given my run sheet with my SECURITY SEAL. checker records security seal number, FITS it to rear doors of trailer and then i have to record number onto run sheet. i then leave the yard with my EMPTY trailer to pick up my load up.
i can understand why they fit security seals but i really cant see the point in fitting them to a empty trailer .
i know they have these security procedures for a reason but surely theres got to be a bit of common sense used as well
Could be to stop you doing a shifty load ?
We used to have to do it when we were at B&Q the thing is if its sealed when you leave the yard and the same seal on it when you get to the next place you are protected knowing you didnt steal anything if anythings gone missing.
You don’t work for Debenhams / DHL / Excel by any chance? We have the same silly procedures.
Paul.
jammymutt:
We used to have to do it when we were at B&Q the thing is if its sealed when you leave the yard and the same seal on it when you get to the next place you are protected knowing you didnt steal anything if anythings gone missing.
From an empty traler?
Suedehead:
jammymutt:
We used to have to do it when we were at B&Q the thing is if its sealed when you leave the yard and the same seal on it when you get to the next place you are protected knowing you didnt steal anything if anythings gone missing.From an empty traler?
thats what im trying to say , whats the point in sealing a empty trailer 
could it be so they know if there is anybody in the trailer? security these days want to know everything, if it’s sealed you can’t have anybody hiding in the trailer when you go into these sites. Wouldn’t be the first time somebody has hidden on a trailer to get into a site and either hide in the warehouse then do an inside job or jump in a truck and drive out of the depot with the goods. Just a thought,
When I was on night trunking I would carry a bunch of seals in the cab. When I was loaded I would put the seal on and write the number on the paperwork. When I arrived at the destination, I would break the seal, open the doors and back up to the bay. The broken seal and the paperwork was then handed to the supervisor who duly checked it matched the number on the paperwork. I did this for several years 
Not once did anyone question this proceedure. I carried laptops and desktop computers in the days when they cost at least a grand a piece, the value of the load varied between £90k and up to £250k on the run up to Christmas.
Tiger.
Like so many of these “silly” rules they are there because it’s easier to have a blanket instruction than to allow exceptions.
The minimum wage renta-a-cop on the gate, for whom english may not be his first language, has to be briefed in the simplest possible terms. So he is told ALL trailers are sealed - NO exeptions.
Can be funny when you go out with a rigid and they are stunped because you don’t have a trailer number though:)
Fastrantiger:
When I was on night trunking I would carry a bunch of seals in the cab. When I was loaded I would put the seal on and write the number on the paperwork. When I arrived at the destination, I would break the seal, open the doors and back up to the bay. The broken seal and the paperwork was then handed to the supervisor who duly checked it matched the number on the paperwork. I did this for several yearsTiger.
Surely if the load was that valuable there would have been some sort security at said warehouse? . . .no search on the way out then - how many laptops did you have away ?
well, if i take an empty container into Seaforth Dock in Liverpool, it must be sealed before they will allow it in 
on another note, i did some agency work a few years ago for a company on Magna Park in Lutterworth, it was delivering computer products to PC World stores.
they told me that the trailer MUST be sealed at all times, the seal is checked at delivery point, after delivery, the store manager picks any of the remaining seals i have and writes the number on the delivery notes, so on and so forth.
So, at he gatehouse on the way out of the yard, the security guard handed me 5 seals and picked out one for the first delivery, i asked him where the rest of the seal were, he said that was it 
i queried the number of seals again and the security guard told me that as long as it was sealed it was fine and nobody could break into the trailer and steal anything
only thing was, the trailer was a curtainsider
i duly sealed the back doors as told, then opened the side up and asked him what he wanted out of the back of the “sealed” trailer
The last time I put a seal on the back of a trailer I was fined by the RSPCA.
only thing was, the trailer was a curtainsider
i duly sealed the back doors as told, then opened the side up and asked him what he wanted out of the back of the “sealed” trailer
I had exactly the same set to with HMCustoms, when carrying a load under bond.
They insisted that i was going direct to bond at southampton, I insisted I was doing 4 more pick ups and tipping in bradford.
as frank sinatra said " I did it my way" .
edited to add
the company I work for now used to insist on locks , seals and alarms set on empty trailers. But when I used to carry tobacco for another company they didn’t even lock the trailer doors. Came down the A1 from newcastle with trailer shutter open all the way to leeds.
ady1:
Suedehead:
jammymutt:
We used to have to do it when we were at B&Q the thing is if its sealed when you leave the yard and the same seal on it when you get to the next place you are protected knowing you didnt steal anything if anythings gone missing.From an empty traler?
thats what im trying to say , whats the point in sealing a empty trailer
its like jammy said, it covers your arse if something goes missing
ie they cant say your mate put it in the trailer and you took it out en route
Suedehead:
Fastrantiger:
When I was on night trunking I would carry a bunch of seals in the cab. When I was loaded I would put the seal on and write the number on the paperwork. When I arrived at the destination, I would break the seal, open the doors and back up to the bay. The broken seal and the paperwork was then handed to the supervisor who duly checked it matched the number on the paperwork. I did this for several yearsTiger.
Surely if the load was that valuable there would have been some sort security at said warehouse? . . .no search on the way out then - how many laptops did you have away ?
The value of the load was played down, a curtainsider was used, and I varied my route, never told anyone what route I was taking, I had a good boss that trusted me. I was made redundant in favour of the job being contracted out, then the problems began… big time 
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Tiger
Also if you are leaving a site where trailers could be leaving with high value loads on I guess if you put a seal on every trrailer it makes it harder for anyone to tell whats loaded and whats not.
I was stopped in Calais in the Heartbeat monitor and questioned why I had a pack of new security seals on the step. We seal every trailer that goes through the port, either way to cover our arses.
The stupid tart who was trying to make me look guilty needs to mind her own business unless it is now illegal for a mere driver to fit a seal.
Suedehead:
Could be to stop you doing a shifty load ?
Exactly. Here’s an example as to why numerous companies I have worked for sealed empty trailers before trips. Lets say you do a regular run where you leave the depot with an empty trailer unsealed, and travel to the same destination for loading. What’s to stop you from arranging an an unauthorised load for yourself, that can be collected and delivered whilst en route to your original authorised collection address. I do realise this would be harder to do now with larger companies that use Isotrak etc, but still possible with companies that don’t invest heavily on tracking systems. Also whilst working on containers years ago, we had a guy sacked for using a 20ft box to collect household goods from a retail park for his new house within working hours.
The last time I put a seal on the back of a trailer I was fined by the RSPCA.
ha ha 
nice one…
and i was being chased by a few angry canadians with big clubs…
David H:
The last time I put a seal on the back of a trailer I was fined by the RSPCA.
David…David, having a Tommy Cooper moment?
Not bad though!