Is there a shortage in lorry drivers at the moment or will there be after Brexit?
I’m about to get a Class 1 license and just thinking about the future and if there will be a shortage.
Seems to be plenty of jobs out there at the moment or am I wrong?
To answer your questions before this thread gets completely derailed into another subject…
There is no shortage of lorry drivers period. Not now and not after Brexit. There are more licence holders in this country than there is jobs. Many just choose not to use their licence and it’s obvious why. Do not believe the hype the training schools are peddling.
The amount of jobs available depends purely on where you are in the country. Good jobs are rarely advertised so keep that in mind. There may indeed be plenty advertised in your area but most will be at companies who cannot keep drivers.
scotstrucker:
you dont get drivers now (occasionaly a gem will come through) only steering wheel attendants whom have no clue which way too go unless they can type the postcode into there car satnav
Says the person who can’t punctuate a sentence to the level of a 5 year old or spell simple two letter words. I bet you didn’t have a clue which way to go when you started unless people told you even if you had a map and could read it. I bet you don’t take the same routes now between places which you did when you first started and realised that you’d made a rubbish decision. And we had plenty of steering wheel attendants before Satnavs which is why after decades of the general public being subjected to the aftermath of rocket scientists like yourself the DCPC was brought in and VOSA have clampdowns on load security.
Conor mate, seriously.
You come on here with your inflated air of self importance, pomposity, and superiority, taking every opportunity to inform us how academically intelligent you are,
However, for a man who is supposedlly so intelligent you do come out with some complete ■■■■■■■■ on here from time to time, to the point of it being anusing for us but a bit embarrssing for yourself
Can you explain to me (and the rest of us inferiors) the relavance of a driver who;…quote’’ can not punctuate a sentence to the level of a 5 year old or spell simple two letter words’’ (your words and opinion, not mine btw ) or in fact the correlation of that with the same guy being a competent and proficient driver.
I have read his next post as I’m sure you have, and it is obvious his experience in road haulage by far supercedes a trip to Lockerbie from Howden on a night trunk.
Furthermore you continue to be the sole champion of the dcpc, where as the majority of the less gullible among us see it for what it really is,.a face saving, money making excercise with no real substance.
Now if you can refure that with statistics to back up your opinion of how valuable it is and how successful the whole excercise has been, then crack on, otherwise wind your ■■■■ neck in, and attempt a bit of humility.
Is there a shortage in lorry drivers at the moment or will there be after Brexit?
I’m about to get a Class 1 license and just thinking about the future and if there will be a shortage.
Seems to be plenty of jobs out there at the moment or am I wrong?
To answer your questions before this thread gets completely derailed into another subject…
There is no shortage of lorry drivers period. Not now and not after Brexit. There are more licence holders in this country than there is jobs. Many just choose not to use their licence and it’s obvious why. Do not believe the hype the training schools are peddling.
The amount of jobs available depends purely on where you are in the country. Good jobs are rarely advertised so keep that in mind. There may indeed be plenty advertised in your area but most will be at companies who cannot keep drivers.
what he says is the truth i read somewhere that only half of all lgv licence holders use the licence for there living
Sidevalve:
There’s never been a shortage of drivers.
There is however a shortage of good experienced drivers who are not willing to work for [zb] wages.
That’s about the strength of it in a nutshell
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the biggest problem nowadays is firms are having to work on tight margins, fuels expensive, insurance premuims are expensive, kitting out trucks for fors\clocs is expensive.
The big firms like stobart, ws transportation are making big inroads into the flat general haulage market where it was normally the small to meduim haulier that did that market now have to compete with them on there back load rates for there outbound loads which means less money coming in. yes you can find other work but you probably got to cut the rate to get into it meaning less money again. give it 10-15 years and most of the small too meduim hauliers will be gone or pulling for some of the big firms unless they are in a niche market.
scotstrucker:
you dont get drivers now (occasionaly a gem will come through) only steering wheel attendants whom have no clue which way too go unless they can type the postcode into there car satnav
Says the person who can’t punctuate a sentence to the level of a 5 year old or spell simple two letter words. I bet you didn’t have a clue which way to go when you started unless people told you even if you had a map and could read it. I bet you don’t take the same routes now between places which you did when you first started and realised that you’d made a rubbish decision. And we had plenty of steering wheel attendants before Satnavs which is why after decades of the general public being subjected to the aftermath of rocket scientists like yourself the DCPC was brought in and VOSA have clampdowns on load security.
Conor mate, seriously.
You come on here with your inflated air of self importance, pomposity, and superiority, taking every opportunity to inform us how academically intelligent you are,
However, for a man who is supposedlly so intelligent you do come out with some complete ■■■■■■■■ on here from time to time, to the point of it being anusing for us but a bit embarrssing for yourself
Can you explain to me (and the rest of us inferiors) the relavance of a driver who;…quote’’ can not punctuate a sentence to the level of a 5 year old or spell simple two letter words’’ (your words and opinion, not mine btw ) or in fact the correlation of that with the same guy being a competent and proficient driver.
I have read his next post as I’m sure you have, and it is obvious his experience in road haulage by far supercedes a trip to Lockerbie from Howden on a night trunk.
Furthermore you continue to be the sole champion of the dcpc, where as the majority of the less gullible among us see it for what it really is,.a face saving, money making excercise with no real substance.
Now if you can refure that with statistics to back up your opinion of how valuable it is and how successful the whole excercise has been, then crack on, otherwise wind your [zb] neck in, and attempt a bit of humility.
Sidevalve:
There’s never been a shortage of drivers.
There is however a shortage of good experienced drivers who are not willing to work for [zb] wages.
That’s about the strength of it in a nutshell
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the biggest problem nowadays is firms are having to work on tight margins, fuels expensive, insurance premuims are expensive, kitting out trucks for fors\clocs is expensive.
The big firms like stobart, ws transportation are making big inroads into the flat general haulage market where it was normally the small to meduim haulier that did that market now have to compete with them on there back load rates for there outbound loads which means less money coming in. yes you can find other work but you probably got to cut the rate to get into it meaning less money again. give it 10-15 years and most of the small too meduim hauliers will be gone or pulling for some of the big firms unless they are in a niche market.
Also known as the great race to the bottom.
Luckily I have recently gone on the books for a company transporting their own goods. Their mindset is pay well for the right people and have a wholistic outlook. Control their deliveries, keep their customers happy and look after the kit.
Sidevalve:
There’s never been a shortage of drivers.
There is however a shortage of good experienced drivers who are not willing to work for [zb] wages.
That’s about the strength of it in a nutshell
Sent from my SM-A600FN using Tapatalk
Also known as the great race to the bottom.
Luckily I have recently gone on the books for a company transporting their own goods. Their mindset is pay well for the right people and have a wholistic outlook. Control their deliveries, keep their customers happy and look after the kit.
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Yup.
The best jobs to be in, where you are part and parcel of the service provided to the customer, not a hire and reward transport operation.
Where this falls down is when people manage to get jobs in such places and then forget in days what they were glad, days ago , to get away from, the urge to throttle the sods is strong in these cases Obiwan.
Sidevalve:
There’s never been a shortage of drivers.
There is however a shortage of good experienced drivers who are not willing to work for [zb] wages.
That’s about the strength of it in a nutshell
Sent from my SM-A600FN using Tapatalk
the biggest problem nowadays is firms are having to work on tight margins, fuels expensive, insurance premuims are expensive, kitting out trucks for fors\clocs is expensive.
The big firms like stobart, ws transportation are making big inroads into the flat general haulage market where it was normally the small to meduim haulier that did that market now have to compete with them on there back load rates for there outbound loads which means less money coming in. yes you can find other work but you probably got to cut the rate to get into it meaning less money again. give it 10-15 years and most of the small too meduim hauliers will be gone or pulling for some of the big firms unless they are in a niche market.
I’d argue that a bigger problem is too many “industries” in this country are set upon believing the lies of liars, rather than companies doing their own market research, their own recruitment plans, and their own training for what should and could still be a career choice for drivers in the upcoming generations - IF firms got off their “Times are 'ard” high horses for once.
In case anyone hadn’t noticed of late, the fuel prices are currently collapsing, with little enough of the drop to date being passed on to the forecourts.
Insurance premiums are not expensive - if you don’t use sub-prime drivers who smash up the kit all the time.
Who bothers beyond “Bronze FORS” in what Can and Khaaant be done when driving inside the North/South CIrcular these days?
I’d argue that those companies with their hearts and minds in the right places - are already working out how to do Brexit and Post Brexit - all by themselves. They ain’t waiting for our govermment to fudge it, or turn it over at the last minute… It is really the case that actual businesses on the ground - will be the ones ultimately responsible for delivering Brexit to the masses in any case.
scotstrucker:
you dont get drivers now (occasionaly a gem will come through) only steering wheel attendants whom have no clue which way too go unless they can type the postcode into there car satnav
Most drivers don’t seem to know really basic stuff like there , their and they’re .
scotstrucker:
you dont get drivers now (occasionaly a gem will come through) only steering wheel attendants whom have no clue which way too go unless they can type the postcode into there car satnav
Most drivers don’t seem to know really basic stuff like there , their and they’re .
Maybe you should read the entire post, he has already stated that he’s dyslexic [emoji849]
Juddian:
Yup.
The best jobs to be in, where you are part and parcel of the service provided to the customer, not a hire and reward transport operation.
Where this falls down is when people manage to get jobs in such places and then forget in days what they were glad, days ago , to get away from, the urge to throttle the sods is strong in these cases Obiwan.
As you well know mate I’ve worked for such a firm for some years. It’s not perfect by any means, if it was a general haulier it’d have gone bust years ago and I’m sure they’ve got their own private oil well given the amount of unnecssary mileage we do but it’s the best job I’ve ever had; and we’ve got one such driver at our place.
He’s been there 40 years and I don’t think he’s ever had a good day yet. Admittedly he’s the sort of bloke who’d moan about having nothing to moan about, but God help him if he ever had to do a week for a hire and reward outfit.
All depend not from gov or Brexit or Ee drivers but from investment conpany.But they mainly from China,Asia.If they stop invest money in Uk that here will deaph reccession and to many driver can list job.As well depend from house price.But if so much migrant will leave Uk that it is no good gor house price .
Well there are @ least 3 other posters here that should get a life and a little humour and stop the raking down on other senior drivers.
Give the guy a little credit and respect hes probably done more miles in reverse than you lot have driven forward, and does not need a satnav and knows the old back roads, and how to get off the motorway and beat the tail backs on the A roads some dont even know exsist or what a B road is come to that.
I know times have changed in the trucking industry and for the good (maybe) many on here given a DAF 3600 or an ERF with a Gardener engine in or maybe a Scammel antar and asked to take it out of the yard fully loaded would not be able to drive it !! this was proved to myself back in 1980ish when I was asked to deliver a DAF 3600 tractor unit down to a company that had a fleet of Scanias and I was to meet one of their night trunkers at 02:00 give him the DAF and take his Scania back to Charthire for a service then do the same thing the next night.
I had not been home long when the phone rang it was the guy I did work for I was self employed at the time mostly out of Charthire in Oldbury.
He asked if there was any problem with the DAF when I took it over to the said company, I said no it was fine why ■■ He then told me to go back as the driver could not select the gears !! he had said there was something wrong with it. I then told Albert the DAF was fine and the reason the night trunker could not drive it was because his Scania had syncromesh nuff said.
Sorry this is going off track now but I cant stand younger drivers knocking other drivers especially those that have driven over 30 odd years where did the comradmanship go ■■ I know the answer to this as many of you old timers do to.
Is there a shortage in lorry drivers at the moment or will there be after Brexit?
I’m about to get a Class 1 license and just thinking about the future and if there will be a shortage.
Seems to be plenty of jobs out there at the moment or am I wrong?
To answer your questions before this thread gets completely derailed into another subject…
There is no shortage of lorry drivers period. Not now and not after Brexit. There are more licence holders in this country than there is jobs. Many just choose not to use their licence and it’s obvious why. Do not believe the hype the training schools are peddling.
The amount of jobs available depends purely on where you are in the country. Good jobs are rarely advertised so keep that in mind. There may indeed be plenty advertised in your area but most will be at companies who cannot keep drivers.
what he says is the truth i read somewhere that only half of all lgv licence holders use the licence for there living
Half? If I’ve remembered the statistics correctly, only a third are using their licences, and amongst the 25-45 age bracket, the figure is more like only a fifth are using their licences!
Sidevalve:
There’s never been a shortage of drivers.
There is however a shortage of good experienced drivers who are not willing to work for [zb] wages.
That’s about the strength of it in a nutshell
Sent from my SM-A600FN using Tapatalk
Also known as the great race to the bottom.
Luckily I have recently gone on the books for a company transporting their own goods. Their mindset is pay well for the right people and have a wholistic outlook. Control their deliveries, keep their customers happy and look after the kit.
Sent from my SM-A600FN using Tapatalk
Yup.
The best jobs to be in, where you are part and parcel of the service provided to the customer, not a hire and reward transport operation.
Where this falls down is when people manage to get jobs in such places and then forget in days what they were glad, days ago , to get away from, the urge to throttle the sods is strong in these cases Obiwan.
I’ve been put on a salary to keep me. This time of year, only needed about two days a week. Then end of feb to about June about 60 hours a week. So at the minute I’m doing a couple of days a week agency to keep my eye in with artics. Helps to keep me grounded as what the average job is nowadays.
Rjan:
Half? If I’ve remembered the statistics correctly, only a third are using their licences, and amongst the 25-45 age bracket, the figure is more like only a fifth are using their licences!
I suspect half is probably closer; the figure you quote is more likely to be specifically for the logistics industry, as opposed to stuff like council lorries and the like which of course require the licence but wouldn’t count as “transport” in the sense in which we would apply it. Add to that the considerable (albeit shrinking) number of servicemen who hold an HGV but don’t work in the industry yet.
peirre:
As for Brexit … that will start as soon as the DFS sale ends
I once tried to find a Reader’s Digest “loser in the first round”… I ended up not being able to find the Swindon Depot, that had disappeared off the face of the Earth in the interim…
) or in fact the correlation of that with the same guy being a competent and proficient driver.