Tarmaceater:
So strawberry milkshake is not ADR even though an allergic reaction to strawberries can you give you anaphylactic shock and shut the respiratory system down, look what happened to the pretty girl who died on flight after eating a sandwich ?
That’s a very good point and one of the reasons why I insist on glueing an orange board to the back of my head when I eat peanuts.
You may scoff but I can assure you that after many abortive attempts at fixing aforementioned orange plate to my head, glue in fact provides the best solution. My early attempts at spot welding the plate proved embarrassing and quite frankly painful. Go with what you know is my ethos now on sticking random stuff to my head!
As long as your head-mounted orange plate matches the usual dimensions and won’t become detached after 15 mins in a fire, and your peanuts are in a package, not tank or bulk tipper, you’re ADR compliant and good to go
Glue can cause burns if “hot melt”.
Allergic reactions, and chemical burns are notable other hazards.
Some glues give off infammable vapours.
Fumes and vapours are potentially toxic, and/or soporific and nauseous, and of course can lead to irrational behaviour if one is intoxicated by them.
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The obvious and safe solution is to nail the orange board to your head, Mr Maoster.
(That`ll be fire resistant too!)
Tarmaceater:
So strawberry milkshake is not ADR even though an allergic reaction to strawberries can you give you anaphylactic shock and shut the respiratory system down, look what happened to the pretty girl who died on flight after eating a sandwich ?
My neighbours brother died whilst swimming, should fresh water be on the ADR list?
There’s no rhyme or reason, this chemical usually causes death within minutes of inhalation, yet it’s not classified as DG, nor is diesel.
Dihydrogen monoxide:
is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the “greenhouse effect”.
may cause severe burns.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain “junk-foods” and other food products.
Star down under.:
There’s no rhyme or reason, this chemical usually causes death within minutes of inhalation, yet it’s not classified as DG, nor is diesel.
Dihydrogen monoxide:
is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the “greenhouse effect”.
may cause severe burns.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain “junk-foods” and other food products.
Are you sure diesel isn`t haz?
Take your point about about Dihydrogen Monoxide though.
Another non haz compound that has escaped the listings contains the poisonous and corrosive chlorine gas and the dangerous metal sodium that violently reacts with water and in its compound form can cause serious health problems! And as if that isnt enough it is sometimes found in takeaway food outlets in combination with CH3COOH. (one of the carbolic acids)
I was looking to see if I needed to put this on my horse box, its Class 4.1
Yeah, Diesel Dave has covered that one on these boards previously: it’s not subject to ADR… however, you might need it if you’re going anywhere by sea with your horsebox as it’s covered by IMDG freightlink.co.uk/knowledge … eclaration
Star down under.:
There’s no rhyme or reason, this chemical usually causes death within minutes of inhalation, yet it’s not classified as DG, nor is diesel.
Erm… yes it is: Diesel is UN1202, Class 3, PG III
Screenshots from ADR2021
I think perhaps you may have misunderstood this document below, which states:
“Diesel with a flash-point above 100°C is not considered dangerous for carriage and is not therefore covered by the CDG 2009.”
Star down under.:
There’s no rhyme or reason, this chemical usually causes death within minutes of inhalation, yet it’s not classified as DG, nor is diesel.
Erm… yes it is: Diesel is UN1202, Class 3, PG III
Screenshots from ADR2021
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I think perhaps you may have misunderstood this document below, which states:
“Diesel with a flash-point above 100°C is not considered dangerous for carriage and is not therefore covered by the CDG 2009.”
You’re correct that Diesel is a regulated substance in ADR, but I believe the chap who said that it doesn’t count as dangerous goods is in Australia, which is not a member country of ADR, so you may well both be right!!
Interesting, I thought DG was an international agreement/law.
In Australia diesel is not DG, but we do voluntarily placard it, Combustible Liquid, as a courtesy. Carried with Motor Spirits, it changes that product’s classification.
Wheelnut , there is a great white shark that has got lost and turned the wrong direction and heading to the UK , probably in time for the Cornish tourist invasion, but getting an orange board on a shark could prove hazardous.
Star down under.:
Interesting, I thought DG was an international agreement/law.
Here in the UK we have a separate document of “approved derogations” for domestic UK use which can be a little different from ADR in certain respects.
I haven’t read this document in the link myself but I’m guessing that this might also include your own exemptions for domestic use in the way that ours does - I half expect Diesel Dave (consummate professional that he is) might already have read this at some point
Star down under.:
Interesting, I thought DG was an international agreement/law.
Here in the UK we have a separate document of “approved derogations” for domestic UK use which can be a little different from ADR in certain respects.
I haven’t read this document in the link myself but I’m guessing that this might also include your own exemptions for domestic use in the way that ours does - I half expect Diesel Dave (consummate professional that he is) might already have read this at some point
It should be remembered that all DG law stems from the UN ‘Orange Books’ from which the notions common to all DG Regs are UN numbers, UN Classes, UN Packing Groups and UN requirements for packages (there are other UN 'things too) originate.
It should also be remembered that ADR is an international agreement which standardises the international transport of dangerous goods such that the difficulties caused by the use of different languages and different alphabets are mostly avoided. The ADR agreement currently has 51 member countries who have agreed to carry out the international transport of dangerous goods in a standardised way.
Given that national (domestic) transport isn’t international, this leaves the member countries to make their own DG laws that govern their national DG carriage if they wish.
The UK signed up to ADR (IIRC in 1967) but retained national DG law, the current version of which is called CDG 2009 (as amended.) We also have the derogations that Zac referred to, which are called ADTP 2020.
CDG gives force of law to ADR for national, as well as international carriage of DG, but… (and this is just my way of explaining it) … that’s except for the bits of ADR the The Queen doesn’t like, so she gives us certain things (in CDG) which must be done in a ‘British’ way for national carriage.
Yes, it’s tricky, but I think it’s just a good way of preventing the ‘googlers’ from getting the right answers without paying their consultancy fees.