Snow and the average car driver

or if those are too pricey, try Kleibar Quadraxers. 3PMSF standard for Alpine conditions, four-season capable…made by a Michelin subsidiary.

Carryfast:

Héraultais:

truckyboy:
motorways should always be cleared efficiently and no drivers should ever be left stranded…other countries always seem to clear its roads efficiently and its services are kept running…why cant we ?

Try telling that to the motorists that spent 24 hrs stranded on the A9 in southern France this week!

But on the other hand didn’t hear anything about the French,German,Swiss and Austrian alpine regions all being cut off from November to March this year or previously.While I’m definitely going to invest in a set of spare wheels fitted with winter tyres for next winter having got fed up with fighting sudden catastrophic under steer at almost every corner even at a crawl and loss of traction when moving away from standstill even in second gear and with the engine just idling,with a typical modern fwd heap on its standard summer tyres.As for much of southern France all it takes is the right ( wrong ) wind direction and surely they’re in the same boat as the average alpine road user needing the same type of kit to stand a chance of keeping moving ?.

South of France is nearer the relatively warm Med, but more important, I`d think, is the altitude. The A75 over the Central Massif is over 1000m and regularly gets snowy. The A6 in the Rhone Valley is much lower and much less likely to be snowy. In the winter I always check the weather before opting for the A75 rather than an alternative.

Franglais:

Carryfast:

Héraultais:

truckyboy:
motorways should always be cleared efficiently and no drivers should ever be left stranded…other countries always seem to clear its roads efficiently and its services are kept running…why cant we ?

Try telling that to the motorists that spent 24 hrs stranded on the A9 in southern France this week!

But on the other hand didn’t hear anything about the French,German,Swiss and Austrian alpine regions all being cut off from November to March this year or previously.While I’m definitely going to invest in a set of spare wheels fitted with winter tyres for next winter having got fed up with fighting sudden catastrophic under steer at almost every corner even at a crawl and loss of traction when moving away from standstill even in second gear and with the engine just idling,with a typical modern fwd heap on its standard summer tyres.As for much of southern France all it takes is the right ( wrong ) wind direction and surely they’re in the same boat as the average alpine road user needing the same type of kit to stand a chance of keeping moving ?.

South of France is nearer the relatively warm Med, but more important, I`d think, is the altitude. The A75 over the Central Massif is over 1000m and regularly gets snowy. The A6 in the Rhone Valley is much lower and much less likely to be snowy. In the winter I always check the weather before opting for the A75 rather than an alternative.

November to March i use Uniroyal winter drive axle tyres on the 4 spare Alocas i have (saves tyre changing and in the workshop swopped in 20 mins or so). These are deep block tread with lugged outer edges. Theyre not the be all, end all answer to snow and ice but a vast improvement over standard tyres on the E/F crossing…

If your not experienced to know where your limit of grip is on your car, and most aren’t because we don’t have enough of it to gain that experience… then surely it’s better to be over cautious than just go for it, lose control, crash, and shut the road? Because then we’d all be like bloody car drivers not driving to the conditions blah blah blah

Rowley010:
If your not experienced to know where your limit of grip is on your car, and most aren’t because we don’t have enough of it to gain that experience… then surely it’s better to be over cautious than just go for it, lose control, crash, and shut the road? Because then we’d all be like bloody car drivers not driving to the conditions blah blah blah

Experience does not really come into it in most accidents in snow or ice ( car or truck ) If you hit ice in a car or a truck and the vehicle starts to skid probably 95% of drivers will probably lose control.

What experience should teach you in these conditions is it best to slow right down and be cautious, leave plenty space from the vehicle in front and be considerate to less experienced drivers by not covering them with spray or frightening the life out of them.

UKtramp:

The-Snowman:
Two words truckman - Black ice

Good chance of it too in sleat!!

coming from the fridge man must be right