wing-nut:
Recently did a traffic light course, lights changed to amber right on white line and [zb] trailer followed me through on red.
£85 and 4 hours of total BS but at least I’ve still got clean licence.
Most people were there for mobile phone use.
Got carved the other day by some bimbo in daddy’s Range Rover on her mobile 
Radar19:
Conor:
wing-nut:
Most people were there for mobile phone use.I’d get kicked off that one. “Here’s an in depth study by two of the worlds leading universities which proves using mobile phones doesn’t increase the number of accidents”.
Can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not.
Not sarcastic. The studies were done by the London School of Economics and Carnegie Mellon universities. They analysed accident data from across the entire USA over several months in the hour pre-and post 9pm when mobile phone networks went onto free calls and the number of calls increased. There was no increase in accident rates despite the increase in mobile phone use spiking.
There are many cases when accidents which have been reported as the driver being on the phone have turned out not to be the case because whilst they had been using their phone it had been in the minutes running up to the accident, not at the actual time the accident took place.
At some point I expect that like speeding where the police were actually forced to admit that in 95% of accidents speed was not the contributory factor despite the claims they consistently make to the contrary, it’ll all be revealed to be about emptying drivers wallets. And like that admission with speeding it’ll get a few lines in the press and be forgotten about.
In Scotland the awareness course is not an option so now I only speed in England 
I’m on my half mark on bottle !
But … Wtf is the question ?
You sped, got caught… Naughty !!
So :
1 . 3 Pts and a fine. chance it will affect your insurance and employability
Or
4hrs off sitting and listening and still having a clean licence ?
Hmm let me NOT think about that one ! And you really have to ask?
Q should be why did I speed in first place ■■?
dcgpx:
I’m on my half mark on bottle !But … Wtf is the question ?
You sped, got caught… Naughty !!
So :
1 . 3 Pts and a fine. chance it will affect your insurance and employability
Or
4hrs off sitting and listening and still having a clean licence ?
Hmm let me NOT think about that one ! And you really have to ask?
Q should be why did I speed in first place ■■?
Whats in the bottle? Rubbing alcohol?
Shhh ! It’s good stuff my nan says I like!
wing-nut:
Recently did a traffic light course, lights changed to amber right on white line and [zb] trailer followed me through on red.
£85 and 4 hours of total BS but at least I’ve still got clean licence.
Most people were there for mobile phone use.
I wonder if in the future a third option might be added… “Ditch the damned phone”, “Attend the course” or “take the fine and points”… 
Santa:
I have done it and it wasn’t BS. Take it as an opportunity to educate a few car drivers.
Fully agree.
I was the only trucker on my course, and the ignorance of car drivers about truck speed limits, (Before last April), and other factors was mind boggling!
I did find the SAC quite good, all down to a good instructor, the owner of a large driving school.
Whether it’s good or bad, it’s got to be better, and cheaper, than the ton and 3 points!
The irony is that the camera vans are funded by the safety camera partnerships, which in turn are self funded by the revenue generated by the speed awareness courses, so if every guilty driver opted to take the fine/points instead of the SAC, there would be less people attending the courses, & the SCP’s would run out of money and not be able to operate the camera vans etc. Which hypothetically would in the long term, reduce the number of drivers caught speeding.
And for the record I have a clean licence, and have never been court speeding