Hello all, Bill, that Fiat 124 was a “b” quick little motor, and good to drive. As for the Eastern block versions, Polski, Yugo et al wel I suppose we have to blame my old friend Roger Bastable for those! Cheerio for now.
There seems to be some variation in the design of these LB76 cabs- how many of them were factory jobs? The Fridged Freight ones seem to be shorter than the norm- did they have a really narrow bunk, or was it a fold-down job? Here is one I found on the internet,which appears to have an extra-long one:
Was this a coachbuilt special, or were different lengths available from the factory?
Nice one Anorak, First one I’ve seen with a cab that length Cheers Bill, that green one must be the John somerscales unit.
Trev.
The Fridged Freight ones were done in North Lopham by John Eaton we never had a factory sleeper the ex. Astran one and the two that were converted from units had the cabs extended by him.
If you are patient and wait for the LB76 thread to start there are a couple of long ones on there.
Something else I found:
It is the range of cabs made for the bonnetted Scania Vabis, by BeGe, until 1966, when the in-house cab replaced them. I wondered if BeGe had any role in the design/manufacture of the 1963 LB cab- the styling is certainly similar. This may explain the various cab lengths we have seen in the photos. I looked on the BeGe website for some history of their products, without success.
It was the same when I was investigating the coachbuilders of the LV75 cabs. The ones which i could find, that have survived, had nothing on their websites about their products of the 1950s and '60s. This is a poor show, considering the role these firms played in the development of the modern European lorry- they were putting big sleeper cabs on lorries before the chassis manufacturers got round to “productionising” the idea. Companies like BeGe, Roset, Kassbohrer et al effectively did the market research and initial design/development of the vehicles that we discuss on this forum.
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anorak:
There seems to be some variation in the design of these LB76 cabs- how many of them were factory jobs? The Fridged Freight ones seem to be shorter than the norm- did they have a really narrow bunk, or was it a fold-down job? Here is one I found on the internet,which appears to have an extra-long one:
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Was this a coachbuilt special, or were different lengths available from the factory?
That motor looks totally fit for purpose.Longer w/b than the norm.
What is that on the rear of the unit . .extra fuel tank?
[zb]
anorak:
Something else I found:
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It is the range of cabs made for the bonnetted Scania Vabis, by BeGe, until 1966, when the in-house cab replaced them. I wondered if BeGe had any role in the design/manufacture of the 1963 LB cab- the styling is certainly similar. This may explain the various cab lengths we have seen in the photos. I looked on the BeGe website for some history of their products, without success.It was the same when I was investigating the coachbuilders of the LV75 cabs. The ones which i could find, that have survived, had nothing on their websites about their products of the 1950s and '60s. This is a poor show, considering the role these firms played in the development of the modern European lorry- they were putting big sleeper cabs on lorries before the chassis manufacturers got round to “productionising” the idea. Companies like BeGe, Roset, Kassbohrer et al effectively did the market research and initial design/development of the vehicles that we discuss on this forum.
lb cab was also aBeGE cab Scania had no cabfactory untill they bought BeGe 1966 ,BeGe had a factory in zwolle to started in 65?
Yes the bonneted ones were bg too, i have no idea about when Zwolle started to produce cabs.
until 68 bonneted could be byed whit bege or some other smaller coachbilders cab ,floby did many to scania and volvo -a very few scannis did get cab,s from nyströms hytten whit,s became 63 volvos cab factory, all was avalebul bonneted whit sleepercab,s
Suedehead:
That motor looks totally fit for purpose.Longer w/b than the norm.
What is that on the rear of the unit . .extra fuel tank?
Suedehead, Looks like the Airtanks have been moved to the back of the chassis to make way for the bigger Fuel tanks, as you say it looks a longer wheelbase than the norm
Trev.
bma.finland:
lb cab was also aBeGE cab Scania had no cabfactory untill they bought BeGe 1966 ,BeGe had a factory in zwolle to started in 65?
Hi bma.finland. Thanks for information. So the LB76 cab, from 1963, was built in BeGe’s factory in Sweden and shipped to Sodertalje (how do you do umlauts on here?). Most of the sleepers were “standard” length, but BeGe could supply the longer ones, if required? In 1966, when Scania Vabis took over BeGe, the bonnetted cabs changed from coachbuilt to the pressed steel design. Correct me if I have misunderstood.
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anorak:bma.finland:
lb cab was also aBeGE cab Scania had no cabfactory untill they bought BeGe 1966 ,BeGe had a factory in zwolle to started in 65?Hi bma.finland. Thanks for information. So the LB76 cab, from 1963, was built in BeGe’s factory in Sweden and shipped to Sodertalje (how do you do umlauts on here?). Most of the sleepers were “standard” length, but BeGe could supply the longer ones, if required? In 1966, when Scania Vabis took over BeGe, the bonnetted cabs changed from coachbuilt to the pressed steel design. Correct me if I have misunderstood.
right from 67 the steelcab was first option to all l series,but it was possible to get sleepercabs(woodies) untill 69, well the sweedies corect my if i,m wrong
bma.finland:
right from 67 the steelcab was first option to all l series,but it was possible to get sleepercabs(woodies) untill 69, well the sweedies corect my if i,m wrong![]()
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This fascinating stuff, bma. Was the sleeper “L” cab not available in steel until 1969?
PS Coachbuilt Swedish cabs are called “Woodies”- brilliant!
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anorak:bma.finland:
right from 67 the steelcab was first option to all l series,but it was possible to get sleepercabs(woodies) untill 69, well the sweedies corect my if i,m wrong![]()
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This fascinating stuff, bma. Was the sleeper “L” cab not available in steel until 1969?
PS Coachbuilt Swedish cabs are called “Woodies”- brilliant!
it was aviable in steel,but the woodies were more confortable(less noice and more heat) so they who lived in cabs did prefer them.
have driven boht and the woden is more of "
class".the wooden where of 3 sizes day rest and sleepingcabs, steel only 2 day and sleeping cabs.
bma.finland:
it was aviable in steel, but the woodies were more confortable(less noice and more heat) so they who lived in cabs did prefer them.
have driven boht and the woden is more of "![]()
class".the wooden where of 3 sizes day rest and sleepingcabs, steel only 2 day and sleeping cabs.
I have posted some stuff about LV75s here: viewtopic.php?f=35&t=16537
Were coachbuilt forward control (no bonnet) cabs fitted after 1963 (making them LV76’s)? The reason I ask is that I guessed that some of the LV cabs may have had more “class” than the LB76 one, having seen the photographs- they look bigger, and some of the coachbuilders seem to have made a very good job of the cabs. Also, some of them had LB76 grilles, suggesting that they were built after 1963.
[zb]
anorak:bma.finland:
it was aviable in steel, but the woodies were more confortable(less noice and more heat) so they who lived in cabs did prefer them.
have driven boht and the woden is more of "![]()
class".the wooden where of 3 sizes day rest and sleepingcabs, steel only 2 day and sleeping cabs.
I have posted some stuff about LV75s here: viewtopic.php?f=35&t=16537
Were coachbuilt forward control (no bonnet) cabs fitted after 1963 (making them LV76’s)? The reason I ask is that I guessed that some of the LV cabs may have had more “class” than the LB76 one, having seen the photographs- they look bigger, and some of the coachbuilders seem to have made a very good job of the cabs. Also, some of them had LB76 grilles, suggesting that they were built after 1963.
this is someting for vabisman the lv,s where only NL made.never seen in north.the lbs 76 was scania vabis first cabover since the 30,s so the dutsch make there own when factory couldn,t deliver some.
from aja1/89 scania vabis whit the resting cab (narrow bed)