Buzzer:
Sunday selection, Buzzer
Ye gods, that L E Jones F12, who in their right minds trims the windscreen up with all that nonsense. Crazy. 
grumpy old man:
Buzzer:
Sunday selection, BuzzerYe gods, that L E Jones F12, who in their right minds trims the windscreen up with all that nonsense. Crazy.
We had a few lads at our quarry who were just as bad, it took ages at test time to clear it all out. The TM asked one of the senior driver’s, now sadly no longer around, why he did it and he replied that the cab looks bare like an army khazi without something to brighten it up! 
Pete.
Lovely surprise on the this Sunday selection Buzzer, that’s the first AW Ellis of Newcastle photo I’ve seen in all the years I’ve been on Trucknet, I was an Apprentice Fitter at Ellis’ along with two of my school mates. I even recall the unit reg no and maybe the driver even after 55 yrs ago. I’ll put this onto the Old Northeast Companies thread I’m sure it will ring bells there, cheers Franky.
Buzzer:
Here we are it’s Monday once again, Buzzer
Three more, taken in Portobello Road, London, 1972. No trucks, but fashionable dresses.
Buzzer:
Todays offering’s, Buzzer
Love the Harrison Highwaymen, seems strange to see such venerable tractors with loads secured with straps, but we do know Harrisons. 
Spardo:
Buzzer:
Todays offering’s, BuzzerLove the Harrison Highwaymen, seems strange to see such venerable tractors with loads secured with straps, but we do know Harrisons.
That photo was taken on the city side of the Wicker in Sheffield,there was a cafe there but it’s name escapes me.
I had a couple of lifts with Harrisons in late 70s.One was to Leicester Forest from Tinsley in a ex William Halliday Highwayman,KSM 837F,but I don’t think it had the extra axle at the time. The other lift was to J28 of M1,I sat on an orange box or a beer crate accompanied by ropes,chains and oil cans. Was like home from home for me,having been used to A E Evans’ AEC MK3 Mammoth Majors,and let’s face it,a third class ride is better than a first class walk. .
The photo isn’t mine,shows KSM 837F with third axle.
Chris Webb:
Spardo:
Buzzer:
Todays offering’s, BuzzerLove the Harrison Highwaymen, seems strange to see such venerable tractors with loads secured with straps, but we do know Harrisons.
That photo was taken on the city side of the Wicker in Sheffield,there was a cafe there but it’s name escapes me.
I had a couple of lifts with Harrisons in late 70s.One was to Leicester Forest from Tinsley in a ex William Halliday Highwayman,KSM 837F,but I don’t think it had the extra axle at the time. The other lift was to J28 of M1,I sat on an orange box or a beer crate accompanied by ropes,chains and oil cans. Was like home from home for me,having been used to A E Evans’ AEC MK3 Mammoth Majors,and let’s face it,a third class ride is better than a first class walk.
The photo isn’t mine,shows KSM 837F with third axle.
You mean the cafe in the first picture do you? I knew, and often used when in and out of SPT, the cafe opposite Harrison’s yard, Very convenient for a bacon sarnie on a cold morning.
If those lifts of yours were in the late 70s and you were sitting amongst all the chains and sylvesters, perhaps he was still coming round to the idea of straps. But not quite yet It was still early days for them. Still got my first ones, in the shed and one each end of the swimming pond for an easy turnaround. Very durable, but a driver of mine forgot to put sleeves on them and his load of sheet cut through them and was scattered all over the road on Mansfield Rd, Redhill, Nottingham. I only found out about it because a mechanic I knew in a nearby garage phoned me. By the time I got there the driver and some passers by had reloaded them all, and luckily, before any blue uniforms arrived.
Spardo wrote ; Love the Harrison Highwaymen, seems strange to see such venerable tractors with loads secured with straps, but we do know Harrisons.
If you resize the pics they are chains, you can see the handle of the Warrick (as we called them in the Northeast) on the top of the rear one on the first Highwayman. I doubt Harrison would have been as generous as to buy straps for his lads, if an old Highwayman could do the job of a 110 Scania then I would think the same mindset would apply to chains ha! Franky.
Geordielad:
Spardo wrote ; Love the Harrison Highwaymen, seems strange to see such venerable tractors with loads secured with straps, but we do know Harrisons.
If you resize the pics they are chains, you can see the handle of the Warrick (as we called them in the Northeast) on the top of the rear one on the first Highwayman. I doubt Harrison would have been as generous as to buy straps for his lads, if an old Highwayman could do the job of a 110 Scania then I would think the same mindset would apply to chains ha! Franky.
You’re right of course, Franky, difficult to see as they become blurry. I would prefer chains myself for such a load though, and maybe passed them once round underneath the bundles as well. You’re going to tell me now that they have done that too, but I reckon it is either a shadow or a metal band that I see there. 
As to sylvesters, warricks, etc., I was brought up in the East Midlands to call them as I did but also stretchers and tighteners were used. I believe dwangs is a term somewhere else as well. Any others? The important thing is we all knew what we meant. Well, not the most important thing, that was to keep your face away at the critical moment in case you lost your grip on the handle.
Spardo,
Here in South Wales we call them dogs and chains, don’t know if the term applies elsewhere.
Probably straps are used more nowadays anyway.
Regards, Allan
Just out of curiosity, where was Harrison’s yard?
Mrsteel:
Spardo,
Here in South Wales we call them dogs and chains, don’t know if the term applies elsewhere.
Probably straps are used more nowadays anyway.
Regards, Allan
Yes, I have heard that too, as to chains v straps, straps are good, light and convenient, but there are some loads that I wouldn’t trust to them. Their breaking strain isn’t as good and they can be cut, as I pointed out above, by sharp edges. A few years ago I needed to tow our Saxo a couple of kms away to get some work done on it. With my wife at the wheel I set off pulling it in the Berlingo with a cargo strap and, as I slowed for a corner, was surprised to see her undertaking me. Without the engine she didn’t realise that she needed much more effort to brake. She came alongside heading for a concrete post and the strap broke, but the shock brought the car to a halt. The next day I bought a rigid towbar, only used it once but it is always in the car.
ezydriver:
Just out of curiosity, where was Harrison’s yard?
Well I always thought it was just off J.33 M1 but it doesn’t look at all like that on Google now, but it is 30 odd years since I’ve been there.
Spardo:
ezydriver:
Just out of curiosity, where was Harrison’s yard?Well I always thought it was just off J.33 M1 but it doesn’t look at all like that on Google now, but it is 30 odd years since I’ve been there.
Back in the 80s weren’t there a load of fairground lorries always parked down there? I seem to remember a big yard full of showman’s gear around that area, visible from the M1.
Mrsteel:
Spardo,
Here in South Wales we call them dogs and chains, don’t know if the term applies elsewhere.
Probably straps are used more nowadays anyway.
Regards, Allan
In the very North West and I believe in Scotland we called them Chains and Dwangs ! Cheers Bewick.
ezydriver:
Spardo:
ezydriver:
Just out of curiosity, where was Harrison’s yard?Well I always thought it was just off J.33 M1 but it doesn’t look at all like that on Google now, but it is 30 odd years since I’ve been there.
Back in the 80s weren’t there a load of fairground lorries always parked down there? I seem to remember a big yard full of showman’s gear around that area, visible from the M1.
You were probably looking at Harrison’s.
Spardo:
ezydriver:
Just out of curiosity, where was Harrison’s yard?Well I always thought it was just off J.33 M1 but it doesn’t look at all like that on Google now, but it is 30 odd years since I’ve been there.
It’s still there in the same place and visible from Tinsley viaduct, although they had a fire a while back which destroyed several ERF units.
NMP
Pete.
Spardo:
Buzzer:
Todays offering’s, BuzzerLove the Harrison Highwaymen, seems strange to see such venerable tractors with loads secured with straps, but we do know Harrisons.
If you study carefully David,the front trailer IS chained,the rear chain set has a “dwang” on the top,
that’s the way I see it anyway!,of course I could be mistaken.
David