Size difference

Look at the size difference, the sleeper is bigger than the XF [emoji23]

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I bet the XF is a better drive, and more comfortable.

It’s a nice looking tractor unit but you wouldn’t be able to deliver to Travis Perkins in Lydney with it. :stuck_out_tongue:

i reckon he is just a agency day man and has prepared himself for an unexpected night out.

I call XF’s the tardis cabs, because they’re a LOT bigger on the outside than they are on the inside.

WhiteTruckMan:
I call XF’s the tardis cabs, because they’re a LOT bigger on the outside than they are on the inside.

Really!
The XF is a better place to be compared to a chicken or gobstopper,

Can you imagine the fun some people would have trying to get the 5th wheel under a trailer and at the same time useing a clutch

Wonder why there’s an ‘oversize load’ banner on the front bumper ?

remy:
Wonder why there’s an ‘oversize load’ banner on the front bumper ?

Yes, ‘undersize load’ would probably be more appropriate. De roys, or whatever their name is, would want to get about 8 of them on there. :laughing:

Probably uses the XF for weekends…the other one is a work horse…ha ha

If the Lady likes you - four inches is “enough”.

If the lady doesn’t like you - nine inches is “too small”.

Take into consideration the camera perspective, the front wheel of the Yank is probably not that different in size to the front wheel size of the XF.
Then the size is not that jawdropping, I had a French registered Kenworth tugging a tanker that came past me on the M11 last week. I actually looked down on the driver from my Next Gen Scania, and its a standard R450, not the S cab, so the yank trucks are not really that tall.
Would still rather drive the XF.

Winseer:
If the Lady likes you - four inches is “enough”.

If the lady doesn’t like you - nine inches is “too small”.

4 inches ain’t never going to be enough.

biggriffin:
I bet the XF is a better drive, and more comfortable.

Having driven both, I would personally strongly disagree on that one…but only the motorway of course…and the proviso that the kw had the mx engine not the cat motor booming and turbo whistling away all day…,

biggriffin:
I bet the XF is a better drive, and more comfortable.

I spent 10 years on RT’s in Oz… … Trust me… The XF doesn’t get a look in!

Having driven both European and North American trucks over many years and also actually owned North American trucks I feel that I can offer a reasonably valid opinion.
European cab overs offer a very high up and comanding driving position and the very short wheelbase is great for maneuverability but after those points the advantages are all in the North American trucks court.
The American trucks have mostly the same modern advancement regarding European technology nowadays but much offer more choice in which parts of it you are forced to have fitted.
For example on my 2019 Peterbilt I have the same Paccar MX 510hp engine as a European Daf but I was able to reject the standard Paccar 12spd auto gearbox and instead choose an 18spd Eaton Fuller manual. (crash box.)
My choice.
In the same way, my truck has Bendix disc brakes and electronic stability control but I rejected the adaptive cruise and crash prevention, lane departure bobbins which I knew I would not be able to get along with.
The ride of a long wheelbase conventional is far superior to that of a short wheelbase cabover if only because you are not sat perched up over the steer axle and lastly the biggest bonus of American conventional trucks for me is the huge amount of living space compared to European cabovers where the sleeping area is a narrow bunk right behind the drivers seat. In this respect I don’t think that there is any comparison between the two.
I really enjoyed the Volvo, Scania and Renault Magnum products that I once drove in Europe and still really like the look of them but I am sure that I would not appreciate going back to long haul driving and living in one again.

Probably the best truck interior regarding luxury right now in my opinion is the new Western Star 5700XE which can be ordered with many different options of materials and colours but I reckon even though it is not the biggest sleeper compared to the 80" Peterbilt Ultraloft or Volvo VNL 860 the Western Star wins for class.

wire:
Having driven both European and North American trucks over many years and also actually owned North American trucks I feel that I can offer a reasonably valid opinion.
European cab overs offer a very high up and comanding driving position and the very short wheelbase is great for maneuverability but after those points the advantages are all in the North American trucks court.
The American trucks have mostly the same modern advancement regarding European technology nowadays but much offer more choice in which parts of it you are forced to have fitted.
For example on my 2019 Peterbilt I have the same Paccar MX 510hp engine as a European Daf but I was able to reject the standard Paccar 12spd auto gearbox and instead choose an 18spd Eaton Fuller manual. (crash box.)
My choice.
In the same way, my truck has Bendix disc brakes and electronic stability control but I rejected the adaptive cruise and crash prevention, lane departure bobbins which I knew I would not be able to get along with.
The ride of a long wheelbase conventional is far superior to that of a short wheelbase cabover if only because you are not sat perched up over the steer axle and lastly the biggest bonus of American conventional trucks for me is the huge amount of living space compared to European cabovers where the sleeping area is a narrow bunk right behind the drivers seat. In this respect I don’t think that there is any comparison between the two.
I really enjoyed the Volvo, Scania and Renault Magnum products that I once drove in Europe and still really like the look of them but I am sure that I would not appreciate going back to long haul driving and living in one again.

Very well put +1