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A new train connection is opened by DB Schenker. Wrocław - London.
they use european size cars on the route, since the Channel Tunnel - London track allows bigger trains.
It takes 50 hours for this train to come all that way.
It carries mostly car parts and furniture, some deliveries for retail and food so far. I guess prices of Polish food in Tesco should now drop even more 
Especially as Tesco seem to think you should work for them as your own checkout assistant when you’ve finished shopping… no doubt next they’ll have us round the back unloading the lorries for them
Harry Monk:
Especially as Tesco seem to think you should work for them as your own checkout assistant when you’ve finished shopping… no doubt next they’ll have us round the back unloading the lorries for them
at least then it might get done a bit quicker 
Harry Monk:
Especially as Tesco seem to think you should work for them as your own checkout assistant when you’ve finished shopping… no doubt next they’ll have us round the back unloading the lorries for them
every little helps
good that should mean less polish lorries on the uk roads then.
Yeah, as you can guess Polish hauliers aren’t exactly happy bunnies about it. But as for me I am all for combined transport. it’s better for the environment and for the traffic.
orys:
Yeah, as you can guess Polish hauliers aren’t exactly happy bunnies about it. But as for me I am all for combined transport. it’s better for the environment and for the traffic.
i don’t mean to sound negative towards the poles at all its just sometimes its seems ridiculous that amount of eastern European wagons there are.
jessicas dad:
i don’t mean to sound negative towards the poles at all its just sometimes its seems ridiculous that amount of eastern European wagons there are.
That’s because so many goods are produced there and imported. If China was closer, you will have even more Chinese lorries here (and now you just have boxes) 
orys:
Yeah, as you can guess Polish hauliers aren’t exactly happy bunnies about it. But as for me I am all for combined transport. it’s better for the environment and for the traffic.
Hurray we agree! I’m with you all the way on that one.
switchlogic:
Hurray we agree! I’m with you all the way on that one.
That’s second time recently. I am afraid it might be sign that we are getting older, my friend 
orys:
switchlogic:
Hurray we agree! I’m with you all the way on that one.That’s second time recently. I am afraid it might be sign that we are getting older, my friend
Ain’t that the truth. Be time to retire soon!
orys:
jessicas dad:
i don’t mean to sound negative towards the poles at all its just sometimes its seems ridiculous that amount of eastern European wagons there are.That’s because so many goods are produced there and imported. If China was closer, you will have even more Chinese lorries here (and now you just have boxes)
Thats only half the story though. Eastern European trucks, Polish ones included take a very high percentage of goods now between western European countries and have done for some time. Before coming to Canada in 2009 I’d drive from the UK to Switzerland and Germany and whenever loading back for England in either of those countries I’d always be the only UK truck and the other trucks taking loads to England would almost always be from Poland, Lithuania, Slovakia etc and it would seem that many of them would seldom visit their home country but would rather tramp around western Europe only. The problem is of course politics and not the fault of individual drivers doing these jobs. Its just a sad reality that truck drivers and companies in western Europe have largely being forced in to oblivion by government decree. The same will of course happen to Polish truckers and companies once their services become more expensive, as already seems to be happening when for example Willi Betz’s Polish fridge division is already half staffed by Bulgarian drivers on Polish trucks. No doubt Bulgarian drivers will one day be deemed far too expensive when the door is opened to the Turks…pointless rant over! 
robinhood_1984:
Thats only half the story though. Eastern European trucks, Polish ones included take a very high percentage of goods now between western European countries and have done for some time. Before coming to Canada in 2009 I’d drive from the UK to Switzerland and Germany and whenever loading back for England in either of those countries I’d always be the only UK truck and the other trucks taking loads to England would almost always be from Poland, Lithuania, Slovakia etc and it would seem that many of them would seldom visit their home country but would rather tramp around western Europe only.
Yep, this, if I owned a sausage factory and I arranged for someone to take 26 pallets of sausages from the UK to Spain, I would bet the farm that a Pole/Lithuanian/Bulgarian would turn up to load it.
The Blair/Brown Government basically sold us down the river, and that is from a party who supposedly supports the working class.
Harry Monk:
robinhood_1984:
Thats only half the story though. Eastern European trucks, Polish ones included take a very high percentage of goods now between western European countries and have done for some time. Before coming to Canada in 2009 I’d drive from the UK to Switzerland and Germany and whenever loading back for England in either of those countries I’d always be the only UK truck and the other trucks taking loads to England would almost always be from Poland, Lithuania, Slovakia etc and it would seem that many of them would seldom visit their home country but would rather tramp around western Europe only.Yep, this, if I owned a sausage factory and I arranged for someone to take 26 pallets of sausages from the UK to Spain, I would bet the farm that a Pole/Lithuanian/Bulgarian would turn up to load it.
The Blair/Brown Government basically sold us down the river, and that is from a party who supposedly supports the working class.
I cant see it ever happening again and I barely remember those days but I do reminise about when we had the borders and it was all on T-forms etc and a load between the UK and Spain would have undoubtedly being carried by a UK or Spanish truck.
Here in North America they seem hell bent on electronic log books and opening the borders to Mexican trucks…talk about history repeating itself. Question is, as a British driver who does the job more for the sense of adventure than anything else, where the hell do I go next when the job here goes ■■■■ up?
Yeah, but there is a third part of that story Lot of Polish/Lithanian trailers are now pulled by Russians and the sort
orys:
Yeah, but there is a third part of that story
What is the story with this? If a Russian truck with a Russian driver is pulling a Polish trailer, does his trip have to originate or end in Russia or can he just go where ever his company likes and load in Poland for the UK and then load for Germany, then Italy and then Sweden before going back to Russia?
orys:
Yeah, but there is a third part of that story
Well, I am sure that Poles still have unhappy memories of the Russian invasion, so I am sure that you will forgive us if we feel the same way about the Polish invasion… of course, I wouldn’t begin to suggest that our suffering is comparable, but life was still far better for us before the eu opened up to eastern Europe.
robinhood_1984:
What is the story with this? If a Russian truck with a Russian driver is pulling a Polish trailer, does his trip have to originate or end in Russia or can he just go where ever his company likes and load in Poland for the UK and then load for Germany, then Italy and then Sweden before going back to Russia?
It’s about the same story - just as Eastern Europeans carry stuff from/to UK, even more Easternish guys ship stuff to/from Poland ?
The Polish hauliers just shifted from East to West, after Yalta you could think that seeing Poles shifted from East to West is what Britons like
Harry Monk:
Well, I am sure that Poles still have unhappy memories of the Russian invasion, so I am sure that you will forgive us if we feel the same way about the Polish invasion… of course, I wouldn’t begin to suggest that our suffering is comparable, but life was still far better for us before the eu opened up to eastern Europe.
Well, you had much better for 50 years when you stuffed us behind this Iron Courtain, isn’t it now the time for us to have a bit of that “better” as well?
(I am not trying to start a history discusion, just making some jokes and word puns)
orys:
It’s about the same story - just as Eastern Europeans carry stuff from/to UK, even more Easternish guys ship stuff to/from PolandThe Polish hauliers just shifted from East to West, after Yalta you could think that seeing Poles shifted from East to West is what Britons like
I dont think anyone could ever have a problem with a Polish truck operating between Poland and the UK the problem is when the same truck then does work between the UK and Germany or Germany and Spain and so on, displacing the native trucks from each country who dont stand a hope in hell’s chance of ever being able to compete on cost and thats the issue. There is one playing field but its definetely not level, far from it.
I saw an article in one of the “big” newspapers just after the iraq war that was saying there was long term plans for the port at Basra to be used as a container terminal for Western Europe. The ships from the far east would be unloaded there and boxes either put on trains or sent by road so we could see a lot more trains coming through the tunnel in the future. Personally I think this is a long long way off time-wise. The world is shrinking rapidly it would seem, we all want everything yesterday.