The “Bit in red” - is starkly insane in the UK - but I think we can extend an invitation to the man who wrote it to explain whether this was transposed for UK or not…
DougR:
The “Bit in red” - is starkly insane in the UK - but I think we can extend an invitation to the man who wrote it to explain whether this was transposed for UK or not…
It is only insane because we do things differently here in the UK. If everyone here did the bit in red it would be considered normal and you would be able to cope with the concept.
Can I suggest you don’t apply to drive in Canada for a while as you obviously don’t “get” it yet?
I’m sure Big Jon will be along soon. It is a holiday weekend in Canada (Thanksgiving Day is Monday 11/10/2010) so he may not be around to answer straight away.
I did speak to Big Jon’s brother to double check traffic circle signals and he confirms Big Jon is correct but transposed. Jon’s brother Dean is training for his class 1 licence in Alberta at the moment and passed his knowledge test (theory test) just this week.
Big Jon’s Dad
Macarooned in the UK
Thankfully not in Wales though. 
DougR:
‘…what signals do you give … where … why … or why not? - would you do differently …?’
As we half despair at wind-ups by jack knobbers on the road and a half-arsed apology of a Highway Code, our government says what?
Just a thought, but is the UK population being conquered by being divided in opinion?
Rules for traffic circles in Alberta Canada.
Note there is no stipulation that the left indicator (signal) should be used at all, only that the right signal should be used when leaving the circle
However I have driven there and have 3 sons that live and drive there all the time. All drive commercial vehicles as part of their jobs. It is common practice to indicate continuously on traffic circles. Left signal used until ready to leave, then right signal.
transportation.alberta.ca/co … ok2010.pdf
I can’t copy the diagram so you will have to follow the link if you want to see it.
Chapter 4 page 72 continuing on to page 73.
In a traffic circle, the vehicle on the right must yield to the vehicle on
the left. The driver on the left must activate the right signal and use
caution when leaving the circle and crossing through the outside lane.
Traffic indicated by white arrows to yield
to traffic indicated by black arrows.
In this diagram:
- Vehicles B and C must yield to vehicle A
- Vehicle E must yield to vehicle D,
while vehicles F and D proceed
together - Vehicle H must yield to vehicle G
Traffic that is in the lanes shown in red must yield to traffic in the lanes
shown in yellow. Traffic entering the circle must yield to traffic already in
the circle. When you are leaving the traffic circle, use your right turn signal.
This tells other drivers what you intend to do.
Remember these safety tips: - Enter into the right-hand lane of a traffic circle when you intend to leave
at the first available exit point. - If you are planning to proceed to the second exit or beyond, it is
recommended that you use the left-hand lane. - When entering or leaving a traffic circle be aware there may be marked
pedestrian crosswalks.
Point of interest: When there is snow on the ground, there are no road markings visible. This includes stop lines for junctions. There are no cat’s eyes either just to make things more fun.
Big Jon’s Dad
In truth, the roundabouts over here are so damned narrow that a truck has to mount the kerb on the island so it makes no difference as nobody else can joine while we are blocking it. I can’t picture any roundabouts in Edmonton or Calgary, only Fort Mac, but there are a few belters in the US…
The way I was taught was to signal left if taking the first exit, not to signal if going straight over, in which case you would be in the left lane, or to take the right lane with the right signal on until immediately before you wish to turn, in which case you put on the left sigbal and move into the left lane.
Of course, I realise that I am now old, so my teachings are probably totally outdated.
The bit in red was converted to read correctly to someone driving a RHD vehicle where you would be driving on the left side of the raod … eg the UK. and obvioulsy is in relation to trucks, As you may need the extra room that being in the left lane allows you back in the UK… also stops the car drivers creeping up the side of you
These were found in Edmonton & Sherwood Park within a few minutes just looking at google maps.
there is even a traffic circle signed as a Roundabout in Sherwood Park. First time I have ever seen a traffic circle called a Roundabout here.
Just to show what the road conditions are like here after a few hours of snow… and the roads stay like this for months, we dont grit the roads due to the extremely low temperatures here. We get down into the -40’s lol.
a few hours after I took this, they closed the road. This is Hwy 2 just north of Calgary. coming back I could only manage a max of 50km/h, any faster and I was sliding around on the snow.
and here is a link to the news article about the first major snowfall last winter in Edmonton
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2009/12/04/edmonton-winter-storm.html
I wasn’t arguing with you, Jon. We didn’t have to “do” roundabouts here as there are none. Looking at the areas where some of those you put up are situated, I bet they are hells delight… 
i didnt take it as an argument bob 
Just thought i would post some links for everyone to see some of the roundabouts over here
Tbh I try to avoid roundabouts here. Much easier to stay on the grid and contend with 4 way stops and the like.
BigJon:
The bit in red was converted to read correctly to someone driving a RHD vehicle where you would be driving on the left side of the road … eg the UK. and obviously is in relation to trucks, As you may need the extra room that being in the left lane allows you back in the UK… also stops the car drivers creeping up the side of you.
Thanks for clearing that up.
in Summary.
Set up is in the curb-side lane - because you want all the space for the longer vehicle - given a car or motor bike second lane could be a reasonable option.
Initial indication is as though to go round the circle.
Indicate the turn-off once past the last turn you don’t want.
Fair - and not completely unreasonable so long as everyone is following the same rules.
The obvious risk is from the vehicle seeking to go left from the first junction - he thinks he is taking the safe space on the outside of the turn - but is actually driving into space that you are committed to…
Here’s the full fat version
Just to go off on a tangent, where’s ROG?
This is the type of post that he usually replies to…
joemaxi:
Just to go off on a tangent, where’s ROG?This is the type of post that he usually replies to…
ROG is no longer with us… 
Some think he has gone to a better place. 
Not me though, I like this place the best.
Big Jon’s Dad
On time is when I get there, OK?