I’ve just watched that tv prog about Aylesbury Jail… the prisoners seem to be allowed to smoke indoors, in their cells , which are accessible to anyone else…
But we aren’t allowed to smoke in a company vehicle, or indoors in most public buildings, offices,pubs, etc,etc…
And, on the Police Interceptors programme last week a copper allowed someone that he had sat in the back of his patrol car, to have a ■■■…
Am I missing something ■■?
Oh, by the way, I don’t smoke.
I think they have some bizzare rule that the cell is “their” house… they all ought to be crushing rocks or be on one of those Victorian pointless tasks for hour after hour.
2nd thoughts if we put the prisoners into Staffs hospital - they may think twice about commiting another crime !
Prisoners can’t exactly go outside for an oily rag can they. 
thats thanks to your human rights ,if it was up to me it would be bread and water twice a day in a cell with just a bed and a bucket!
rigga70:
thats thanks to your human rights ,if it was up to me it would be bread and water twice a day in a cell with just a bed and a bucket!
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rigga70:
thats thanks to your human rights ,if it was up to me it would be bread and water twice a day in a cell with just a bed and a bucket!
You wouldn’t be saying that if you’d been banged up.
Some are on remand for a long time, then found not guilty.
some are convicted on shoddy evidence, then released several years later.
Some are scapegoats for greedy bosses.
limeyphil:
rigga70:
thats thanks to your human rights ,if it was up to me it would be bread and water twice a day in a cell with just a bed and a bucket!You wouldn’t be saying that if you’d been banged up.
Some are on remand for a long time, then found not guilty.
some are convicted on shoddy evidence, then released several years later.
Some are scapegoats for greedy bosses.
And some are guilty scum bags who’ve finally got their comeuppance
should send them here
For those not familiar with Joe Arpio, he is the County Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona. He keeps getting re-elected over and over again.
These are some of the reasons why:
Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the “tent city jail” to save Arizona from spending tens of millions of dollars on another expensive prison complex.Inmates sleep in tents!
He has jail meals down to 20 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
He banned smoking and pornographic magazines in the jails, and took away their weightlifting equipment and cut off all but “G” movies. He says: “They’re in jail to pay a debt to society not to build muscles so they can assault innocent people when they leave.”
He started chain gangs to use the inmates to do free work on county and city projects and save taxpayer’s money. Men work in Pink “Clean and Sober” Shirts. Their underwear is also Pink!
Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn’t get sued for discrimination.
He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again but only allows the Disney channel and the weather channel.
When asked why the weather channel, he replied: “So these morons will know how hot it’s gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.”
He cut off coffee because it has zero nutritional value and is therefore a waste of taxpayer money. When the inmates complained, he told them, “This isn’t the Ritz/Carlton. If you don’t like it, don’t come back.”
He also bought the Newt Gingrich lecture series on US history that he pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series that actually tells the truth for a change would be welcome and that it might even explain why 95% of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.
With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record for June 2nd 2009), the Associated Press reported: About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed wire surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.
On the Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing pink boxer shorts were overheard chatting in the tents, where temperatures reached 128 degrees.“This is hell. It feels like we live in a furnace,” said Ernesto Gonzales, an inmate for 2 years with 10 more to go. “It’s inhumane.”
Joe Arpaio, who makes his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic. “Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it’s time for parole, only to go out and commit more crimes so they can come back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things many taxpayers can’t afford to have for themselves.”
The same day he told all the inmates who were complaining of the heat in the tents: “It’s between 120 to 130 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents there too, and they have to walk all day in that sun, wearing full battle gear and getting shot at, and THEY have not committed any crimes, so shut your damned mouths!”
Sheriff Joe was just re-elected for the fourteenth time as Sheriff in Maricopa County, Arizona. -
I’m affraid the above will never happen in this country when there are so many people ready to come up with any excuse for criminals as to why they commit their crimes and defend theirr rights.
I’m not saying the US system is perfect, far from it, but we seem to have gone too far the other way. I’m pretty sure the idea of a penal defence league like the Howard League would be unthinkable in the Deep South.
glekay:
should send them here
For those not familiar with Joe Arpio, he is the County Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona. He keeps getting re-elected over and over again.These are some of the reasons why:
Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the “tent city jail” to save Arizona from spending tens of millions of dollars on another expensive prison complex.Inmates sleep in tents!
He has jail meals down to 20 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
He banned smoking and pornographic magazines in the jails, and took away their weightlifting equipment and cut off all but “G” movies. He says: “They’re in jail to pay a debt to society not to build muscles so they can assault innocent people when they leave.”
He started chain gangs to use the inmates to do free work on county and city projects and save taxpayer’s money. Men work in Pink “Clean and Sober” Shirts. Their underwear is also Pink!
Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn’t get sued for discrimination.
He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again but only allows the Disney channel and the weather channel.
When asked why the weather channel, he replied: “So these morons will know how hot it’s gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.”
He cut off coffee because it has zero nutritional value and is therefore a waste of taxpayer money. When the inmates complained, he told them, “This isn’t the Ritz/Carlton. If you don’t like it, don’t come back.”
He also bought the Newt Gingrich lecture series on US history that he pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series that actually tells the truth for a change would be welcome and that it might even explain why 95% of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.
With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record for June 2nd 2009), the Associated Press reported: About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed wire surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.
On the Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing pink boxer shorts were overheard chatting in the tents, where temperatures reached 128 degrees.“This is hell. It feels like we live in a furnace,” said Ernesto Gonzales, an inmate for 2 years with 10 more to go. “It’s inhumane.”
Joe Arpaio, who makes his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic. “Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it’s time for parole, only to go out and commit more crimes so they can come back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things many taxpayers can’t afford to have for themselves.”
The same day he told all the inmates who were complaining of the heat in the tents: “It’s between 120 to 130 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents there too, and they have to walk all day in that sun, wearing full battle gear and getting shot at, and THEY have not committed any crimes, so shut your damned mouths!”
Sheriff Joe was just re-elected for the fourteenth time as Sheriff in Maricopa County, Arizona. -
top man need a few more like him
Totally agree you will never stop crime but I recon it would reduce a lot of it if people knew they would face them conditions.
That is brilliant!! Shame our government is run by spineless creatures.
Prison my wife works at is totally NON smoking, like Aylesbury. But when she does the checks at night all she can smell is weed being smoked. This being brought in by visitors. Not allowed to do anything about it, unless its turned up in a cell search!
As for what she is allowed and not allowed to do and what the prisoners get given and what they are allowed don’t even get me started! She works at a youth offender unit, similar to Aylesbury.
The flip side of the coin!
stevegm3:
The flip side of the coin!
Interesting
My sons a prison officer. Smoking is allowed in the cells as its their home. Its not allowed on the landings as its the officers place of work.
triple-tango:
My sons a prison officer. Smoking is allowed in the cells as its their home. Its not allowed on the landings as its the officers place of work.
There’s the problem. It’s not their home it’s their punishment. Half of those in prison would be better rehabilitated with a rope and trapdoor. The American Sheriff is right, they don’t need gyms, fancy food etc. Why do British prisoners get Sky etc? When people complain of overcrowding that’s tough, cram 'em in and make them sleep in shifts if there aren’t enough beds. No segregation wings, if the only space for a new Mr Glitter is with a gangster then he’ll have to hide the broomhandle I’m afraid.
I watched a program around Christmas about the train robbers and all the “unfair sentences” given out. I thought 30 years was right it was the fact others got less and the Krays avoided the drop was the problem.
Finally, why is the word ■■■■■ (rhymes with ponce) on auto censor? Is it offensive to ■■■ offenders?
triple-tango:
Its not allowed on the landings as its the officers place of work.
That’s ridiculous. It must be really intelligent smoke to know it can’t venture out into the landing.
I watched the same programme last night. It’s a ■■■■■■ joke the way they are treated. Their all childish little pricks that are ran around after.
It’s no wonder why the prisons are over populated and people constantly re-offend. For starters the offenders are immature little ■■■■■ that don’t take responsibility for their own actions and blame everyone but them self. Secondly the prison system isn’t feared anymore it’s a holiday camp with free 3 meals a day!! It’s a joke!
… God it annoys me lol
There should be 12 to a poxy little room, 
stacked three high just like in XMG 
crossmaglen if you don’t know it! 
bring back borstal 
or national service! three year tour of Afghanistan would be nice 
with pick axe handles as weapons