NO.
I noticed on that stretch of A1, that every drivers are exactly the same. When they see the sign “Speed limit for safety” they know, that it’s some stupid H&S mumbo jumbo and that there is no reason for the speed limit. And then they speed up again. 
Btw: do H&S people really think that if I see no reason for speed limit and they put a sign “speed limit for safety” I suddenly start to see that limit as actually having some sense?
All speed limits are for the safety of the numpiest drivers to cope with
until the general standard of driving for all drivers is improved then we will continue to see lower limits posted than what most drivers can cope with safely
It’s like the teacher in a class saying that all pupils will learn at a slower rate because 2 out of the 30 are slow learners and the rules state that all must be treated the same 
Possibly there is some sense! I feel fairly sure its not there just to ■■■■ you off. Maybe traffic crossing the carriageway, or there could have been a history of accidents at a junction. It might be an excessive distance before and after the hazard but there will be a reason for it. The cost of road markings and signage is also a good reason not to impose a limit where it’s not necessary.
Yeah, but my point is about the meaning of the sing. Why they don’t write “Speed limit due to dangerous junction/due to roadworks on the bridge underneath/due to wild animals crossing very often” etc etc
I am only picking that writing “for safety” means absolutely nothing to someone who wonders why this speed limit is there.
Also, giving out the real reason can have educative purpose: the driver then can think “ok, so there was speed limit because someone was working under the bridge, I could not see them, but by slowing down I helped their safety, so that has sense, I will stick to the limit more” while writing just “safety” brings exactly opposite reaction “what the load of ■■■■■■■■, they can’t even give a real reason for that speed limit” 
A lot of reduced speed limits and traffic calming measures are done to use up council budgets rather than actually make things ‘safer’
ajt:
A lot of reduced speed limits and traffic calming measures are done to use up council budgets rather than actually make things ‘safer’
Orys is talking about the A1, its not the councils that set the speed limits on that road, so it’s probably not just to use up excess budget. I think it’s the Highways Agency that sets the speed limits on the motorway and trunk road network (up to 70mph), and it is for those authorities to decide what is the most appropriate speed limit for the sections of roads they assess based upon local considerations and circumstances. This would usually reflect factors such as accident history, traffic flows, road traffic mix, levels of adjacent development and road geometry. They can set speed limits from 20 mph to 70 mph inclusive but only in increments of 10mph.
For safety means what it says. It means the limit is there to ensure somebody’s safety. maybe yours maybe somebody else’s, and I feel sure the next time you drive along this stretch of road and look for the hazards you will possibly understand why its in place, its most probably not just H&S pish. If there is a 40 or 50mph speed restriction then it must be signed to a minimum standard. In addition to signing at the beginning of the speed limit, traffic authorities must also place speed limit repeater signs at regular intervals along the length of road being enforced. That’s it, there really is no need to explain why its there, they don’t have to say it’s for safety or anything else. Temporary speed restrictions signs are normally accompanied by signs explaining why the restriction is in place, however I don’t believe those to be mandatory either.
steptoe:
For safety means what it says. It means the limit is there to ensure somebody’s safety. maybe yours maybe somebody else’s, and I feel sure the next time you drive along this stretch of road and look for the hazards you will possibly understand why its in place, its most probably not just H&S pish. If there is a 40 or 50mph speed restriction then it must be signed to a minimum standard. In addition to signing at the beginning of the speed limit, traffic authorities must also place speed limit repeater signs at regular intervals along the length of road being enforced. That’s it, there really is no need to explain why its there, they don’t have to say it’s for safety or anything else. Temporary speed restrictions signs are normally accompanied by signs explaining why the restriction is in place, however I don’t believe those to be mandatory either.
It’s there for weeks now, and I can’t see any hazard: some traffic cones scattered on the hard shoulder and junction, same as hundred others on dual carriage roads.
I am not saying that this speed limit is wrong though, there might be some danger I can’t see.
My point is: if they bother to put a sign giving a reason of the speed limit, can’t they just put the real reson instead of wasting the sign on something which brings nothing?
orys:
steptoe:
For safety means what it says. It means the limit is there to ensure somebody’s safety. maybe yours maybe somebody else’s, and I feel sure the next time you drive along this stretch of road and look for the hazards you will possibly understand why its in place, its most probably not just H&S pish. If there is a 40 or 50mph speed restriction then it must be signed to a minimum standard. In addition to signing at the beginning of the speed limit, traffic authorities must also place speed limit repeater signs at regular intervals along the length of road being enforced. That’s it, there really is no need to explain why its there, they don’t have to say it’s for safety or anything else. Temporary speed restrictions signs are normally accompanied by signs explaining why the restriction is in place, however I don’t believe those to be mandatory either.It’s there for weeks now, and I can’t see any hazard: some traffic cones scattered on the hard shoulder and junction, same as hundred others on dual carriage roads.
I am not saying that this speed limit is wrong though, there might be some danger I can’t see.
My point is: if they bother to put a sign giving a reason of the speed limit, can’t they just put the real reson instead of wasting the sign on something which brings nothing?
Maybe if they explained everything you would need to park up for 10 minuets to read the sign.
It always amuses me when you are following a lorry up or down the A1 at 56mph and they get to Elkesley and jump on the brakes to 50mph for 2 miles 
steptoe:
That would be extremelly safe if everyone slowed to 0
So it’s win-win
Wheel Nut:
It always amuses me when you are following a lorry up or down the A1 at 56mph and they get to Elkesley and jump on the brakes to 50mph for 2 miles
Why does this amuse you? 
Wheel Nut:
It always amuses me when you are following a lorry up or down the A1 at 56mph and they get to Elkesley and jump on the brakes to 50mph for 2 miles
I was trying to remember the name of that place when I was writing a reply earlier, shouldnt they be doing 50 there anyway?
stick some cones either side of the road and you can guarantee someone will slow to 30mph until the cones disappear even if there is no reduced speed limit
Easy solution to speeders i reckon, just line the entire road network with traffic cones
steptoe:
Wheel Nut:
It always amuses me when you are following a lorry up or down the A1 at 56mph and they get to Elkesley and jump on the brakes to 50mph for 2 milesI was trying to remember the name of that place when I was writing a reply earlier,
Eggs actly, and all the way down the A1