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This seen this advert online, £7.68 for class one ADR night work? Ouch!
All hours worked in excess of 40 attract premium payments of either time and a half or double time
£7.68 basic x 40 hours = £307.20
probably 10 hours time and a half at £11.52 = £115.20
and maybe another 10 at double time at £15.36 = £153.60
Total £576.00
plus subsistance and meal allowances of around £100 tax free.
So not as shocking as some are willing to work for.
Thats almost a normal rate for my part of the country .
Lollipop men-women on only a pound less…theres lots of skill attached to that walking into the road and holding a sign up…but theres allways some bod willing to do it. 
Hiya… i was on £9 per hour stacking shelves at Tesco 10 years ago
.i don’t know whats happening with the transport job, its going to pot.
John
This seen this advert online, £7.68 for class one ADR night work? Ouch!
having read the advert the wage is made up with overtime! still wrong though… but some mug will do it!
B…
Cracks me up they describe £7.68 as a “good rate of pay”. What can you pay for with that? Pay the interest to some bald moneylender, but nothing else on top?
Slaves ‘R’ Us.
If they’re advertising it, then they’ve obviously not been able to fill it as quick as they’d like.
Funny thing is, I’ve never actually met someone who took a “jobcentre” job, and made a career out of it (ie was still doing it years later) so I guess this is the norm, and has been for some time.
Even back in 1984 when the local dockyard laid everyone off, I recall the JobCentre being referred to as “The Joke Shop”. This predates the “gonna get some hot stuff” shuffle to boot! 
As far as I am concerned, this was, and remains Thatcher’s legacy: The impossibility of the ordinary working man to get a proper well-paid job any more. Well-paid means the basic covers all the overheads, and puts food on the table. Overtime was for savings and holidays. Days that have long gone. Nowdays one works all the overtime you can get just to pay the mortgage and put food on the table, only to be called “feckless” by the middle classes who think we’re all scumbags for “not having any savings”. Well try paying us a bit more then you tory-voting scumbags! 
Rant Over.
Today’s businesses make money out of waste and underpaying their staff. Profits come from enforced impoverishment.
I know a few people with well-paid jobs, and they’re all in the businesses of fiddling people, which I still find unconscionable.
Good grief, Lady Thatchers been out of the job for donkeys years, you can’t still be blaming her for the country’s ills.
Her son a certain Anthony Bliar opened the floodgates to unlimited immigration to all and sundry and those who replaced him carry on in the same vein, that has had the biggest effect on the pay situation in the country.
Playing with incomes via tax credits hasn’t helped for various reasons.
The job on offer is paying paying peanuts, hopefully they will get a suitable monkey who will cost them dearly in damage and cutomer dissatisfaction, he will.
Its quite obvious the job is crap, the fact its being advertised at all qualifies it as garbage, proper jobs never get advertised, they never have.
Always go for a good basic. £10 plus. Then if overtime is in short supply you still get 40 x £10 = £400. For ADR night work I would want £12 min.
Juddian:
Good grief, Lady Thatchers been out of the job for donkeys years, you can’t still be blaming her for the country’s ills.Her son a certain Anthony Bliar opened the floodgates to unlimited immigration to all and sundry and those who replaced him carry on in the same vein, that has had the biggest effect on the pay situation in the country.
Playing with incomes via tax credits hasn’t helped for various reasons.The job on offer is paying paying peanuts, hopefully they will get a suitable monkey who will cost them dearly in damage and cutomer dissatisfaction, he will.
Its quite obvious the job is crap, the fact its being advertised at all qualifies it as garbage, proper jobs never get advertised, they never have.
All the time employers can fiddle the liabilities, either by false claims on the insurance, or ducking the opening ended risk in laying it themselves, the problem will continue.
If a firm stood to go bust should more than say, 5% of drivers smash their vehicles up, lose a customer, or otherwise cause financial loss to the firm running into thousands, then we’d soon see a work regime that would have employers not only paying top dollar, but avoiding like the plague anyone not upto scratch in any and all ways.
Insurance is one of those businesses of fiddling people though (see above), and in their case it’s their own mug customer Underwriters who might find a lot more claim against their pot than they previously expected.
The plum underwriting pots are reserved for the insurance company’s best buddies. This would be expensive cars driven by good drivers who never make claims. Nice little earner that, and for little or no risk. The “public” underwriter on the other hand, who might be a Lloyds name as well gets landed with the crap, and faces financial ruin if there’s suddenly a stack of claims.
Car dealerships don’t give a ■■■■ how good a customer’s driving is, providing they can come up with the cash/credit to make the purchase.
If I were a haulage customer, I’d demand top-quality staff to handle my business with that firm, and would go straight elsewhere if I didn’t get it. 
Hauliers pitching me with “We use chatty old cheap vehicles to keep costs down, and lots of immigrants and '6-points OK# drivers to cut costs further” would be watching my receding back as I made a hasty exit! 
I’ll not have my proverbial 25 ton of Scotch nicked, smashed, or otherwise lost in the system because some some stingy operator with the wrong transport priorities has cut corners - that’s for sure! 
Give me a firm who’s so sure of it’s drivers, that they’ll personally pay out cash within 48 hours to the value of any load that duly goes astray…
Until such firms are commonplace, I’ll continue assuming the business is full of crooks looking to pay “no responsibility” wages to it’s staff, but leave them holding the baby when things go wrong.
dan dare:
Always go for a good basic. £10 plus. Then if overtime is in short supply you still get 40 x £10 = £400. For ADR night work I would want £12 min.
“Basic pay” is measured in £ per week/month. Once you’ve established that, one then wants to see as few hours as possible in the contract.
Thus, £500pw ‘salary’ for a ‘50 hour week’ might look like £10ph, but you might be working 75+ hours a week because you’re running pallets with a lot of unpaid POA with that particular firm.
Another firm paying a mere £400pw knocks spots off it though, because it’s hours-u-like and only 36 of them per week, including the POA and breaks to boot! 
‘Less’ is often ‘more’ therefore. Bugger the hourly rates - “Less hours” is the future.
If you cut your hours more than they cut your pay, you’ll gain in real terms. Then, when proper and strong economic recovery finally arrives (14 years away in my estimate) you’ll be able to negotiate “extra” hours to your contract at actual overtime rates, rather than be told "Sorry bud, you’re working legal maximums for flat pay already, so they’ll never be any overtime - just more unpaid POA!"
Don’t let it go there. 
limeyphil:
All hours worked in excess of 40 attract premium payments of either time and a half or double time
£7.68 basic x 40 hours = £307.20
probably 10 hours time and a half at £11.52 = £115.20
and maybe another 10 at double time at £15.36 = £153.60
Total £576.00
plus subsistance and meal allowances of around £100 tax free.
So not as shocking as some are willing to work for.
+1 on my basic know all ■■■■■ say "I wouldnt work for that "! but believe me I earn alot more then my basic and alot more then alot of the ■■■■■■■■■ on here .
But hey ho I know Shelf stackers earn more per hour but shelf stackers dont clear anywhere near what I take a month and never will 
That is shocking and its also for night work
Easter-Star:
limeyphil:
All hours worked in excess of 40 attract premium payments of either time and a half or double time
£7.68 basic x 40 hours = £307.20
probably 10 hours time and a half at £11.52 = £115.20
and maybe another 10 at double time at £15.36 = £153.60
Total £576.00
plus subsistance and meal allowances of around £100 tax free.
So not as shocking as some are willing to work for.+1 on my basic know all [zb] say "I wouldnt work for that "! but believe me I earn alot more then my basic and alot more then alot of the [zb] on here .
But hey ho I know Shelf stackers earn more per hour but shelf stackers dont clear anywhere near what I take a month and never will
Does it pay your ramsgate mortgage though?
Working more hours than the next guy is nothing to brag about.
60 hours for £576 is still crap, especially in this part of the world, and also illegal if worked week after week to boot.
Sometimes you need to evaluate the advert for what it really is. It could say national minimum wage, But the important thing is the bottom line, The money in your pocket.
About 8 years ago i was on £80 per day, For as many hours as the job took. My take home was the same every week, £587.00. Holiday pay wasn’t great, But who cared?
Easter-Star:
limeyphil:
All hours worked in excess of 40 attract premium payments of either time and a half or double time
£7.68 basic x 40 hours = £307.20
probably 10 hours time and a half at £11.52 = £115.20
and maybe another 10 at double time at £15.36 = £153.60
Total £576.00
plus subsistance and meal allowances of around £100 tax free.
So not as shocking as some are willing to work for.+1 on my basic know all [zb] say "I wouldnt work for that "! but believe me I earn alot more then my basic and alot more then alot of the [zb] on here .
But hey ho I know Shelf stackers earn more per hour but shelf stackers dont clear anywhere near what I take a month and never will
Post a wage slip please.
I know guys who laugh at my weekly wage & say they wouldn’t get out of bed for it , they earn good money a week but for that their doing 70 plus hours , working shifts of 6 on 2 off , starting at 3,4,5, or 6 and doing 10 to 12 hours a day some work 10 on 4 off, ok its not driving but like I say to them I start at 8 & finish at 4ish usually , I’m home by 5 every night & never work a weekend or bank holiday , all the social gatherings I can attend & I’m off for two weeks at xmas , if I worked 70+ hours a week in my job my wage would ■■■■ on theirs from a great height so who’s the mug …