bossjock:
Home Rule for England I say !!. But I don’t think that anyone yet has caught on that it’s a SCOTTISH Parliament that the Englanders can’t vote in and in a BRITISH (not English) Parliament that the Jockenese can Scottish Legislation has been seen to be well in advance of England (a legacy of Maggie - an Englander- who started it with the Poll Tax perhaps ?) but it will all come to you all too soon.
It will come to us when New Labour lose their core support from Scotland. The reason Scottish MP’s can vote on “English” only matters is that it is the only way Labour get any support for some of their bills, which, without the Scottish vote would not get passed.
Another reason the Scots can vote in the English parliament is because the prime minister, the chancellor the transport minister and many more are Scots i hope you do get a ban on the Scots in the English parliament cos that would mean the end of these 3 for a start…
Oh yes and the Speaker in the house is a Scot too,Ever thought of governing your own country?.:):):):):):)
jammymutt:
As for smoking in cabs the sooner its banned all over the U.K. the better, in fact the sooner its made illegal across the entire country the sooner we will become a healthier population.
Jammy, do you drink■■? Cos I find people that drink and get the worse for wear more obnoxious than smokers!!! At least a smoking Scotsman doesn’t want to punch your lights out when he has had 20 Marlboro
Yes Bear i do drink and when passive alcoholism starts causing disease to orther people i will do it where it cant harm others.
Hello citizens. Just arrived on the forum having been watching it for a while. After reading the posts on this subject I just had to get intae it. It is time some of the mythology regarding who keeps who was dispelled.
The Barnett Formula has for many years been extremely good to us Scots. We have enjoyed the fruits of the Union of our Parliaments since 1707. Lived of the fat of the land, and moaned continually that the English were being beastly to us. The poor sods swallowed it as well, and continued to pay there guilt money, to us. For decades now the Scottish mafia has been quietly beavering away at the coalface in Westminster, making sure we get our just rewards. We have no shame at all when it comes to taking English siller. Letting them have the tax revenue from our oil is a small price to pay, we will have it back ten fold.
Make no mistake citizens it is our oil. Scotland is recognised internationally as a country in its own right. And under international law, most of the North sea oil licences are in the Scottish sector, this is under written by the UN.
Having lived and worked in both our fine countries, I have to say that Scotland wins hands down on every count, so I am staying put. I have many friends in England and they are fine fellows. So why can some of you not just settle down and accept the fact that you are and always have been British. English is just a concept! And that’s the story fae Balanory!
Ta Ta The Noo.
english scottish divide , well im really in the middle my mum was from the broch(( fraserburgh )and my dad was from hull east yorkshire, my last name is irish but i hate lamb so no welsh .and no matter who you vote for the govt gets in
poa:
Hello citizens. Just arrived on the forum having been watching it for a while.
Welcome. I’m glad that you could join us.
The “Barnett Formula”. I knew there was a name for it but couldn’t remember what it was.
Had Scotland been given sole access to the proceeds of the North Sea reserves then it would have unbalanced the relative economies to such an extent that there would have had to be implemented separate economies, a separate currency, and Border controls. And whilst undoubtedly the Scots would have benefited in the short term, the long term results would, I am sure, have resulted in isolation for Scotland, not only as a trading partner in Europe, due to their living standards being so much higher, and therefore, their manufacturing that more expensive, but also the transit of those manufactured goods through ‘England’ would also have attracted taxation.
Recently released papers have demonstrated that allowing Scotland alone to reap the rewards of Oil, could have caused the break-up of the U.K., which then makes each of us a less influential on the Global circuit.
Recently released papers have demonstrated that allowing Scotland alone to reap the rewards of Oil, could have caused the break-up of the U.K., which then makes each of us a less influential on the Global circuit.
That is one side of a many sided coin, and a valid opinion. However look at what a wee country like ours, same demography, same geography, has done with there oil bounty. They have a community fund approaching £600,000,000 and growing, for when the oil runs out, a high standard of living, and all outside the clutches of the bloated corrupt EU, they have a thriving fishing and tourist industry, (Scotlands has been decimated by weak self interested Euro MP’s, and flip floping Liberal MSP’s) and will soon be self sufficient in energy supply. I give you Norway. Are they less influential on the global circuit? OK they have not invaded any oil rich countries! If you consider that being influential!
I am not suggesting that we Scots should be so selfish as to forget our British cousins, we all live on the same island and should look after each other. I am just trying to dispel a few myths. The Scots are not the spongers that many of our British cousins portray us as. We have made, and will continue to make a huge contribution to Britain, both at home and abroad, with people and assets.
And wether we like it or not, the break up of the UK is well under way, thanks to Blair, and Thatcher. Same people, different dress!
poa:
but also the transit of those manufactured goods through ‘England’ would also have attracted taxation.
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You mean you would let EVERY toher European nation travel through your country free of charge using their own tax free fuel and undercutting English hauliers but you would have taxed the Scots?.
Is it any wonder we sided with the French and love to see England lose at sport to anyone else…
poa:
have resulted in isolation for Scotland, not on but also the transit of those manufactured goods through ‘England’ would also have attracted taxation.
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That was the other thing that troubled me regarding this post. The Watford Gap syndrome. A bit like the American mentality that regards America as the world.
What on earth makes you think that Scotland has to transit goods through England for export?
Do we not have our own Airports.
We have Ferry links to Zeebruge, and one about to start to Norway.
Prestwick Airport handles huge amounts of freight.
And as has been asked of you, why on earth would you tax Scottish goods, which would then put you in breach of EU regulations?
It may have escaped your notice, but like it or not the EU has an open border policy. So what is all this guff regarding border controls?
Last time I was over there I traveled as far as Switzerland and back, and the only time I was asked for ID was when booking my ferry tickets.
jammymutt:
P.S. If Scotland is that much bother to you ask your forefathers why they invaded it in the first place and if its still a problem rebuild the wall that the Romans built when they trashed your country…
The Act of Union wasn’t signed after Scotland being defeated by invasion, but to rescue Scotland from bankruptcy after certain foriegn policy decisions nearly ruined the country. Although not helped by Englands foreign policy.
The battle of Culloden was fought to stop a catholic king being put on the Britsh throne, and many of those fighting on the side of King George were Scots.
Also anybody looking at the history of the British Empire can hardly say the Scots were a run down minority.
As for no smoking bans, Scotland is only following Ireland and Itlay, in all Italian establishments there are signs stating who in the premisis is responsible for ensuring you don’t smoke and the fine, which is increase 10 times if children or pregnant women are present.
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