Should know better

New pass here, started a job few weeks ago and yesterday had to do a run in a sprinter ( one if those van box supermarket s use to do home delievery) and for some stupid reason I thought anything below 7.5 ton would be the same national speed limit ad car.

Found out today that dual and single carriage they limited to 60.
I have been though same speed camera on my run and I can’t really remember my speed at the time but i was really thinking I could do the same ad car.

That will be long 14 days of drama. What bummer

id say theres a good chance you will be ok…ive been through a few on the A75 in vans and minibuses without any follow up though i wasnt doing more than 70…remember its the owner needs to get the nip within 14 days,and not you…day of offence dont count…14 days from day after,and they assume 2 days post.it has to reach him by then…thereafter its been served correctly and can take as long as it needs to reach you.

Are speed cameras capable of differentiating between types of vehicle? What would it use to detect a van versus a car, and to know to take pictures at a different speed limit setting? I may be wrong, but my suspicion is that fixed cameras operate at only one speed setting, and that will be the highest (i.e. car) setting otherwise there would be too many false positives.

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Are speed cameras capable of differentiating between types of vehicle? What would it use to detect a van versus a car, and to know to take pictures at a different speed limit setting? I may be wrong, but my suspicion is that fixed cameras operate at only one speed setting, and that will be the highest (i.e. car) setting otherwise there would be too many false positives.

I’ve wondered about that as well.

I don’t know if gatso are capable of differentiate but that new boy I forgot the name is. They have one sensor for height which then get the picture. I think an officer have a look at the picture and check reg number to find out about the vehicle.

I was around Northampton and Worcester. I know motorway I was fine but the problem are dual and single carriage

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Not sure about measuring the size and height of a vehicle, but the UK has a system for measuring axle weights:

tdcsystems.co.uk/solutions/weigh-in-motion

transportsfriend.org/enforcement/wims.html

As for whether they are tied in with speed camera’s I couldn’t tell you…

I did the same thing on the A19 a couple of weeks ago. I read on some police website that the radar can pinpoint individual vehicles precicely.
When I spotted it at about 300 yards away I was overtaking a truck at 70 and rolled off to about 65 when I passed the camera van.
As yet, nothing…

Anything below 70 in a Sprinter is probably considered to be slow :laughing:

Sprinter is the same speed as car unless your boss has had them limited

As long as the speed camera has flashed twice then poss not sure on the camera van things

National speed limits
Type of vehicle Built-up areas mph (km/h) Single carriageways mph (km/h) Dual carriageways mph (km/h) Motorways mph (km/h)
Cars, motorcycles, car-derived vans and dual-purpose vehicles 30 (48) 60 (96) 70 (112) 70 (112)
Cars, motorcycles, car-derived vans and dual-purpose vehicles when towing caravans or trailers 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 60 (96)
Motorhomes or motor caravans (not more than 3.05 tonnes maximum unladen weight) 30 (48) 60 (96) 70 (112) 70 (112)
Motorhomes or motor caravans (more than 3.05 tonnes maximum unladen weight) 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 70 (112)
Buses, coaches and minibuses (not more than 12 metres overall length) 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 70 (112)
Buses, coaches and minibuses (more than 12 metres overall length) 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 60 (96)
Goods vehicles (not more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight) 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 70 (112)
60 (96) if articulated or towing a trailer
Goods vehicles (more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight) in England and Wales 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 60 (96)
Goods vehicles (more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight) in Scotland 30 (48) 40 (64) 50 (80) 60 (96)

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Sprinter is the same speed as car unless your boss has had them limited

As long as the speed camera has flashed twice then poss not sure on the camera van things

National speed limits
Type of vehicle Built-up areas mph (km/h) Single carriageways mph (km/h) Dual carriageways mph (km/h) Motorways mph (km/h)
Cars, motorcycles, car-derived vans and dual-purpose vehicles 30 (48) 60 (96) 70 (112) 70 (112)
Cars, motorcycles, car-derived vans and dual-purpose vehicles when towing caravans or trailers 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 60 (96)
Motorhomes or motor caravans (not more than 3.05 tonnes maximum unladen weight) 30 (48) 60 (96) 70 (112) 70 (112)
Motorhomes or motor caravans (more than 3.05 tonnes maximum unladen weight) 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 70 (112)
Buses, coaches and minibuses (not more than 12 metres overall length) 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 70 (112)
Buses, coaches and minibuses (more than 12 metres overall length) 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 60 (96)
Goods vehicles (not more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight) 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 70 (112)
60 (96) if articulated or towing a trailer
Goods vehicles (more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight) in England and Wales 30 (48) 50 (80) 60 (96) 60 (96)
Goods vehicles (more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight) in Scotland 30 (48) 40 (64) 50 (80) 60 (96)

A sprinter will be registered as a commercial vehicle, so the goods vehicle under 7.5t limits apply. I know of a few drivers who’ve been zapped doing over 60 on dual carriageways in Transits.

Gatsos were size/weight sensitive on the A40 round Oxford so assume most were, set one off many years ago in the lorry on the A40 Eynsham, saw it flash but heard nothing luckily.

Chances are that fixed cameras won’t find it easy to distinguish between say a Landcruiser or Sprinter, so unless it was switched on mobile van operator you’ll probably hear nothing else.

Could of been an old Gatso, there are a few left still running on film.