Hi ovlov…We knew you would remember these,will keep a look out for the Borderer for you.By the way do you remember a lad who worked for them called Herbert (BERT) Caulfield at all
JOHN.
Hello John
I do remember Bert very well he was of quite high standing at Flynns. He got to shout at all the other Irish lads there 
. I also remember a story about him at Sadlers when with a 2800DAF he drove somebody asked him why he had a piece of wood jammed in the passenger window he said that there was no window winder on it!!! He didn’t realise it was electric and had barred it down with a screwdriver and stuck the wood in.
Hi Ovlov. Yes thats the very man himself.I remember that incident with the window he slept with it open for the 1st couple of nights because after getting it down he coudn’t get it back up again and then when he did he jammed it with the wood (new motor as well)it was the topic of conversation for ages.I worked with Bert for 15+ yrs at Sadlers,he became very very ill and had to leave,not seen or heard from him for a long while now but we always send him and his wife jackie a card at christmas and get one back in return but funny enough never got one this time round hope he’s ok.I will ask around some of the other lads.
JOHN
Richard Johnson & Nephew on Forge Lane Beswick Manchester,I remember in the 60s queues of trucks waiting on this road either to tip or load.Whoever took these pictures must have done so on a sunday as normally this road would have been chocker with trucks.
JOHN
Hi Tipit, John Harrison sent me this postcard a couple of weeks ago, does anybody remember seeing this tipper in or around Rochdale ?.
Regards Steve.
Stanfield:
R J & N Forge Lane Beswick Manchester.
Stanfield,
I wish I had a £1 for every coil of wire I loaded for Smith of Maddiston out of that entrance where the tractor is during the night shift,I could retire to the Carribean along with others on this site!!!
Rgds,
David
Stanfield:
Richard Johnson & Nephew on Forge Lane Beswick Manchester,I remember in the 60s queues of trucks waiting on this road either to tip or load.Whoever took these pictures must have done so on a sunday as normally this road would have been chocker with trucks.
JOHN
I dont know the day,but it was 5 to 2 in the afternoon John!!!
Rgds,
David 
I went past there 2 or 3 times a day 1980-82 between Manchester Abbatoir and Widnes and always had to have a nosey through them doors. Healds Dairies had a fruitjuice plant further up,at Lord North Street and after the Wire works finished used part of it for storing full Pallets.
boden:
I went past there 2 or 3 times a day 1980-82 between Manchester Abbatoir and Widnes and always had to have a nosey through them doors. Healds Dairies had a fruitjuice plant further up,at Lord North Street and after the Wire works finished used part of it for storing full Pallets.
Were you running to Granox on the West Bank Dock Estate in Widnes boden? It was an animal by-products plant past Albright and Wilsons.
One of James Booth’s (Bolton) Trader’s tipping at Pamona Dock (Salford) in 1964.
Chris Webb:
boden:
I went past there 2 or 3 times a day 1980-82 between Manchester Abbatoir and Widnes and always had to have a nosey through them doors. Healds Dairies had a fruitjuice plant further up,at Lord North Street and after the Wire works finished used part of it for storing full Pallets.Were you running to Granox on the West Bank Dock Estate in Widnes boden? It was an animal by-products plant past Albright and Wilsons.
Yuk, Granox, could smell that place from Speke Airport 
When you came out of there you could smell it on your clothes, your wagon, your ropes and sheets up your nose, eeyukk 
Ray
flishflunk:
Chris Webb:
boden:
I went past there 2 or 3 times a day 1980-82 between Manchester Abbatoir and Widnes and always had to have a nosey through them doors. Healds Dairies had a fruitjuice plant further up,at Lord North Street and after the Wire works finished used part of it for storing full Pallets.Were you running to Granox on the West Bank Dock Estate in Widnes boden? It was an animal by-products plant past Albright and Wilsons.
Yuk, Granox, could smell that place from Speke Airport
When you came out of there you could smell it on your clothes, your wagon, your ropes and sheets up your nose, eeyukk
Ray
You could whiff Granox from t’Isle of Man and about twice a month we had a 6000 gall delivery there which took over three hours to gravitate off the wagon.
Like you say Ray everything stank of the bloody place,it was worse than Prosper de Mulders and the FMC sites.
Chris
I certainly was running into Granox which became part of De Mulders in 1980,and from then on us Bury based drivers were gradually got rid of.Prior to running direct into Widnes, the offal had been shipped to Doncaster and before that to Nuneaton and Driffield overnight by Dewsbury Haulage from Bury, although a night man from Doncaster had always come in for the fat An O/D from Donny would sometimes come in during the day for a load as well. The money was’nt bad and it was fairly local work,a mixer driver stopped alongside me on Princess Parkway and shouted How much? I said 200(actually a bit less) he said he would’nt do it for 500, I could understand his point of view,drivers either lasted a day or stayed on and as has been pointed out the smell never went away,it was’nt unknown for outside fitters and tyremen to refuse to work on the vehicles and loading shovels. I had a Leyland Buffalo wagon and drag inherited from Granox though eventually ran mainly solo,nobody believes me when I say its one of the best wagons I have ever had. I was actually spare man after the Granox takeover and alternated with another driver on the Manchester job.When I was’nt doing that I drove HIAB equipped Tippers going to smaller places-other than British Beef at Bamber Bridge- which had little skips on wheels and you tipped in the back.I think I’m right in saying I would’nt be allowed to operate these sort of vehicles nowadays without taking some sort of test,what a load of cobblers. Manchester Abbatoir and Market was mad busy through the 70’s when I went down there as a drivers mate, especially when they had the export licence,a Berliet from Corsica was regular visitor and a lot of other UK outfits were tipping and loading, UCC ,Southern Road Transport, Cadwallader,Walter Hatton, Hardings of Frome,Frigoscandia and a Scania 76 wagon and drag which may have belonged to Fridged Freight. The juice place I mentioned, later I think, went to Waterford Dairies ,maybe they bought Healds and around 1998-2000 I used to load out of there and around 1989-1991 before going on permanent nights, I tipped in GGD at Maltby where you worked Chris.
Eyup boden,we may well have met,I was on regular afters at Maltby from 1986 - 1993.
Granox is one place that will always stick in my mind.I once got a lift on a dodgy with a Prosper de Mulder driver from Bentley,Doncaster site.He was on regular nights to Silvertown and said it was the best job he had ever had,smell or no smell.
The FMC sites seemed to be cleaner,same as Prospers but the smell was always there…
Granox was one on it’s own 
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Cheers Chris, the night man who came into us went back to Doncaster and then down to the Nuneaton site at Hartshill. At the last roundup they were on mega money but in October 74,they were switched if they wanted, to become Owner drivers with their existing Units or a new one financed by De Mulders. The Artic driver at Bury as far as Iam aware was’nt given the option so had to take the money and went to Reliance Tankers,although I had used his Unit for yard shunting months previous to that as Dewsbury Haulage were already doing all of the night work and some day work. For grim places Cluttons at Wrexham,also owned by De Mulders at the time took some beating. They sent me in for a one-off load on a Friday afternoon in 1981 with slow but sure Merc 2418 wagon and drag for a load back to Widnes,even I was careful where I walked when I got out of the cab.I stood on the side of the wagon while I watched the shovel man load the trailer It did’nt take long for me to shout enough!, and I could start heading the right way.
Here are a couple of old photo’s found in the Manchester Library images again.
These S-types were waiting to unload at the old Daily Mirror building on Withy Grove in 1959,
close to what would now be the “goods entrance” to the Manchester Arndale.
Another taken on Withy Grove again this time in 1973, of 2 Reiver’s “Peck’s” from Ardwick, and a Ready Mix.
Here’s another one found by Tipit… D308 series Dodge tipper operated by a scrap metal company called Silvermans,anyone remember them at all.
Here’s an oldie moving part of a train from Beyer Peacocks foundry at gorton M/chester.It looks like the hauliers name is Marstons Road Services 
Taken a couple of weeks ago in North Wales. K9 HAD
Ardwick Goods Yard
Ray
Well done flishflunk(Ray) you have just answer a question that Tipit ask at the beginning of this thread(page 1) which was does anyone remember or know where Thrutchleys yard was in Manchester,and you have found it in Ardwick cheers mate
JOHN