Alcpone:
Im talking about when there is someone that is looking for a signal that will let them know if its safe to go or not, thats a gimp thats lazy/selfish in my eyes.
Indeed it is.
Rob K:
Me personally, after seeing how much easier the rules of using a roundabout are over this side of the pond, would do the following.
Pull up in the left lane with my right turn signal on, to indicate that i am not going to be taking the first exit, then as soon as i am past the first exit, I would put my left turn signal on, to indicate that i require the next exit.
I know I am going to get some zb for posting this but, hey look at it logically, it makes perfect sense, and even americans understand what you are trying to do … 
So, if a signal is made and there is no one there to see it did the signal happen? 
If a tree falls over in a forest and no one hears it, did the tree fall over?
indicate into,around and off of roundabouts etc,not something i really think about,i just do it automatically
BigJon:
Me personally, after seeing how much easier the rules of using a roundabout are over this side of the pond, would do the following.Pull up in the left lane with my right turn signal on, to indicate that i am not going to be taking the first exit, then as soon as i am past the first exit, I would put my left turn signal on, to indicate that i require the next exit.
I know I am going to get some zb for posting this but, hey look at it logically, it makes perfect sense, and even americans understand what you are trying to do …
The simple roundabout as described by the OP is just a cross roads that just happens to have a big round thing in the middle of it.
Would you indicate right to go straight ahead at a cross roads?
I don’t know about in the US (not many RABs anyway? I have driven there & don’t recall it hapenning) but please don’t do that if/when you’re back in the UK as it is very misleading.
You most certainly were not taught to do that in either car or truck.
We know you’re not taking the first exit because you’re not signalling an intention to do so.
No indication necessary unless someone is there to benefit from it. Try following a trained police driver, very rarely do they indicate
Wheel Nut:
No indication necessary unless someone is there to benefit from it. Try following a trained police driver, very rarely do they indicate
They should if you’re following them
Wheel Nut:
No indication necessary unless someone is there to benefit from it. Try following a trained police driver, very rarely do they indicate
That’s because they’re [zb]s, not because it’s correct. Can’t believe you posted that actually.
Driveroneuk:
Wheel Nut:
No indication necessary unless someone is there to benefit from it. Try following a trained police driver, very rarely do they indicateThey should if you’re following them
I can accept that if you are following the car quite close but a normal safe space between you and they are turning left at the roundabout, it doesn’t affect me or them and there is no one else to indicate which way they intend to go.
Rob. I posted it because that is the advice used in Roadcraft which has been published for 60 years
In France left signals are used on every roundabout followed by right at the exit, but they also indicate when they overtake, both left and right
Wheel Nut:
Driveroneuk:
Wheel Nut:
No indication necessary unless someone is there to benefit from it. Try following a trained police driver, very rarely do they indicateThey should if you’re following them
I can accept that if you are following the car quite close but a normal safe space between you and they are turning left at the roundabout, it doesn’t affect me or them and there is no one else to indicate which way they intend to go.
Rob. I posted it because that is the advice used in Roadcraft which has been published for 60 years
In France left signals are used on every roundabout followed by right at the exit, but they also indicate when they overtake, both left and right
It might be in Roadcraft but it’s still BS. I see these so-called trained police drivers all the time between Lofthouse and 41 on the M1, coming tanking down lane 3 doing 130 then carve straight across the front of you onto the slip road without any indication of intentions whatsoever. According to THC you should signal when changing lanes or exiting a motorway so are you trying to tell me that this is wrong and in fact it is correct for them to carve everyone up without any indication or regard, as per the alleged “advice” in your Roadcraft rule book ? I detect BS somewhere…
Driveroneuk:
I don’t know about in the US (not many RABs anyway? I have driven there & don’t recall it hapenning) but please don’t do that if/when you’re back in the UK as it is very misleading.
You most certainly were not taught to do that in either car or truck.
Actually I was taught to do it in both Car and Truck… over here 
Goto page 77 and read the Traffic circle rules… 
Thanks folks - this has been interesting - the thing that sparked off the thread was a conversation with the TM/H&S bod after my driving assessment.
As I said in the O.P. I’ve spent 24 years based in Milton Keynes (and for six years had an office overlooking the Magic Roundabout in Hemel) - the first time I met a roundabout I was baffled by the signalling so I read the Highway Code, Roadcraft, Motorcycle Roadcraft and the I.A.M. publications - I reckon I know roundabouts now
Having recently moved to South Wales - I now realise that there are two schools of though on indicators:
1 - They are a tool to help convey your intentions to other poor sods who would like to have some clue where you plan to go.
2 - They are a weapon, used to sow doubt, fear, and uncertainty in the minds of your enemies.
The TM was of the second school - and insists that NO indication should be given for a Straight On
Wheel Nut:
No indication necessary unless someone is there to benefit from it. Try following a trained police driver, very rarely do they indicate
But the sensei of the second ryu do this.
Pull up in the left lane with my right turn signal on, to indicate that i am not going to be taking the first exit, then as soon as i am past the first exit, I would put my left turn signal on, to indicate that i require the next exit.
Spellbinding when you see it done to live traffic - sure they get called every name under the sun - but the amount of space it generates is amazing.
BigJon:
Driveroneuk:
I don’t know about in the US (not many RABs anyway? I have driven there & don’t recall it hapenning) but please don’t do that if/when you’re back in the UK as it is very misleading.
You most certainly were not taught to do that in either car or truck.Actually I was taught to do it in both Car and Truck… over here
Goto page 77 and read the Traffic circle rules…
Grumble…
Nice hole you’re digging son.
1/ traffic circle rules are on page 72.
2/ The only mention of turn signals (indicators in UK) is when exiting the traffic circle.
However you are right saying Albertans use turn signals in the way you describe.
I think it is easier to understand if you consider each exit from the traffic circle as a seperate junction, treating it as a fork in the road where you signal which of the two possible routes you intend on taking.
Priority on a two lane traffic circle is weird though. The inner lane (nearest to the centre of the circle) has priority over the outer lane when exiting the circle. I guess this is the reason for signalling at every exit so everyone knows where you want to go. It seems to work OK.
I doubt if UK drivers could cope with those rules though. (GD&R)
BJD
I’m only here for the money.
PS: How much are you paying for diesel in Edmonton now? Mine has gone up to £122.9 per litre this weekend from £118.9. 
I guess I’ll just have to stick my prices up too.
It is perhaps worth pointing out that the Albertans drive anti-clockwise round the circle - where we on the right side of the water (usually) go clockwise - making the potential meaning of the right turnsignal very very different.
DougR:
It is perhaps worth pointing out that the Albertans drive anti-clockwise round the circle - where we on the right side of the water (usually) go clockwise - making the potential meaning of the right turnsignal very very different.
True, but I think Big Jon transposed what he does, to be as if he was driving on the left in the UK.
Anyway: Driving on the right as we are in Canada:
The way it is done in Alberta: Enter traffic circle in any lane. Indicate right if leaving at first exit, otherwise indicate left. (regardless of which lane you are using) Repeat at each exit, continuing to indicate left until you wish to leave the circle. Indicate right and take the next exit. You have priority to exit even if cutting across the lane next to you which may have traffic continuing around the circle. Usual caveats about observation of other vehicles applies. Better to yeild right of way than have a collision even if the other guy is not following the rules.
Some of us don’t indicate (no names but I get moaned at when I drive over there cos I don’t always do it their way) Nobody has clobbered me so far.
BJD
Show me the money
Big Jon’s dad:
DougR:
It is perhaps worth pointing out that the Albertans drive anti-clockwise round the circle - where we on the right side of the water (usually) go clockwise - making the potential meaning of the right turnsignal very very different.True, but I think Big Jon transposed what he does, to be as if he was driving on the left in the UK.
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Nope - I don’t think so -
Pull up in the left lane with my right turn signal on, to indicate that i am not going to be taking the first exit, then as soon as i am past the first exit, I would put my left turn signal on, to indicate that i require the next exit.
This is a relatively sane move in Alberta - or anywhere where the people drive on the right - but in the UK ( Japan, NZ etc) it will get the full attention of everyone, or at least everyone who sees the turnsignal.
DougR:
Big Jon’s dad:
DougR:
It is perhaps worth pointing out that the Albertans drive anti-clockwise round the circle - where we on the right side of the water (usually) go clockwise - making the potential meaning of the right turnsignal very very different.True, but I think Big Jon transposed what he does, to be as if he was driving on the left in the UK.
…Nope - I don’t think so -
Pull up in the left lane with my right turn signal on, to indicate that i am not going to be taking the first exit, then as soon as i am past the first exit, I would put my left turn signal on, to indicate that i require the next exit.
This is a relatively sane move in Alberta - or anywhere where the people drive on the right - but in the UK ( Japan, NZ etc) it will get the full attention of everyone, or at least everyone who sees the turnsignal.
I think you need to read the bit in red again. It only makes sense if you are driving on the left and driving around the roundabout clockwise… If you were driving on the right you would need to drive around the traffic circle anti-clockwise and your indications would need to be opposite to those stated.
BJD
The check is in the mail. Where have I heard that one before? 