South Wales Hauliers sixties and seventies onwards (Part 1)

DEANB:
T.D.Williams Foden.

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This was driven by the German ,it’s pictured here with a sliding tilt trailer most prob loaded or just tipped coil from port talbot

This is not a South Wales wagon but it did go down there once.AYH 701H was a twin steer Mandator,home made by A E Evans from a Mammoth Major at their Barking depot in 1969,BMX 746H was another one built for running on five axles for 32 t running.They were both used almost exclusively on North Sea Gas condensate from BP on Spurn Head East Yorks to the NCB refinery at Wath on Dearne Rrotherham.
We only had three artics at Sheffield so with me being next in line I was always transferred off a MK3 or MK5 Mammoth Major onto an artic when required.One day I tipped AYH 701 H fleet 161 at Wath on Dearne,rang in and was told to reload gas oil for Cwm coking plant at Llantwit Fardre,a regular job for us,but not for this particular tractor unit.
After tipping at Cwm I washed out there with a hot water hose and ran to BP Baglan Bay to reload Styrene for Doverstrand at Stallingborough. The wagon was immediately surrounded by amazed Wincanton,Coastal Roadways and Hemphill drivers,disbelieving I’d run all the way from Sheffield with it.Wincanton were running Big Js and Coastal ERF “A” Series at that time,1970,and Hemphill driver had a F88 I think.
Wharever they thought of it was irrelevant to me,a MK5 8-legger or artic beat a MK3 any time and the money was decent.This was in summer 1970 when tilt cabs had been ont road for 4 years,A E Evans didn’t throw owt away,a bit like Rosser. :laughing:
The photo of it and others are courtesy of POD Robinson …
By the way,does anybody remember the café near Cwm,ont r/h side going towards it? It had sawdust ont floor.I can’t remember the name of it. Also when we loaded crude benzene at Bedwas it was down a steep hill,just room for one wagon.It was controlled by a bloke with a red and green flag at the top.So when yer MK3 were loaded,it was a case of select crawler,look for green flag and give it some welly to weighbridge.Happy days or what? :smiley:

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Hi Chris,
The llantwit fadre cafe you refer to was probably musto’s? It’s a large filling station and Chinese restaurant now.i vaguely recall the place,was very popular back then.the original road that you would have used has been bypassed,around 5 years ago now.its even got stupid expensive rat and field mice bridges!
Regards andrew.

pete 359:
Hi Chris,
The llantwit fadre cafe you refer to was probably musto’s? It’s a large filling station and Chinese restaurant now.i vaguely recall the place,was very popular back then.the original road that you would have used has been bypassed,around 5 years ago now.its even got stupid expensive rat and field mice bridges!
Regards andrew.

Yes,that will be the one.Always full of tippers,very sludgy parking area hence the sawdust ont floor.Decent food though.
I remember going to Cwm with gas oil one day and there was a longer than usual queue for the weighbridge.It was only a short bridge at the time - I think it was rebuilt longer - so artic drivers had to drop their trailers,including removing suzies.A driver had pulled off his loaded trailer to weigh and forgot to wind legs down and it had rendered the bridge u/s.Anyway one of the boiler plant men came and fetched me out of the queue,explaining he’d dip the load no problem.I remember one driver int queue asked if I were summat special and plant man said “we can dip gas oil but not effin coke”.
I’ve no idea where the tippers went to weigh unless there was another bridge on site.

Hi Andrew I just pm you I just remembered what we were talking about earlier

Hi ANDREW,YOU ARE RIGHT IT WAS MUSTOES,I WAS IN THERE ONCE AND WE HAD A HEAVY SHOWER THE NEXT THING WAS WATER POURING THROUGH THE ROOF THEY MOVED EVERYTHING OFF THE TOP SHELF UNDER THE COUNTER.ANOTHER TIME THEY WERE SHORT OF WATER SO THEY STOPPED A CONCRETE MIXER TRUCK FOR SOME WATER TO FILL THE BOILER.

derrick:
Hi ANDREW,YOU ARE RIGHT IT WAS MUSTOES,I WAS IN THERE ONCE AND WE HAD A HEAVY SHOWER THE NEXT THING WAS WATER POURING THROUGH THE ROOF THEY MOVED EVERYTHING OFF THE TOP SHELF UNDER THE COUNTER.ANOTHER TIME THEY WERE SHORT OF WATER SO THEY STOPPED A CONCRETE MIXER TRUCK FOR SOME WATER TO FILL THE BOILER.

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pERFection14:
The first ford transcontinental glyn John transport had was driven by Norman bailey and apparently was fitted with a 335 ■■■■■■■■
At the time he used to complain that he was only allowed to go from Treforest to Penrith in one shift because the unions said you were only allowed to drive something like 431kms a day
I may be wrong about the mileage but I know it was something around that figure

If your vehicle was fitted with a tachograph your mileage was not restricted.If not with a tachograph fitted your daily mileage was 450km/280 miles.I had a Marathon and the tacho was taken out so I could load out of Shell at Stanlow - the petrol side that is,the chemical side was not involved.I never took any notice of that daft restriction,I was once stopped going up A465 Blackrock for a log book check and my mileage had already been exceeded that shift. I was not challenged by the ministry bloke and I never heard of any other driver being penalised either.This was in 1978…

Hi all,
Courtesy of Norman Corcoran.A T.D.Williams roadtrain.

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V.B.Davies Crusader.

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These two parked up at Seaham Harbour seafront tonight, no doubt having a well earned break.

Hi all,
DeanB,thank you so very Much.thats long serving driiver Ron Rees at the helm of XWN 671T.marathon looks fairly new? I see Tony Rees,ron’s son regularly,so I will show him the photo.
I am guessing the Gwynedd shipping MAN’s are loaded with Welsh coil for myking (Nissan) at washington.
Stumbled across this image earlier,A Cardiff BRS Albion Clydesdale? Lance will know what it is, m8!

Hi all,
Still hard at work with M.D.

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I’ve seen Tonteg mentioned on here. I remember going up that hill with an empty AEC MK3 around 1970 but can’t recall where to.Was there a coking plant in that area?
Also I once did a load of toluene out of Baglan Bay to Ferndale,Porter Paints. I went via Porth int fog :open_mouth: with me Mandator round some really sharp bends and got to within 100 yards of the place,now in bright sunshine, only to find a bridge with a 7 ton weight limit.Apparantly the way to go was Glyneath-Hirwaun-Aberdare.I didn’t turn round though,went over the bridge but went back empty via Aberdare.
Coastal Roadways driver told me he always went via Porth and zb the bridge. :grimacing:

Chris Webb:
I’ve seen Tonteg mentioned on here. I remember going up that hill with an empty AEC MK3 around 1970 but can’t recall where to.Was there a coking plant in that area?
Also I once did a load of toluene out of Baglan Bay to Ferndale,Porter Paints. I went via Porth int fog :open_mouth: with me Mandator round some really sharp bends and got to within 100 yards of the place,now in bright sunshine, only to find a bridge with a 7 ton weight limit.Apparantly the way to go was Glyneath-Hirwaun-Aberdare.I didn’t turn round though,went over the bridge but went back empty via Aberdare.
Coastal Roadways driver told me he always went via Porth and zb the bridge. :grimacing:

Hi Chris you would have been going to cwm coking works ,it’s gone now ,it was quite busy years ago cheers John

smallcoal:

Chris Webb:
I’ve seen Tonteg mentioned on here. I remember going up that hill with an empty AEC MK3 around 1970 but can’t recall where to.Was there a coking plant in that area?
Also I once did a load of toluene out of Baglan Bay to Ferndale,Porter Paints. I went via Porth int fog :open_mouth: with me Mandator round some really sharp bends and got to within 100 yards of the place,now in bright sunshine, only to find a bridge with a 7 ton weight limit.Apparantly the way to go was Glyneath-Hirwaun-Aberdare.I didn’t turn round though,went over the bridge but went back empty via Aberdare.
Coastal Roadways driver told me he always went via Porth and zb the bridge. :grimacing:

Hi Chris you would have been going to cwm coking works ,it’s gone now ,it was quite busy years ago cheers John

Hi John.
I always went to Cwm via Cardiff and the roundabout near Llantrisant.The only other coking plants I loaded out of were Bedwas,Nantgarw,GKN Eastmoors and SCOW.Could it have been Nantgarw? It was 1970.

Chris Webb:

smallcoal:

Chris Webb:
I’ve seen Tonteg mentioned on here. I remember going up that hill with an empty AEC MK3 around 1970 but can’t recall where to.Was there a coking plant in that area?
Also I once did a load of toluene out of Baglan Bay to Ferndale,Porter Paints. I went via Porth int fog :open_mouth: with me Mandator round some really sharp bends and got to within 100 yards of the place,now in bright sunshine, only to find a bridge with a 7 ton weight limit.Apparantly the way to go was Glyneath-Hirwaun-Aberdare.I didn’t turn round though,went over the bridge but went back empty via Aberdare.
Coastal Roadways driver told me he always went via Porth and zb the bridge. :grimacing:

Hi Chris you would have been going to cwm coking works ,it’s gone now ,it was quite busy years ago cheers John

Hi John.
I always went to Cwm via Cardiff and the roundabout near Llantrisant.The only other coking plants I loaded out of were Bedwas,Nantgarw,GKN Eastmoors and SCOW.Could it have been Nantgarw? It was 1970.

Hi Chris that is Deffo cwm if you went that way llantrisant follow rd past garage and motel by bend in rd turn left it up by there or you could come up power station hill from treforestt

Hi all

pete 359:
Hi all

Was that F7 a blow or ■■■■ bulker ?