Anyone in these parts ever considered or even undertook this line of work? The DWP are breathing down my neck to start actively seeking alternate job avenues following a 2 year, health related (spinal/muscular based) hiatus from the wagons, so a training course is being mooted.I don’t know the first thing about the work and can’t say i’m overly enthused at the prospect, but l understand you need a basic qualification to be considered.I like the idea of mobile work,checking premises,lock,alarms… etc in theory; to say nothing of getting my own bed for the night; following years of the exact opposite scenario.Working the doors isn’t too appealing ,to put it mildly, and given a choice,a job with dog-patrols would be interesting , but there’s no call apparently for this chez Isle Of Wight and so mobile work seems a good trade off.
I’m under no illusions appropo remuneration but as long as bills are covered, i’m good to go, albeit with the suspicion that there’s bound to be several ‘flies lurking in the ointment’ so to speak in relation to my musings on what the realities of the job actually entail with this type of gig.Two decades in lorrying and potentially facing the harsh reality of not being up to the job any longer- not exactly helped by perpetual-treatment delays-due-to CV19 (12 frikin months) being -a key factor in all of this and it does,if being honest,fill me with a certain dread when pondering the notion of working alongside others (listening to Moron FM,tribal-politics etc,etc).At least time always flew by when in motion with the heavies.Tricky one.Lighthouse keeping certainly appeals but the buggers are all automated these days alas or acting as yuppie domiciles.Any advice,gratefully appreciated?
If you think you get paid ■■■■ as a truck driver then security is even worse. The big money is in close protection with vips but you’d need a lot of experience with that.
adam277:
My advice to starting any new job is just wing it and see how it goes.
It works for me. I always jump in headfirst.
That’s always been my standard approach,especially with transport but 2 decades of it,it tends to become a part of you are,l love driving the rigs and hope to return in some capacity but l am in search of more…hands-on-info,not being one inclined to exit frying pans into nearby fire situations.
toonsy:
Given the states of most security guard types ive come across I can’t see it being either difficult or challenging as a job.
Did some shopping in my local supermarket yesterday,as I left,I set off the alarm
Security bod comes over,and notices that some “wag” had attached a couple of security tags to the underside of the trolley,which,of course,I had failed to notice
“Why have you fastened security tags to your trolley ?” asks highly trained security guard …I reckon you should scrape in
ag1992:
If you think you get paid [zb] as a truck driver then security is even worse. The big money is in close protection with vips but you’d need a lot of experience with that.
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I never got paid ■■■■ as a driver but would just like to swap excessive hours for more… humane arrangments for a time.Enough to keep me in vape-juice,olive oil and coffee beans.Sod that ‘v.i.p’ malarkey even if l was up to it.Chauffering on the other hand has a certain appeal,anything but supermarkets and warehouses.Ideal job…Euro-courier but that’s off the books now due to my anti-jab/pcr refusal.
I’ve a good friend who’s a security guard at Asda , he never complains though he’s retired raf so money is not important , just a few days a week
Only taking to him last week , mrs said how well he looked upto me , same age
Try and look at your local councils website under jobs. Look for estate warden, enforcement officer, car park officer etc. It’ll be far better pay & conditions. 37hrs pw, holidays are generally 32 days plus bank holidays. I’ve left driving for the time being due to a small health problem and got my old job back (via agency) at the council as a housing officer. We are really struggling to recruit staff at my level and lower grades. I’m constantly being called by agencies offering work and these are 6+ month contracts with councils & housing association’s. There’s definitely work out there for people who want it.
antm4n:
Try and look at your local councils website under jobs. Look for estate warden, enforcement officer, car park officer etc. It’ll be far better pay & conditions. 37hrs pw, holidays are generally 32 days plus bank holidays. I’ve left driving for the time being due to a small health problem and got my old job back (via agency) at the council as a housing officer. We are really struggling to recruit staff at my level and lower grades. I’m constantly being called by agencies offering work and these are 6+ month contracts with councils & housing association’s. There’s definitely work out there for people who want it.
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Thanks.May look into that,albeit excluding baliff or parking warden positions though. Sounds like a good number you have there with the council.It’s a disturbing prospect looking for anything outside of the transport realm tbh.I did fancy working with disability dogs,raising and socialising them for a year before adjusting them to work alongside handicapped folks, but not having a garden to my flat, deep-sixed the plan. Thanks again for the info.
At times through circumstances you have to leave a career you have done for along time,it can be hard to adjust to being retrained for something new.
My Son was in the Police for 30 years,he has adapted,and now has his own gardening business. My Son-in-Law was in the army from leaving school until he got invalided out he went to College retrained as a gas service engineer,so its possible to have a good outcome,even if security is only a stop gap. Dont give it a try you wont find out if its for you.
I have a mate who has some experience as a security guard, according to him all the easy to fill vacancies which require an SIA licence are by definition already easilly filled. Those which are a little harder to get applicants for tend to go to the local jobcentre and be offered on a “you can’t refuse this or we’ll sanction you” basis. These vacancies include working on your own controlling smackheads at the aforementioned jobcentre or working as a prison warder but on minimum wage.
So just be very carefull as to what jobs might be offered to you once they have paid for your licence.
Security firms appear to be in on this and will not discuss possible vacancies with you untill you actually have the licence - certainly won’t be making any conditional offers in writing.
Just like driving where some firms find it difficult to get workers, some security jobs are hard to recruit for - there are reasons for both, and it’s nothing to do with claimed “shortages”.
Tell the DWP to put into writing that they are fully aware of your current health condition & any alternative job sector they advise you to look for work in has been fully risk assessed by them to confirm not to pose a risk to you or have any likelihood of exacerbating your condition.
Thanks fellas,all good info here,much appreciated.My interest is purely mobile based,but the firm l approached hasn’t any positions available so if it’s a case of waiting it out for a while,maybe as a static guard at some holiday camp for example,all well and good.Seems a good entry point to get a feel for the role.Could be a problem if they expected me to stand in a supermarket doorway,giving it ‘a bit of sinister’ to intimidate ‘non-maskers’,me being one of the non-compliant these last 2 years,or even worse working in the job centre,l wouldn’t really be suited to these roles but just checking premises through the night seems very…do able,maybe not quite the same in a big city scenario.Hard to know the real actualities of the profession given its nature but nothing ventured and all that.
ScaniaUltimate:
Tell the DWP to put into writing that they are fully aware of your current health condition & any alternative job sector they advise you to look for work in has been fully risk assessed by them to confirm not to pose a risk to you or have any likelihood of exacerbating your condition.
Does the UK State really nanny people so much?
If so we must be really spending stupid amounts of money on such schemes. This country is really going down the toilet lol.
In my view it is nothing to do with the DWP to ensure that the job he applies for is a risk to him. It is down to himself only. I don’t want a nanny state because a nanny state can soon turn into a police state.
ScaniaUltimate:
Tell the DWP to put into writing that they are fully aware of your current health condition & any alternative job sector they advise you to look for work in has been fully risk assessed by them to confirm not to pose a risk to you or have any likelihood of exacerbating your condition.
Does the UK State really nanny people so much?
If so we must be really spending stupid amounts of money on such schemes. This country is really going down the toilet lol.
In my view it is nothing to do with the DWP to ensure that the job he applies for is a risk to him. It is down to himself only. I don’t want a nanny state because a nanny state can soon turn into a police state.
Well just hope and pray you don’t fall into any bad health scenarios and find yourself trying to get by on what the DWP deem an appropriate amount to survive on.Helping folks to re-engage with any alternate realms of employment isn’t helped by the loaded terms you proclaim and we don’t for that matter live in a ‘police-state’,more like a Corporate-Fascist-technocracy but that doesn’t obviously roll off the tongue in cliche land l would posit? The ship of ‘Down the toilet’ dynamics has long sailed, in case you hadn’t noticed, but don’t let the truth get in the way of a good old spleen-vent-excercise huh? It wasn’t us deadlegs who torpedoed the economy under a seriously questionable Deep-State,bio-weapon assault on the world,or the ‘blind eye’…(nodded through) viz-a-viz the perpetual - Calais/Dover…dinghy invasions on a daily basis, bountifully enriching our cultural/economic landscape in the process ad nauseum.
Big difference applicable to 2 decade veterans of one of the most, inherently unhealthy occupations around and those who use welfare as a life-style choice and breeding opportunity extravaganza.Like l say,count your blessings,bad luck can catch up with anyone without the psychological dog-whistling- undermining’s that isn’t exactly assisted by being essentially press-ganged (sanctioned) into any employment that isn’t viable in many/most cases.
(12 frikin months) being -a key factor in all of this and it does,if being honest,fill me with a certain dread when pondering the notion of working alongside others (listening to Moron FM,tribal-politics etc,etc).At least time always flew by when in motion with the heavies.Tricky one.Lighthouse keeping certainly appeals 
but the buggers are all automated these days alas or acting as yuppie domiciles.Any advice,gratefully appreciated? 
