If a firm only has a restricted ops licence, can they sell and charge seperatly for delivery ? or do they have to put the price in as delivered lump ie price per cube?
great question
i would say yes
but some may argue by doing so they have
sold transport as a seperate entity
hitch:
great question
i would say yes
but some may argue by doing so they have
sold transport as a seperate entity
Restricted is fine as it is not anyone elses goods for hire or reward etc
If you’ve sold the concrete bolcks then they’re not your goods are they ? This could be a minefield unless you send out invoices and collect the payment after delivery, then technically they’re still your own goods until the invoice is paid.
Any transport lawyers out there ?
the kaiser:
If you’ve sold the concrete bolcks then they’re not your goods are they ? This could be a minefield unless you send out invoices and collect the payment after delivery, then technically they’re still your own goods until the invoice is paid.
Any transport lawyers out there ?
ducks and runs 
A restricted licence would be fine. The goods are yours that you sell, It dosn’t matter how much you charge for delivery, Or at what point they are paid for.
If you sell a load of gravel from your yard, It will be under restricted o’licence rules. But if your customer wants a big delivery, So you go to the quarry on their behalf, Then deliver direct to them, Then that’s haulage.
limeyphil:
A restricted licence would be fine. The goods are yours that you sell, It dosn’t matter how much you charge for delivery, Or at what point they are paid for.
If you sell a load of gravel from your yard, It will be under restricted o’licence rules. But if your customer wants a big delivery, So you go to the quarry on their behalf, Then deliver direct to them, Then that’s haulage.
Exactly, you can hardly expect your customer to come and collect 5 yards of gobbo in his Mondeo can you?
limeyphil:
A restricted licence would be fine. The goods are yours that you sell, It dosn’t matter how much you charge for delivery, Or at what point they are paid for.
If you sell a load of gravel from your yard, It will be under restricted o’licence rules. But if your customer wants a big delivery, So you go to the quarry on their behalf, Then deliver direct to them, Then that’s haulage.
What if customer orders a full load from you and you collect it from quarry and take it streight to customer, but as far as the paper work is concertned you have paid for it them passed it on to the customer could that be done on a restricted?
AHT:
limeyphil:
A restricted licence would be fine. The goods are yours that you sell, It dosn’t matter how much you charge for delivery, Or at what point they are paid for.
If you sell a load of gravel from your yard, It will be under restricted o’licence rules. But if your customer wants a big delivery, So you go to the quarry on their behalf, Then deliver direct to them, Then that’s haulage.What if customer orders a full load from you and you collect it from quarry and take it streight to customer, but as far as the paper work is concertned you have paid for it them passed it on to the customer could that be done on a restricted?
it should be ok, It’s just about borderline i reckon. the only thing stopping it from being haulage in its own right is that you’re buying the product on behalf of your customer, so the product belongs to you at some stage during the deal.
We had a Vosa guy in our yard a few year back and he commented about our restricted license and he said the same as what has been said here , it should be ok BUT if someone wanted to be silly, if the stock was bought on 28 days terms it opens a mine field !
What sort of concrete? Blocks or liquid? readymix or volumetric?
limeyphil:
A restricted licence would be fine. The goods are yours that you sell, It dosn’t matter how much you charge for delivery, Or at what point they are paid for.
If you sell a load of gravel from your yard, It will be under restricted o’licence rules. But if your customer wants a big delivery, So you go to the quarry on their behalf, Then deliver direct to them, Then that’s haulage.
If the customer pays cash upfront mon and asks for delivery for tuesday surely the goods dont belong to the company anymore so then their engaged in haulage?
Saaamon:
limeyphil:
A restricted licence would be fine. The goods are yours that you sell, It dosn’t matter how much you charge for delivery, Or at what point they are paid for.
If you sell a load of gravel from your yard, It will be under restricted o’licence rules. But if your customer wants a big delivery, So you go to the quarry on their behalf, Then deliver direct to them, Then that’s haulage.If the customer pays cash upfront mon and asks for delivery for tuesday surely the goods dont belong to the company anymore so then their engaged in haulage?
My understanding of ‘your own goods’ is goods that you either manufacture or stock for sale to customers, so the question of the physical ownership of the goods would be irrelevant.
Concrete Blocks OR Liquid Concrete?