this is a question in the cpc exam see how you do
Compile a schedule for the following journey from Dover to Milan via Calais.
A driver completes a full weekly rest at Dover at 0800 hrs on Monday. He then spends
30 minutes embarking on the ferry to Calais which sails at 0830 hrs. The ferry crossing
takes one hour. Disembarkation at Calais takes a further 30 minutes.
The distance from Dover to Milan (excluding the sea crossing) is 1,200 kms, the
vehicle averages 80 kph.
Assume the driver must arrive at Milan as early as legally possible and that all breaks
and rest periods are taken as late as legally possible.
OK Del, you have a crack at it and let’s see your answer. 
I’m just heading out the door to go to work, I’m trying to work out my own schedule for the rest of the night to be in Stranraer for the 09:50 HSS, so no time for this one at the moment. 
Just a quick calculation of the top of my head I would say arrival about 12:00 - 12:30 Tuesday in Milan should be possible, 15 hours driving, 9 hour daily rest, breaks as required, ferry boarding, crossing and disembarkation.
I’ll agree with Neils’ quick guess. Although there are a few things to consider;
is the whole of the period of embarkation / disembarkation to be classified as ‘driving?’ Might make a difference.
I assume that the driver had their weekly rest in the port ready to drive onto the boat. Otherwise there needs to be some journey time to the port in addition to a ‘walk around check’ on Monday & Tuesday.
Also assume that vehicle could do the run on fuel already in tanks, otherwise there will have to be time for a fuel stop - not that anybody would try and refuel whilst recording break, would they? 
Trouble with questions like this is they are open to lots of ‘interpretation’ unless written much more precisely than this one was.
geebee45:
I’ll agree with Neils’ quick guess. Although there are a few things to consider;
is the whole of the period of embarkation / disembarkation to be classified as ‘driving?’ Might make a difference.
I assume that the driver had their weekly rest in the port ready to drive onto the boat. Otherwise there needs to be some journey time to the port in addition to a ‘walk around check’ on Monday & Tuesday.
Also assume that vehicle could do the run on fuel already in tanks, otherwise there will have to be time for a fuel stop - not that anybody would try and refuel whilst recording break, would they?
Trouble with questions like this is they are open to lots of ‘interpretation’ unless written much more precisely than this one was.
Hi mate i will post the answer
just out of curiosity is embarkation / disembarkation classified as 'driving 
as you are on private land just don’t know about that you will see why i asked in the answer
This question was poorly answered. Many candidates did not use the 10 hours daily driving, which is permitted twice per fixed week, or, that a daily rest can be reduced to 9 hours three times per week. The question required the driver to arrive at Milan as early as legally possible with a schedule similar to that below.
08.00 — 08.30 Embarks on ferry
08.30 — 09.30 Ferry crossing
09.30 — 10.00 Disembarks
10.00 — 14.30 Drives 4.5 hours 
this bit puzzles me cos like geebee45 said drive time
14.30 — 15.15 Break 45 minutes
15.15 — 19.45 Drives 4.5 hours
19.45 — 20.30 Break 45 minutes
20.30 — 21.30 Drives 1 hour
21.30 — 06.30 Daily rest 9 hours
06.30 — 11.00 Drives 4.5 hours
11.00 — 11.45 Break 45 minutes
11.45 — 12.15 Drives 30 minutes
12.15 Arrives Milan
Coffeeholic:
I’m just heading out the door to go to work, I’m trying to work out my own schedule for the rest of the night to be in Stranraer for the 09:50 HSS, so no time for this one at the moment.
Just a quick calculation of the top of my head I would say arrival about 12:00 - 12:30 Tuesday in Milan should be possible, 15 hours driving, 9 hour daily rest, breaks as required, ferry boarding, crossing and disembarkation.
Hi Neil
spot on there mate 
if you look at there answer can you think why there do not count embarkation / disembarkation as driving
Whilst OCR might not count vehicle moving during embarkation / disembarkation as driving, I certainly do. The precise wording used in Council Regulation (EC) 561/2006 is;
This Regulation shall apply to the carriage by road
taken from Article 2.1. Carriage by road is defined in Article 4 (a) as;
means any journey made entirely or in part on roads open to the public by a vehicle, whether laden or not, used for the carriage of passengers or goods
. Effectively the ‘journey’ is from Dover to Milan any vehicle movement during that journey, whether on a ‘private road’ or on a ‘public road’ will be counted as driving.
It’s over 10 years since I shipped into or out of Dover or Calais but I guess you’re still looking at something like at least 10 minutes to clear the docks, which means that having done the 4.5 hours suggested your total driving will be 4:40 or more. Whilst the occasional 10 minutes extra may get you a verbal warning in the UK, I’m sure that the foreign enforcers will take a different (and more expensive) view of things.
Worrying that if you pass this exam you may end up being a Transport Manager. With thought processes like this one is it any wonder that so many of them get things wrong■■? Apart from the excess driving what has happened to the fail to keep records / false record, as no walk around check appears to have been completed? Alternatively, if it was, there has been no time allowed for it - it’s not ‘driving’ nor can it be ‘rest.’
Hi mate
i get your point in your post but as this is the examiner’s report of what he is looking for in how you work out the the schedule there could be loads of right answers i suppose if some did work out that there did checks each day there would have got it right,
as well i think the exmaple of how was wrong as like you say he missed the checks and also fuel ups.
I’ve had time to have a proper look at this and it can be scheduled to arrive earlier if you don’t drive the full 10 hours on day 1.
08.00 — 08.30 Embark on ferry, assume 15 minute walk round check and 10 minutes driving during this period
08.30 — 09.30 Ferry crossing
09.30 — 10.00 Disembark. Assume 15 minutes driving during this period
10.00 — 14.15 Drive 4 hours 15 minutes
14.30 — 15.15 Break 45 minutes
15.15 — 19.45 Drive 4.5 hours
19.45 — 04.45 Daily rest 9 hours
04.45 — 05.00 Walk round checks
05:00 - 09:30 Drive 4.5 hours
09.30 — 10.15 Break 45 minutes
10.15 — 12.00 Drive 1 hour 45 minutes
12.00 - Arrive Milan
I allowed for daily checks which they didn’t or it could have been 11:45 arrival. Sometimes less really is more.
It is strange that they are setting questions like this in the exam which seem to ignore various legal requirements, does answer a lot of questions about TM’s though.
go point there mate, and well done will try and find you a more trying test