do up your curtain buckles on a curtainsider? Not if you’re unfortunate enough to have one of these
and they still get loose and flap about
tight curtains are a thing of the past thanks to these blody things 
■■■■ that. Tie them back and do a rope and sheet job… 
It doesn’t matter whether teardrop or conventional, trailers are so light nowadays the first bit of camber that twists it and you can have several buckles in a row pop out from the side raves.
Huhhhh? Lol
Right i think i get that, you tighen the middle one, then the one 1/4 of the way in from the from, then the one 1/4 of the way in from the back, then do the first one at the front then do up the rest working to the back?
Strap down forth…so that’s something to do with a bridge then? Or did they mean fourth strap to be tightened?
Your Question :-
When you buckle up your curtains you find that they come loose during your journey and you end up stopping @ some point to re-buckle.
The Answer :-
Strap your load with the internals, then when you buckle up your curtains they won’t come loose as the roof is held down by the internal straps.
If your running with an empty just use a couple of internals on each side.
Its not ROCKET SCIENCE.
i find if you tie down the n/s from front to rear and the o/s from rear to front they dont slacken off as much
lizard:
Your Question :-
When you buckle up your curtains you find that they come loose during your journey and you end up stopping @ some point to re-buckle.The Answer :-
Strap your load with the internals, then when you buckle up your curtains they won’t come loose as the roof is held down by the internal straps.
If your running with an empty just use a couple of internals on each side.Its not ROCKET SCIENCE.
So how come I had to stop today? All internals used, evenly spaced and tight when I set off, 3 miles down the road, 4 o/s middle buckles unhooked . Happens mainly to trailers without posts including but not limited to those with Armor-sheet curtains. It’s not just the buckles, the internals can unhook too when attached to the raves. It doesn’t matter which way you tighten, even going back and forth and re-doing them, I’ve tightened them down so far I thought they would tear out of the curtain, I’ve trapped curtain between hook and rave and without. I still say it’s down to the skinny trailers, and manufacturers know about it, why else would they fit extra deep hooks on the buckles?
lizard:
Your Question :-
When you buckle up your curtains you find that they come loose during your journey and you end up stopping @ some point to re-buckle.The Answer :-
Strap your load with the internals, then when you buckle up your curtains they won’t come loose as the roof is held down by the internal straps.
If your running with an empty just use a couple of internals on each side.Its not ROCKET SCIENCE.
You secure your load using internal straps? 
Saaamon:
lizard:
Your Question :-
When you buckle up your curtains you find that they come loose during your journey and you end up stopping @ some point to re-buckle.The Answer :-
Strap your load with the internals, then when you buckle up your curtains they won’t come loose as the roof is held down by the internal straps.
If your running with an empty just use a couple of internals on each side.Its not ROCKET SCIENCE.
You secure your load using internal straps?
depends on the load but yes every load is strapped either with internals rachets
dont you?
lizard:
Saaamon:
lizard:
Your Question :-
When you buckle up your curtains you find that they come loose during your journey and you end up stopping @ some point to re-buckle.The Answer :-
Strap your load with the internals, then when you buckle up your curtains they won’t come loose as the roof is held down by the internal straps.
If your running with an empty just use a couple of internals on each side.Its not ROCKET SCIENCE.
You secure your load using internal straps?
depends on the load but yes every load is strapped either with internals rachets
dont you?
I think internal straps should be banned, they dont work and many drivers and companies think there an acceptable form of load restraint, therefore they dont bother loading pallets in a way the protects the load when secured with rachet straps or rope.
Internals have their uses, granted it’s not always ideal nor do they secure to the bed but we carry lots of stuff, napkins, pop, crackers etc that just get damaged if you try to use ratchets. I once got called a job monkey for using ratchets on a load of bundled racking, I just retorted that I get paid a lot of bananas to do the job properly. I still don’t think the contractor got it.
The one thing I won’t do, is allow just the curtains to hold the load, I’ve seen full loads of pop, Ibc’s, bulk bags on pallets, palletised 250 lire drums, even packs of mdf/chipboard triple stacked 
, all held in place by just gravity. The way I see it is that it’s got nothing to do with being fined by VOSA, killing poor little orphans, blocking Catthorpe or any multitude of what if’s. It’s about getting the stuff to your customers’ destination in the same condition as it was, when despatched, and using common sense to ensure that happens, after all that’s what the customer is paying for.
lizard:
Your Question :-
When you buckle up your curtains you find that they come loose during your journey and you end up stopping @ some point to re-buckle.The Answer :-
Strap your load with the internals, then when you buckle up your curtains they won’t come loose as the roof is held down by the internal straps.
If your running with an empty just use a couple of internals on each side.Its not ROCKET SCIENCE.
if you re-read my post, you will see that i have’nt asked a question. Reading a post properly isnt ROCKET SCIENCE you bell end.
MADBAZ:
The way I see it is that it’s got nothing to do with being fined by VOSA, killing poor little orphans, blocking Catthorpe or any multitude of what if’s. It’s about getting the stuff to your customers’ destination in the same condition as it was, when despatched, and using common sense to ensure that happens, after all that’s what the customer is paying for.
^^^^
THIS
We have just noticed this post, as we are the manufacturers of Teardrop trailers.
I have a few points we would like to clarify.
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Buckles on pillarless trailers are more likely to “bounce” off. This is due to the slight ‘give’ in the cant rail (roof rail) so you will generally find that, if buckles do come loose, they will tend to be in the centre. There is no difference between Teardrop or flat roof versions. The majority of roof rails on pillarless trailer tend to be 200mm thick on a double box section or a tapered design. Both have proven over the years to be the most successful method to be self supporting without excessive give. The only way to completely eliminate the possibility of buckles coming loose is to specify buckleless curtains which have a cable tensioning method - running from front to back. Even if there is any give, this will be spread down the length of the trailer. There are 3 types of rave hook used and these depend on whether there are pull-up lashing rings or not.
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Internal load restraint is a MUST (with a few exceptions) according to VOSA’s new enforcement matrix, brought out in Feb this year. The recommendations have always been that loads are RESTRAINED, not just CONTAINED. Restraint means strapping from rave to rave so that a downward force is applied to maintain contact with the trailer floor. Curtains alone, even with roof mounted straps, are not sufficient and VOSA are already slapping prohibitions on trailers.
More feedback is welcome.
Richard
Don-Bur:
We have just noticed this post, as we are the manufacturers of Teardrop trailers.I have a few points we would like to clarify.
Buckles on pillarless trailers are more likely to “bounce” off. This is due to the slight ‘give’ in the cant rail (roof rail) so you will generally find that, if buckles do come loose, they will tend to be in the centre. There is no difference between Teardrop or flat roof versions. The majority of roof rails on pillarless trailer tend to be 200mm thick on a double box section or a tapered design. Both have proven over the years to be the most successful method to be self supporting without excessive give. The only way to completely eliminate the possibility of buckles coming loose is to specify buckleless curtains which have a cable tensioning method - running from front to back. Even if there is any give, this will be spread down the length of the trailer. There are 3 types of rave hook used and these depend on whether there are pull-up lashing rings or not.
Internal load restraint is a MUST (with a few exceptions) according to VOSA’s new enforcement matrix, brought out in Feb this year. The recommendations have always been that loads are RESTRAINED, not just CONTAINED. Restraint means strapping from rave to rave so that a downward force is applied to maintain contact with the trailer floor. Curtains alone, even with roof mounted straps, are not sufficient and VOSA are already slapping prohibitions on trailers.
More feedback is welcome.
Richard
Been there done that at Asda those trailers are the worst of the lot and the tensioners never get the curtains snugly tight. In fact they cause more trouble than they solve!
Norfolknewbie:
Been there done that at Asda those trailers are the worst of the lot and the tensioners never get the curtains snugly tight. In fact they cause more trouble than they solve!
Don-Bur does not build for Asda. We cannot therefore comment on competitor products or the performance of their features. Without exception, all operators using the Don-Bur buckle-less curtain system have continued to specify it for ease of use, low maintenance and durability.
Saaamon:
lizard:
You secure your load using internal straps?
make sure you do next year, vostapo clamping down bigtime with big fines to go with it! MMTM! 
and on the DCPC course as well! 
and before I forget, Beverley bell as well at A556 weighbridge at lymm yesterday! 
Do these teardrops ever explode?