Winseer:
I once tried to find a Reader’s Digest “loser in the first round”… I ended up not being able to find the Swindon Depot, that had disappeared off the face of the Earth in the interim…
There’s no shortage of drivers. If there was, you’d see middle managers (if there are any left with a brief) delivering loads to rdc’s (like we did in the early 2000’s when I started), adverts on gates with a couple of units and trailers in the yard (again, seen in times gone by), youngsters with wet ink wouldn’t find it hard to get a job, and the money would be astronomical, not “meets nmw” 
OVLOV JAY:
There’s no shortage of drivers. If there was, you’d see middle managers (if there are any left with a brief) delivering loads to rdc’s (like we did in the early 2000’s when I started), adverts on gates with a couple of units and trailers in the yard (again, seen in times gone by), youngsters with wet ink wouldn’t find it hard to get a job, and the money would be astronomical, not “meets nmw”
My take on it…plenty of car drivers with blagged Class 1s, but a shortage of ‘‘proper real drivers’’. 
The former never ever becoming the latter as long as they have that proverbial hole where it usually is.
Situation in a nutshell I reckon.
robroy:
OVLOV JAY:
There’s no shortage of drivers. If there was, you’d see middle managers (if there are any left with a brief) delivering loads to rdc’s (like we did in the early 2000’s when I started), adverts on gates with a couple of units and trailers in the yard (again, seen in times gone by), youngsters with wet ink wouldn’t find it hard to get a job, and the money would be astronomical, not “meets nmw”My take on it…plenty of car drivers with blagged Class 1s, but a shortage of ‘‘proper real drivers’’.
The former never ever becoming the latter as long as they have that proverbial hole where it usually is.Situation in a nutshell I reckon.
Don’t think we’ll ever see proper drivers again. The ones who’ve come along over the past ten years are just the stepping stones to automation. They’ll be just like train drivers in years to come, sat there as a fail safe on auto pilot, then shunt and unloading in yards
OVLOV JAY:
robroy:
OVLOV JAY:
There’s no shortage of drivers. If there was, you’d see middle managers (if there are any left with a brief) delivering loads to rdc’s (like we did in the early 2000’s when I started), adverts on gates with a couple of units and trailers in the yard (again, seen in times gone by), youngsters with wet ink wouldn’t find it hard to get a job, and the money would be astronomical, not “meets nmw”My take on it…plenty of car drivers with blagged Class 1s, but a shortage of ‘‘proper real drivers’’.
The former never ever becoming the latter as long as they have that proverbial hole where it usually is.Situation in a nutshell I reckon.
Don’t think we’ll ever see proper drivers again. The ones who’ve come along over the past ten years are just the stepping stones to automation. They’ll be just like train drivers in years to come, sat there as a fail safe on auto pilot, then shunt and unloading in yards
Tbf Jay there are many young lads who I would have down as proper drivers, so there’s still hope. 
robroy:
OVLOV JAY:
robroy:
OVLOV JAY:
There’s no shortage of drivers. If there was, you’d see middle managers (if there are any left with a brief) delivering loads to rdc’s (like we did in the early 2000’s when I started), adverts on gates with a couple of units and trailers in the yard (again, seen in times gone by), youngsters with wet ink wouldn’t find it hard to get a job, and the money would be astronomical, not “meets nmw”My take on it…plenty of car drivers with blagged Class 1s, but a shortage of ‘‘proper real drivers’’.
The former never ever becoming the latter as long as they have that proverbial hole where it usually is.Situation in a nutshell I reckon.
Don’t think we’ll ever see proper drivers again. The ones who’ve come along over the past ten years are just the stepping stones to automation. They’ll be just like train drivers in years to come, sat there as a fail safe on auto pilot, then shunt and unloading in yards
Tbf Jay there are many young lads who I would have down as proper drivers, so there’s still hope.
I don’t know mate, for every good one I meet, I find ten licence holders
I started off on buses got my PSV class 1, I worked as a bus/coach driver for 12 years, did my HGV class 1, was doing agency work then got into ASDA RDC 8, did 6 months the caught my now ex wife shagging around, the CSA put an end to my HGV days, they wanted a ■■■■ load of cash each month, so. I thought ■■■■ it, I went into a hospital working as a part time Healthcare Assistant, so I did earn enough to pay the CSA then went to University to train as a Nurse, never looked back, still do the occasional Agency run
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I don’t know mate, for every good one I meet, I find ten licence holders
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Hi Jay, We all started somewhere, and most of us made mistakes along the way to which we learned from hopefully, obviously this does not include the driving Gods amongst us.
Dave…
Spot on Dave Doc
For every diamond there’s 10 bone idle barstewards
OVLOV JAY:
Don’t think we’ll ever see proper drivers again. The ones who’ve come along over the past ten years are just the stepping stones to automation. They’ll be just like train drivers in years to come, sat there as a fail safe on auto pilot, then shunt and unloading in yards
Rubbish, I have seen many youngsters that are dead keen on driving a wagon for a living.
The job has massiveley changed over the years and there are a lot of bellends behind the wheel but to tarnish all youngsters is a bit OTT.
blueiain1967:
I started off on buses got my PSV class 1, I worked as a bus/coach driver for 12 years, did my HGV class 1, was doing agency work then got into ASDA RDC 8, did 6 months the caught my now ex wife shagging around, the CSA put an end to my HGV days, they wanted a [zb] load of cash each month, so. I thought [zb] it, I went into a hospital working as a part time Healthcare Assistant, so I did earn enough to pay the CSA then went to University to train as a Nurse, never looked back, still do the occasional Agency run
I would imagine there are only 3 types of wives unfortunately for those who spend very long hours driving. Those with an active and close-knit social and family life, those who shag around, and those depressed and plotting a divorce.
Says the person who can’t punctuate a sentence to the level of a 5 year old or spell simple two letter words. I bet you didn’t have a clue which way to go when you started unless people told you even if you had a map and could read it. I bet you don’t take the same routes now between places which you did when you first started and realised that you’d made a rubbish decision. And we had plenty of steering wheel attendants before Satnavs which is why after decades of the general public being subjected to the aftermath of rocket scientists like yourself the DCPC was brought in and VOSA have clampdowns on load security.
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Conor mate, seriously.
You come on here with your inflated air of self importance, pomposity, and superiority, taking every opportunity to inform us how academically intelligent you are,
However, for a man who is supposedlly so intelligent you do come out with some complete ■■■■■■■■ on here from time to time, to the point of it being anusing for us but a bit embarrssing for yourself
Can you explain to me (and the rest of us inferiors) the relavance of a driver who;…quote’’ can not punctuate a sentence to the level of a 5 year old or spell simple two letter words’’ (your words and opinion, not mine btw ) or in fact the correlation of that with the same guy being a competent and proficient driver.
I have read his next post as I’m sure you have, and it is obvious his experience in road haulage by far supercedes a trip to Lockerbie from Howden on a night trunk.
Furthermore you continue to be the sole champion of the dcpc, where as the majority of the less gullible among us see it for what it really is,.a face saving, money making excercise with no real substance.
Now if you can refure that with statistics to back up your opinion of how valuable it is and how successful the whole excercise has been, then crack on, otherwise wind your [zb] neck in, and attempt a bit of humility.
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most eloquently put my good man,and an absolute belter.
but fairs fair.
he does cross brough both ways each night,and theres some proper mans driving in that…
Howden Dyke - Locherbie every night and back again wow must be very stressfull.
How about Loading from Essex going down to Tarabulus part tip then on to Sebha part tip then to Muzuq part tip then down to Al Fashir then home via reload at Istanbul
Colin in Sweden:
Howden Dyke - Locherbie every night and back again wow must be very stressfull.How about Loading from Essex going down to Tarabulus part tip then on to Sebha part tip then to Muzuq part tip then down to Al Fashir then home via reload at Istanbul
That’s a nice little run. What have the planners got you scheduled for in the afternoon? 
Rjan:
blueiain1967:
I started off on buses got my PSV class 1, I worked as a bus/coach driver for 12 years, did my HGV class 1, was doing agency work then got into ASDA RDC 8, did 6 months the caught my now ex wife shagging around, the CSA put an end to my HGV days, they wanted a [zb] load of cash each month, so. I thought [zb] it, I went into a hospital working as a part time Healthcare Assistant, so I did earn enough to pay the CSA then went to University to train as a Nurse, never looked back, still do the occasional Agency runI would imagine there are only 3 types of wives unfortunately for those who spend very long hours driving. Those with an active and close-knit social and family life, those who shag around, and those depressed and plotting a divorce.
If you’re a TfL driver - you get to have 4 rather than 3 types of wives - actually in four different people at that! 
I know it’s American, but makes interesting reading,
businessinsider.com/walmart … ?r=US&IR=T
biggriffin:
I know it’s American, but makes interesting reading,
businessinsider.com/walmart … ?r=US&IR=T
Wal Mart changed their trucking operation, getting rid of set runs and more slip seating. Some drivers had day runs and were home at night but they ended day drivers so they had to be out all week but some didn’t want that and left. A lot of drivers left and WM thought they would replace them and pay cheaper wages but didn’t get the amount of applicants they needed so had to go back to the original wage. WM shortage was their own doing by trying to replace well paid drivers with cheaper ones.
biggriffin nice read thanks for that post
Of the many truck driving jobs I’ve had in my trucking life I think I only had to do 3 maybe 4 road tests with the transport manager.
And one many years ago and I cant think now who it was for it was a night trunk hauling beer and again I cant think what brewery it was, part of the test was they gave you a blank map of England, Scotland, and Wales + Ireland and a list of citys you had to match the city up to a number on the map, second part was you had to fill in a tacho for that day then they took you out on the road when you came back in to the depot they asked you to to put it on a loading bay.
I did pass but never followed it through
joe royal:
scotstrucker:
you dont get drivers now (occasionaly a gem will come through) only steering wheel attendants whom have no clue which way too go unless they can type the postcode into there car satnavMost drivers don’t seem to know really basic stuff like there , their and they’re .
And how would that improve his driving ability he’s a lorry driver not an English teacher, in many manual trades there are people who can barely read or write yet are very good at what they do