whisperingsmith:
> Carryfast:
> Blimey the so face fits club actually provides lifetime membership and that’s just agency work. 
> Let me guess ‘inexperienced’ drivers have to ‘start at the bottom’ on local multi drop or driving a hiab/ scaffold wagon around the streets unless/until they are accepted into the ‘club’.
>
> Which is probably why at 74 you’re supposedly still being asked to do regular international runs.
> But at 62 I can’t get a job driving cars for the local garages because of too much competition from younger workers who are rightly doing whatever it takes to avoid driving a truck.
> You couldn’t make it up.
You might be 62 CF, but you still have to start at the bottom, your problem seems to be that you never got off the bottom - or maybe your bottom??
Your CV doesn’t make good reading does it ■■ add to that your attitude issues and I think you were very very lucky to ever have a driving job.
Did you ever get a recommendation from your peers? if so you might have stood a better chance of being given a new Dustcart & who knows a progression ladder into ‘Face Fits Land’, where 99.99999999999% of driver’s faces fit.
Which part of commendations for my ‘attitude’ didn’t you understand.
Ironically there are numerous examples of the Middle East elite crashing trucks in a big way so it’s no wonder that your benchmark is going to be wide of the mark when you see someone with a clean record who could handle 400 miles + per shift 5 nights per week for 15 years without ditching the thing or worse.
As I said it’s an industry infested by a face fits clique who aren’t always as good or fair as they like to think they are and at best degenerating into a local delivery service and at worse using naive new drivers’ enthiusiasm to fill labouring roles and new drivers are voting with their feet accordingly.
OP beware.
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So far we’ve heard that there’s no such thing as hod carriers or driver labourers.
Now it’s no such thing as class 2 agency driver scaffolding truck assignements.
With your privileged face fits fast track background in the industry you’ve obviously never worked in those dregs of it subject to sanction by the Jobcentre for refusal or you wouldn’t talk such zb.
Full time class 2 driver bs.Good luck with telling the Jobcentre that you’re a ‘full time’ Class 2 driver not a class 2 driver/labourer.
‘Mainly driving’ yeah right a few miles between building sites then labourer for the rest of the time. 
This is the reality and even then the muppets are still calling for ‘experience’.Nothing there about ‘full time’ drivers v scaffold erectors.Here’s another clue all those different types of agency assignments shown aren’t optional.Although maybe in your case they would be that’s why you can afford to talk zb.
[uk.indeed.com/HGV-Class-2-Drive … 7135909429]
(https://uk.indeed.com/HGV-Class-2-Driver-Scaffolding-jobs?vjk=3aed70a962b3e088&advn=870537135909429)
uk.indeed.com/HGV-Class-2-Drive … 1b16b49e9f
As I said if only your constant barrage of privileged bs was actually true.
Then I wouldn’t be facing competition for work, by younger drivers who should be driving trucks,not bleedin cars for local garages and fleet movements, because they know where the road transport industry is heading.
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Strange, until we moved on to W&D in 1999, I’d spent the previous 15 years delivering building materials on a class2 with HIAB. In that time I delivered all over the UK, usually out 4 nights a week, and coming close to maxing out my driving hours most weeks. In all that time the only time I handballed anything was if the amount was too small to make it worth setting the HIAB up. Gloves were only for keeping my hands clean! At the time we had 100+ drivers doing the same. We moved on to W&D with HIAB or Moffett but we still do the same work pattern
The mere sniff of a fanny and he was a hooligan, whisperingsmith , you owe me a new keyboard as I have spilt my drink on it from laughing too much with your funny observation.
Carryfast:
whisperingsmith:
> Carryfast:
> Blimey the so face fits club actually provides lifetime membership and that’s just agency work. [emoji38]
> Let me guess ‘inexperienced’ drivers have to ‘start at the bottom’ on local multi drop or driving a hiab/ scaffold wagon around the streets unless/until they are accepted into the ‘club’.
>
> Which is probably why at 74 you’re supposedly still being asked to do regular international runs.
> But at 62 I can’t get a job driving cars for the local garages because of too much competition from younger workers who are rightly doing whatever it takes to avoid driving a truck.
> You couldn’t make it up.
You might be 62 CF, but you still have to start at the bottom, your problem seems to be that you never got off the bottom - or maybe your bottom??
Your CV doesn’t make good reading does it ■■ add to that your attitude issues and I think you were very very lucky to ever have a driving job.
Did you ever get a recommendation from your peers? if so you might have stood a better chance of being given a new Dustcart & who knows a progression ladder into ‘Face Fits Land’, where 99.99999999999% of driver’s faces fit.
Which part of commendations for my ‘attitude’ didn’t you understand.
Ironically there are numerous examples of the Middle East elite crashing trucks in a big way so it’s no wonder that your benchmark is going to be wide of the mark when you see someone with a clean record who could handle 400 miles + per shift 5 nights per week for 15 years without ditching the thing or worse.
As I said it’s an industry infested by a face fits clique who aren’t always as good or fair as they like to think they are and at best degenerating into a local delivery service and at worse using naive new drivers’ enthiusiasm to fill labouring roles and new drivers are voting with their feet accordingly.
OP beware.
Haven’t you said you favour night trunks?
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Euro etc requires (or certainly did in the time you wanted it) as WS eloquently says, driving (Not just pedal to metal empty m-way stuff) diplomacy, (Not just shout at the foreigners how it’s gonna be) load and tip interaction, (securing the load, And straightening it out when you ■■■■ up and it moves!) getting your hands mucky, getting the papers right, (and getting out the crap when they ain’t) changing your own wheels when punctured (maybe you have got a DKV tool kit, but if the customs closes soon and the nearest fitters are 3 hrs away, can you loose a day?)
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Ooocchhh away man
Carryfast:
’waffle
Waffle waffle China scaffolding traffic Jaguar 8x4’ and so on a so forth
Surely I don’t have to explain question marks to you?
switchlogic:
aren’t they In actual fact driven by scaffolding erectors rather than full time drivers?
See that squiggly line at end? In English they are known as question marks to indicate what is written before is a question in this case meaning that
Carryfast:
Now it’s no such thing as class 2 agency driver scaffolding truck assignements.
Was a question posed by me about an industry I don’t know that you decided to attach your own meaning to. I know the concept that people ask questions that people answer is completely alien to you as Trucknets resident know all but most of us enjoy learning about our industry / jobs from our colleagues
Carryfast:
all those different types of agency assignments shown aren’t optional.Although maybe in your case they would be that’s why you can afford to talk zb.
Hang on now! Hold your horses! Are you honestly telling me that you effed up agency work too?! You’re like a walking disaster zone employment wise. It’s one of the main reasons people work on agency, the freedom. Was for me. Well freedom and money
Carryfast:
Then I wouldn’t be facing competition for work, by younger drivers who should be driving trucks,not bleedin cars for local garages and fleet movements, because they know where the road transport industry is heading.
So medically retiring when you were in early forties was just a skive?
Carryfast:
Which part of commendations for my ‘attitude’ didn’t you understand.
Ironically there are numerous examples of the Middle East elite crashing trucks in a big way so it’s no wonder that your benchmark is going to be wide of the mark when you see someone with a clean record who could handle 400 miles + per shift 5 nights per week for 15 years without ditching the thing or worse.
As I said it’s an industry infested by a face fits clique who aren’t always as good or fair as they like to think they are and at best degenerating into a local delivery service and at worse using naive new drivers’ enthiusiasm to fill labouring roles and new drivers are voting with their feet accordingly.
OP beware.
Oh that’s a classic. Now the man who’d probably wet himself if he had to take a truck abroad thinks he’s better than Middle East drivers! Bugger me I’m impressed at your monumental levels of self confidence. Esp considering they are built on quicksand
Carryfast:
you see someone with a clean record who could handle 400 miles + per shift 5 nights per week for 15 years without ditching the thing or worse.
Yeah but it also made you dull as dishwater. As anyone will tell you it’s the trips when everything goes wrong that often make the best memories.
Carryfast:
OP beware.
OP beware, He hasn’t driven a truck this century
Simple question for you CF, seeing as you were so capable of doing ME work:-
You have a Tri-Axle Step Frame tilt with 25+ tons on for Doha, what tyre pressure do you put in the trailer tyres (They have Tubes) ■■?
And what other, if any, precautions would you take with those wheels/tyres before you left the UK ■■
whisperingsmith:
Simple question for you CF, seeing as you were so capable of doing ME work:-
You have a Tri-Axle Step Frame tilt with 25+ tons on for Doha, what tyre pressure do you put in the trailer tyres (They have Tubes) ■■?
And what other, if any, precautions would you take with those wheels/tyres before you left the UK ■■
Ah. I know the answer to that one…
Easy.
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And I’ve never done Middle East…
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I’m sure many, many, other members here are in the same boat too.
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whisperingsmith:
Simple question for you CF, seeing as you were so capable of doing ME work:-
You have a Tri-Axle Step Frame tilt with 25+ tons on for Doha, what tyre pressure do you put in the trailer tyres (They have Tubes) ■■?
And what other, if any, precautions would you take with those wheels/tyres before you left the UK ■■
He will probably return with the correct answer
… after frantically searching Google for 3 hours!
Just Googled Carryfast Middle East & found this - so he could have had a job if he had the balls for it.
> Carryfast:
> Change your own wheels how many spare wheels and tyres have you got stored in your locker with all your tools.Even if you had enough of them Euro land ain’t the Australian outback.
A box of spare tubes, patches & lots of glue CF, you didn’t just change wheels, you fixed punctures until the tubes were gone then you fitted new tubes.
Now back to the Question to show you could do it:-
You have a Tri-Axle Step Frame tilt with 25+ tons on for Doha, what tyre pressure do you put in the trailer tyres (They have Tubes) ■■?
And what other, if any, precautions would you take with those wheels/tyres before you left the UK ■■
Carryfast:
What the OP is seeing here is exactly the type of predictable laughable excuses put up by the chosen elites to defend their coveted privileged positions.
You know like anyone can do whatever they choose to do.
While at the same time saying that those who’s faces don’t fit have to take all the zb to get a ‘start’ where they’ll stay.
No what is being seen is people who have actually been drivers this century giving real world first hand advice. Advice like anything is possible, there are no closed doors with a decent attitude. Without wishing to blow my own trumpet too much I’m one of the loudest most vocal champions young and inexperienced drivers have in this industry and over the years I’ve helped many with advice and into jobs. What have you done exactly? Anonymously ■■■■■ and moan on the sidelines? How very constructive of you.
Carryfast:
Change your own wheels how many spare wheels and tyres have you got stored in your locker with all your tools.Even if you had enough of them Euro land ain’t the Australian outback.
You really are mind bogglingly clueless aren’t you! Just as well you never got the chance at proper euro work, you’d have been found out as a fraud at the first puncture. As it was unfortunately for you they found you as a fraud before interview even it seems. Got to love the international transport business, one of my favourite things is their inability to suffer fools gladly
Even the locals got us to help them out as facilities were so limited.
Here we are helping Afghans repair a tyre & inflate it near Kandahar in what we now know as Helmund Province.
And sometimes (not often) we had to deal with much worse
tmcassett:
whisperingsmith:
Simple question for you CF, seeing as you were so capable of doing ME work:-
You have a Tri-Axle Step Frame tilt with 25+ tons on for Doha, what tyre pressure do you put in the trailer tyres (They have Tubes) ■■?
And what other, if any, precautions would you take with those wheels/tyres before you left the UK ■■
He will probably return with the correct answer
… after frantically searching Google for 3 hours!
Not much point in asking the question in that case.
I’ll let you enlighten those of us not worthy of answering it.
I do know the issues and links regarding running in high temperatures and tyre pressures you know somtimes higher pressures can actually reduce tyre temperatures while sometimes high pressures combined with high temperatures will actually blow a tyre apart.
Precautions haven’t got a clue other than those regardless of destination.
trucken:
Strange, until we moved on to W&D in 1999, I’d spent the previous 15 years delivering building materials on a class2 with HIAB. In that time I delivered all over the UK, usually out 4 nights a week, and coming close to maxing out my driving hours most weeks. In all that time the only time I handballed anything was if the amount was too small to make it worth setting the HIAB up. Gloves were only for keeping my hands clean! At the time we had 100+ drivers doing the same. We moved on to W&D with HIAB or Moffett but we still do the same work pattern
Yeah right all those agency jobs on building materials and scaffolding work are distance work and no handball or yard site labouring duties.
Feel free to back it with some job ads you know like I did.
As I said young workers prefer to earn less to drive a car than to earn more to drive a truck because of the nature of the recruitment and progression regime and the quality of work on offer.While the employers whine about a ‘driver shortage’.
Who would have thought it.
Even I on ‘locals’ (compared to Middle East) have changed wheels a few times. Including in my first video. Virginia would send me on the longer runs Christmas week as I didn’t have as far to get home as the Irish lads which was fair enough. Then Operation Stack happened. Then endless snow. Then a flat tyre. Three Irish trucks drove through the rest area in Germany where I was changing in it in a -5c snowstorm, none of them even acknowledged me! This was 3/4 days before Christmas. I had to get up to Sweden tip and reload and home to Wales. As I said in an earlier post things going wrong make the best memories imo.
The video
youtu.be/og7yFWv8_cQ
And just to educate Carryfast we carried two spares. Usually a super single and a drive or steer wheel
Carryfast:
As I said young workers prefer to earn less to drive a car than to earn more to drive a truck
I imagine the closest you get to a anyone under the age of 50 is peering out your net curtains on your front window at some rowdy youths and calling the police about them for the 30th time that day because one of them ‘looked at you funny’
Carryfast:
Franglais:
Haven’t you said you favour night trunks?
I actually said I favour full load trailer box swaps just like anyone else with any sense.
That could be night runs it could be day runs sometimes it could be a combination of both depending on running times.It could be international general haulage it could be international trunking.
But obviously no such thing as international trunking in your limited experience.
Change your own wheels how many spare wheels and tyres have you got stored in your locker with all your tools.Even if you had enough of them Euro land ain’t the Australian outback.
What the OP is seeing here is exactly the type of predictable laughable excuses put up by the chosen elites to defend their coveted privileged positions.
You know like anyone can do whatever they choose to do.
While at the same time saying that those who’s faces don’t fit have to take all the zb to get a ‘start’ where they’ll stay.
Then they moan about staying out on the road too long missing their homelife while others are lumbered with a career of local work zb.
My experience is limited, yes. Never taken a truck past Casablanca, Athens or Budapest. Loads of people with more miles and time than me.
But my point stands, as a “driver” you assume responsibilities for more than just turning the steering wheel and putting right boot on the floor. When time is tight (!) you may need to swap a wheel rather than wait for the locals to come out (and rip you for a brand new Michelin rather than put on a spare or plug a hole)
You are not there to get from A to B asap. You are there to turn a profit, so your boss can pay you. No need to be a brown noser, just do a good job.
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You favour full loads?
I’ be done a few, but as others have said the multi can be lots of fun too.
Drops into farms are more difficult than an RDC off a m-way junction, but way more interesting.
Ten, twenty or more collections around hillside villages gives a bit more interest than driving hours on a m-way.
The people in small businesses don’t deal with 20 drivers every hour, and are much friendlier than the over worked staff at an RDC office in a concrete city.
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