S&P Cranes in Soton docks. I think ?
tribsa:
Hi All
Ill go with that Larry
No worries about the headlamps hes got a spot or fog to get home on it will light up the kerb or bank.
Also I think there are some S&P cranes still working in Southampton Docks I will check when I am there next
Numbum:
A couple of well loaded old girls.
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A Bristol having an implant put in. Cheers Phil.
[/quote]Hi Phil,
Can you please put them on sheeting and roping thread
to keep em happy.Cheers Malc.](http://s986.photobucket.com/user/numbum2/media/tk4_zpscbf2d4d8.jpg.html)
nah , that will never pass muster , there is a slight wrinkle in the sheet in pic 2
Hiya… how did they get the cover’s on top of the load■■? wouldn’t it be dangerous
to climb up on top of those round tins. did they have a gantry or special frame to
stand on so they couldn’t fall…it was very high… did they have bright
coloured coats and hard hats… and some glasses incase dust got in there eye’s.
did they have some gloves so they didn’t get sore hands tying them stings to hold
the tins on…why didn’t BRS have lorries with curtains so you didn’t have to
tie all then strings all the time.
3300John:
Hiya… how did they get the cover’s on top of the load■■? wouldn’t it be dangerous
to climb up on top of those round tins. did they have a gantry or special frame to
stand on so they couldn’t fall…it was very high… did they have bright
coloured coats and hard hats… and some glasses incase dust got in there eye’s.
did they have some gloves so they didn’t get sore hands tying them stings to hold
the tins on…why didn’t BRS have lorries with curtains so you didn’t have to
tie all then strings all the time.
hiya,
That was the difference between present day and latter day proper drivers when
presented with an unusual load we got on with it there was always a way of the
job in hand being done there was no gantries or safety equipment the sheets was
put up as the load progressed and spread out with great care, no curtainsiders in
those days, have I written all this to get a chuckle from a p""staker 
hard hats
and hi-viz jackets indeed, eye protection no way one concession was industrial
gloves which we had to scrounge from employees at a collection/delivery point
the BRS didn’t supply them or at least the two depots I worked at didn’t if you got
hold of some (the short ones with the cloth insides were my preference and when
you got a pair you guarded them with your life.
thanks harry, long retired.
harry_gill:
3300John:
Hiya… how did they get the cover’s on top of the load■■? wouldn’t it be dangerous
to climb up on top of those round tins. did they have a gantry or special frame to
stand on so they couldn’t fall…it was very high… did they have bright
coloured coats and hard hats… and some glasses incase dust got in there eye’s.
did they have some gloves so they didn’t get sore hands tying them stings to hold
the tins on…why didn’t BRS have lorries with curtains so you didn’t have to
tie all then strings all the time.hiya,
That was the difference between present day and latter day proper drivers when
presented with an unusual load we got on with it there was always a way of the
job in hand being done there was no gantries or safety equipment the sheets was
put up as the load progressed and spread out with great care, no curtainsiders in
those days, have I written all this to get a chuckle from a p""staker
and hi-viz jackets indeed, eye protection no way one concession was industrial
gloves which we had to scrounge from employees at a collection/delivery point
the BRS didn’t supply them or at least the two depots I worked at didn’t if you got
hold of some (the short ones with the cloth insides were my preference and when
you got a pair you guarded them with your life.
thanks harry, long retired.
gotcha harry gill… i thought i might get some one asking why BRS didn,t have curtain side
lorries.i did general for 10 years,yes i know how hard it was…but all good fun when your young.
Cheers mate.
John
back in the day , drivers would catch the sheet corners and tie them down on breezy days . didn’t matter if you knew them or not , it was the decent thing to do . the last time i did work like that was in the 90s , a mix of flats and curtainsiders . the taut liner men would sit in their cabs and watch , or fasten their curtains and clear off .it gave me great pleasure when the roles were reversed . ( do you need a hand with those sheets , yes please , well you never offered last week so sod off ) it took a couple of tries but eventually they started to help .
As Rigsby says, it was just the normal thing to do. If two drivers were present when one of them was unsheeting, the other would lend a hand to pull them off, fold them up and lift them on to the vehicle. It wasn’t anything special, just the general thing to do and was only accompanied by a quick, “Thanks, mate”.
As for gloves, yes, you would beg or steal them from customers then guard them with your life. Personally, I preferred the red pvc jobbies with the cotton cuffs. Leather ones offered more protection but were hopeless when wet or, even worse, soaked in derv!
Hi, could not rope up with gloves on always finished up with the thumb fastened in the dolly, as for Rigsbys comment on getting someone to catch the corners, loaded wool at Lyonshall, the wind was howling, had the wife riding shotgun so asked her to tie the corners down, I’m up on top 14 foot throws out one side, right grab the string on the corner and tie it to a hook,[wife] which hook, any just tie it quick, next thing theirs such a scream I looked over the side and she’s in a heap on the floor, she had wrapped the rope round her hand, the wind lifted her of the floor and smacked her into the trailer, I knew she was ok when the barrage of Glaswegian expletives came out, 
Les.
ROF from Sprog’s:
As Rigsby says, it was just the normal thing to do. If two drivers were present when one of them was unsheeting, the other would lend a hand to pull them off, fold them up and lift them on to the vehicle. It wasn’t anything special, just the general thing to do and was only accompanied by a quick, “Thanks, mate”.
As for gloves, yes, you would beg or steal them from customers then guard them with your life. Personally, I preferred the red pvc jobbies with the cotton cuffs. Leather ones offered more protection but were hopeless when wet or, even worse, soaked in derv!
1 occasion i can vividly remember was when i was delivering to a regular job at Eaglescliffe near stockton ,i think the company was called Strand .I had a full load of glass on (shower screens) loaded at Solaglass in Bradford inside , they insisted that we sheeted them up even though Strand stored them outside in all weathers .It was pouring down with rain this particular morning and the wind was blowing when i arrived .I started undoing the ropes and sheets when i noticed a driver in a brand new F10 watching me in his t shirt ,i got absolutely drenched as i fought with the wind whilst trying to wrap the sheets up in some kind of acceptable fashion , he never moved from his seat , something i never forgot from around 20 odd years ago
ramone:
ROF from Sprog’s:
As Rigsby says, it was just the normal thing to do. If two drivers were present when one of them was unsheeting, the other would lend a hand to pull them off, fold them up and lift them on to the vehicle. It wasn’t anything special, just the general thing to do and was only accompanied by a quick, “Thanks, mate”.
As for gloves, yes, you would beg or steal them from customers then guard them with your life. Personally, I preferred the red pvc jobbies with the cotton cuffs. Leather ones offered more protection but were hopeless when wet or, even worse, soaked in derv!1 occasion i can vividly remember was when i was delivering to a regular job at Eaglescliffe near stockton ,i think the company was called Strand .I had a full load of glass on (shower screens) loaded at Solaglass in Bradford inside , they insisted that we sheeted them up even though Strand stored them outside in all weathers .It was pouring down with rain this particular morning and the wind was blowing when i arrived .I started undoing the ropes and sheets when i noticed a driver in a brand new F10 watching me in his t shirt ,i got absolutely drenched as i fought with the wind whilst trying to wrap the sheets up in some kind of acceptable fashion , he never moved from his seat , something i never forgot from around 20 odd years ago
Hi Ramone, you had it easy mate, 
in my days at Solaglas we had to struggle handballing 20 to 30 drops of the rack in a van, all over Scotland, or my other holiday, 
sorry run was South Wales, Devon, Cornwall and South coast, what a hard job it was, all the way to the bank, wish I still had a hard job like that. 
Les.
Found it very difficult to rope up with gloves on,bare hands were better whatever the weather.
Hard,■■■■■ ,cracked hands were par for the job,much different now,the wife doesn’t object to the “Hands on”.
Oh the joy, frozen on ropes and sheets, bare hands, and nobody about to give you a hand.
Brought back memories has this, fellas helping, UNASKED, with the sheets, invaluable on a windy day, very welcome at all times.
Then you’d get some bolshy scrote with a fork lift, “lift me up on top with the sheets will you mate”…" No, can’t do that, company policy" 
Aye, right, you’d best p*ss off then.
grumpy old man:
Oh the joy, frozen on ropes and sheets, bare hands, and nobody about to give you a hand.
Brought back memories has this, fellas helping, UNASKED, with the sheets, invaluable on a windy day, very welcome at all times.
Then you’d get some bolshy scrote with a fork lift, “lift me up on top with the sheets will you mate”…" No, can’t do that, company policy"
I’M another one who could never get on with gloves whatever the load --■■■■■■■■ or nothing ! with only one exception and that was bricks .my protection from raw skin was a cut up inner tube -cut a slot put your hand in so the rubber was covering your fingers done the trick -imagine the poor dears with 5000 on board today to unload ----toshboy
toshboy:
grumpy old man:
Oh the joy, frozen on ropes and sheets, bare hands, and nobody about to give you a hand.
Brought back memories has this, fellas helping, UNASKED, with the sheets, invaluable on a windy day, very welcome at all times.
Then you’d get some bolshy scrote with a fork lift, “lift me up on top with the sheets will you mate”…" No, can’t do that, company policy"I’M another one who could never get on with gloves whatever the load --■■■■■■■■ or nothing ! with only one exception and that was bricks .my protection from raw skin was a cut up inner tube -cut a slot put your hand in so the rubber was covering your fingers done the trick -imagine the poor dears with 5000 on board today to unload ----toshboy
hiya…i was on the brick job from the LBC peterbourough yards i’d run out of gloves and did a 10,000
load bare handed, wow was my hand sore for the next few days. on odd occasions we’d ware the gloves
back to front, not very comfortable but better on the hands the none.
NOW whats this 5000 bricks. we carried a few short of 10,000 on a 33ft trailer behind a heavy Foden
at 32 tons,i would think with these light weight trailers and running at 44 tons we could get 15,000
on easily…wow what a job getting stuck into that lot with 3 other chaps…good old days
John
you couldn,t handball bricks now , think of the risks ! you could trap your finger or drop one on your foot , elf n safety would have a fit . anyway , by the time you’ve put you hi viz , hard hat, toetectors done a risk assessment , put the airbags round the trailer and rigged the safety gantry they would have clocked off and gone home .
Imagine a compound fracture of a finger nail on those bricks.
Where there’s blame there’s a claim!
rigsby:
you couldn,t handball bricks now , think of the risks ! you could trap your finger or drop one on your foot , elf n safety would have a fit . anyway , by the time you’ve put you hi viz , hard hat, toetectors done a risk assessment , put the airbags round the trailer and rigged the safety gantry they would have clocked off and gone home .
And by the time the bricks are off the wagon the Planning permission for the house would have run out !!
3300John:
toshboy:
grumpy old man:
Oh the joy, frozen on ropes and sheets, bare hands, and nobody about to give you a hand.
Brought back memories has this, fellas helping, UNASKED, with the sheets, invaluable on a windy day, very welcome at all times.
Then you’d get some bolshy scrote with a fork lift, “lift me up on top with the sheets will you mate”…" No, can’t do that, company policy"I’M another one who could never get on with gloves whatever the load --■■■■■■■■ or nothing ! with only one exception and that was bricks .my protection from raw skin was a cut up inner tube -cut a slot put your hand in so the rubber was covering your fingers done the trick -imagine the poor dears with 5000 on board today to unload ----toshboy
hiya…i was on the brick job from the LBC peterbourough yards
i know a bloke who used to do that there, cant think of his surname, but first name is Colin, hes a big fella thanks to doing that for a living when he was younger i think he lives somewhere in Lincolnshire.
lespullan:
ramone:
ROF from Sprog’s:
As Rigsby says, it was just the normal thing to do. If two drivers were present when one of them was unsheeting, the other would lend a hand to pull them off, fold them up and lift them on to the vehicle. It wasn’t anything special, just the general thing to do and was only accompanied by a quick, “Thanks, mate”.
As for gloves, yes, you would beg or steal them from customers then guard them with your life. Personally, I preferred the red pvc jobbies with the cotton cuffs. Leather ones offered more protection but were hopeless when wet or, even worse, soaked in derv!1 occasion i can vividly remember was when i was delivering to a regular job at Eaglescliffe near stockton ,i think the company was called Strand .I had a full load of glass on (shower screens) loaded at Solaglass in Bradford inside , they insisted that we sheeted them up even though Strand stored them outside in all weathers .It was pouring down with rain this particular morning and the wind was blowing when i arrived .I started undoing the ropes and sheets when i noticed a driver in a brand new F10 watching me in his t shirt ,i got absolutely drenched as i fought with the wind whilst trying to wrap the sheets up in some kind of acceptable fashion , he never moved from his seat , something i never forgot from around 20 odd years ago
Hi Ramone, you had it easy mate,
Les.
Ha ha yeah i remember you Les , that place was so laid back .We had a nice steady run to Paddock Wood and Gillingham then into Barking for two empty 20 ft containers and back in the day , " oh and try and get them off tonight your loading early in the morning for Porth " .Geoff Burrons used to scratch his head at times lol
