If being followed you can get prosecuated if being followed for only 0.2 miles and slightly less in a town.