The Borderer unit with the chap standing in front belonged to Oswald Transport of Ayr latterly owned by GKN.
Eddie.
Yeah the Rutherfords motor brought back early memories for me too, they had a workshop in Alfie Ellis’s place, these were Nissin hut type buildings from the war years and the Rutherfords shop was next to a Plant Hire firm, then our’s (Alfred W Ellis) If I recall two young blonde haired lads were running the outfit, whether they were the Brothers in question I can’t remember but they were admired by the older guys for what they were doing then. My two school mate’s were apprentices with me and one went to Rutherford’s and the other to Turk Plant Hire when Ellis sold out to Crows Transport Gateshead (another blast from the past), I had gone off to the main AEC dealers a couple of miles away. The motors were red with gold lettering and I couldn’t stand the smell of fish! Franky.
bubbleman:
Hi again,Ok lets do Sed-Atks then.
The last 1 is for Steve(mushrooman)
Cheers Marc.
Orrrr thank’s Marcus, you have been very kind to me in the past 
remind me to put you on the Christmas List .
I did my first trip to West Germany in one of those, it took me over a week 
. I.I.R.C. four were delivered at the same time, two in Blue Dart colours and two in Vitafoam livery. The one that I had was in Vitafoam colours as I had to collect an orthopaedic mattress making machine so as we were carrying our own goods I have a feeling that I didn’t need a German permit. I took an engineer with me to check out the machine which failed it’s quality test so the German company who had built it put us up in a hotel for four day’s, all expenses paid until it was repaired.
That’s when I thought, yes I wouldn’t mind doing continental work it’s certainly different 
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Best regards Steve.
mushroomman:
as we were carrying our own goods I have a feeling that I didn’t need a German permit.quote]Aaahh,Own Account Permits.
The get you out of trouble if you don’t have the proper permit used extensively in the '70’s.
Used by many when there was a shortage of kosher permits!
Hello again,The Rutherfords Atki has caused some interest,theres a front shot of it somewhere in the first few pages of the scrapbook
Trailers today for a change 
For the younger lads who’ve heard of belly tanks but not seen what they look like,heres a pic…question for the middle easters ,how do you get the derv out…the red airlines involved somewhere along the precedure I think. 
Cheers Bubbs. 
What a horrible memory, the A1 tilt with the gates, they were the devils work 
As for the belly tanks, it goes back to simple schoolboy physics.
If you raise the air pressure one tad above the standard atmospheric pressure of 14.7psi the liquid will flow through the easiest escape route, like the black tube on the bottom of the tank.
Get a straw and a full coke bottle and blow hard, where does the coke go?
Think how an aerosol can works, you are halfway to becoming a tanker driver
Kwalitee pics as usual Bubbleman keep em comin 
hi ya bubbs, van hee had belly tanks fitted on their m/e tilt trailers, 400gal used to fill them up in m/e had a small electric pump fitted to transfer to main tank, keep up the good work bubbs, bumper
Wheel Nut:
What a horrible memory, the A1 tilt with the gates, they were the devils workAs for the belly tanks, it goes back to simple schoolboy physics.
If you raise the air pressure one tad above the standard atmospheric pressure of 14.7psi the liquid will flow through the easiest escape route, like the black tube on the bottom of the tank.
Get a straw and a full coke bottle and blow hard, where does the coke go?
Think how an aerosol can works, you are halfway to becoming a tanker driver
Most belly tanks had no sophisticated over pressure safety valve so you had to let just enought air in to get the diesel moving.
On more than one occasion someone unfamiliar with the operation has turned full air on and blown the seams of the belly tank.Result?400 gallons of diesel running down a laybye or across someone’s car park!
The stunts we used to pull when getting the belly tanks sealed in Dover,like having the valve sealed OPEN instead of closed.
Or,if the valve was sealed closed,as long as the seal was only on the valve handle,you could take the nut off and remove the handle then open the valve with a pair of pliers.
Then you could go into Germany with a Tankschein for 200 litres.Fill up from your belly tank on some laybye and get a Tankschein for 5 or 600 litres on leaving.Just as long as the old Zoll weren’t dipping tanks at the border checking the colour when you were leaving!
Didn’t it always happen?When you were on a dark laybye blowing a few litres of “Cherry” through,the Old Bill would cruise through!
Hello again,a few pics of some Maggies today.
Hope these are ok.
Cheers Bubbs.
Wheel Nut:
As for the belly tanks, it goes back to simple schoolboy physics.If you raise the air pressure one tad above the standard atmospheric pressure of 14.7psi the liquid will flow through the easiest escape route, like the black tube on the bottom of the tank.
Get a straw and a full coke bottle and blow hard, where does the coke go?
Same principle with my Mack in Oz. When the main, chassis, tank was nearly empty just open the valve between it and the one on the other side, put an airline in and …blow. When the main tank is full, close the connecting valve and shut off the air. All Macks came with such an airline. Fitted the tyre valves too to operate the air starter if your air was gone during the night. Modern motors, jumper leads - stick 'em.
bubbleman:
Hello again,The Rutherfords Atki has caused some interest,theres a front shot of it somewhere in the first few pages of the scrapbookCheers Bubbs.
At risk of hi-jacking the “bubblethread”, here’s a bit more about Rutherfords, and their Continental operation in the mid-60s. The article is dated 1966, although the 8-legger is on 1964 plates.
bubbleman:
Hello again,a few pics of some Maggies today.
Hope these are ok.
Cheers Bubbs.
Whoa! Green & Skinner from Ipswich,think that one was missed on the Suffolk hauliers thread.Are they still going?
yes keith. still going. still the same. cheapest basic spec motors. no highliners etc. all 380 engines in the arctics. i live near the yard. still the same yard down the street through all the houses. nothing changes at all.
rgds.brian
r slicker:
yes keith. still going. still the same. cheapest basic spec motors. no highliners etc. all 380 engines in the arctics. i live near the yard. still the same yard down the street through all the houses. nothing changes at all.rgds.brian
I’m suprised they’re not still running those Maggie’s,and the Dodge four wheelers they had.
What about Horley Motors? Used to see them in europe now and then with a four wheeler carrying a 20’ box,doing household moves I think?
Hello again,great stuff from 240…please feel free to post anything on the thread whenever you like mate,anyone please join in…I started it but the scrapbook is there to post memories not just my rubbish.
Ok Fodens today.
Hope these are ok.
Cheers Bubbs.
Hi again,some today from the Leyland group.
Hope these are ok.
Cheers Marc.
bubbleman:
Hi again,some today from the Leyland group.Hope these are ok.
Cheers Marc.
They certainly are! Another fine selection, thank you
Seeing the Mandators reminds me of a long-gone article in Comical Motor - about a firm somewhere on the south coast who made towing brackets (Tanfield, maybe?) and did a weekly trip to northern France with a day cab Mandator, swapped trailers at some French customer’s place and came straight back home on the next ferry. Remember that one? I expect it’s in one of your scrap books somewhere…
bubbleman:
Hello again,great stuff from 240…please feel free to post anything on the thread whenever you like mate,anyone please join in…I started it but the scrapbook is there to post memories not just my rubbish.Ok Fodens today.
Hope these are ok.
Cheers Bubbs.
If I remember rightly, Bennett Interoute used to base English motors in Portugal for shunting trailers locally, but they were RHD, English-registered day cabs. Here’s an earlier example:
Hello once again,good stuff from 240,real interesting piece.
Saviems,Beriets and Renaults today just for a change.
Hope these are ok.
Cheers Bubbs.