Scania Vabis LV type

Scania Benelux (headquartered in Breda) is scheduling an article on the Beers’ LV possibly published
the end of this year in the usual Scania-publications.

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I have been pondering the Hoogeveen LVs, wondering if that company was responsible for the Magirus cabs. Having seen the photographs of this restoration:
baumaschinenbilder.de/forum/ … r=0&page=7
… it is pretty clear that those Magirus cabs were not coachbuilt; they were pressed and welded like a mass-produced cab. I reckon they were built at Ulm and delivered complete to Hoogeveen, as part of ckd kits. The LVs they built, I am guessing, would have had the Beers floorpan cut off, and the complete Magirus cab attached, as it would have been to the German chassis. People with better knowledge than this, please contribute…

Who built it ?

michel:
Who built it ?

I think that one has been on here before, but I can’t find it :laughing: . IIRC, tiptop495 put it here.

It has the same windscreen as Van Eck and Werkspoor (Mercedes?), but there the similarities end. There were a few about, as this from Flickr proves:


Robert’s posting above shows one.

Reading back through the thread, I notice that some of JWK’s photos have “fallen off”, which is a shame. If anyone has them in their files, please re-post them.

On a brighter note, I found this:


It’s the same one that was shown, in a derelict state, earlier in the thread. It does not look much tidier in this pic- it must have been at the end of its working life when it was photographed under the crane. It still has its number plate on- R(?)B 74 00. I hope it has been preserved somewhere. It would make an absolutely superb show vehicle, restored. According to the text with another phot of a P&vW cab, they came with interiors fashioned from hardwood and leather. That would surely put all the 141s and F12s on the show circuit to shame.

The original source of the photo is Zwntransport. I found it on Pinterest, those bstds who Hoover up phots from around the internet, get their versions up the Google list, then demand that you join their scabby little site to view them and the discussion about them. Fortunately, Zwntransport had watermarked it. Good on them, protecting their right to share the photograph freely.

michel:
Who built it ?

Nice picture Michel and new for me. The location is the coachbuilder Medema
in Appingedam (the very North of Holland) and Overslagbedrijf had to do with
the later Gelders’ Overslagbedrijf, cross-docking in fact.

ERF-Continental:

…The location is the coachbuilder Medema
in Appingedam …

Are you sure? These vehicles have Medema cabs, according to the websites I found them on:

They look nothing like the LV that Michel uploaded. Is there any evidence that Medema was responsible for that cab type?

I only stated that the location of the picture was in front of the company
Medema in Appingedam and the cab has been described during 10 pages.

ERF-Continental:
I only stated that the location of the picture was in front of the company
Medema in Appingedam and the cab has been described during 10 pages.

Humble apologies to you- I mis-read the post.

No harm done but I think you’ll never be disconnected from the daft-question-image :slight_smile:

ERF-Continental:
No harm done but I think you’ll never be disconnected from the daft-question-image :slight_smile:

Thank you.

Can anyone identify this?
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It’s on f***ing pinterest, so there’s no information with it, and the original picture is probably buried in another, superior site. The lorry does not look like an LV to me- the cab is too low. I reckon it’s a Volvo L485, but await superior knowledge! :laughing:

Looks like a Commer badge up front…

mandator:
Looks like a Commer badge up front…

Looks even more like an Austin badge, and that chrome trim is in a style unique to Koster, as Sr. Barreiros’ post shows:
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=109317&start=5310
google.co.uk/search?q=austi … stin+truck
The last lorry in the post shows the Austin badge, the previous ones show the styling detail. Mystery solved.

Now, what about those LVs with the L75 grille above?..

Hoekstra out of Winterswijk for the Scania:

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But to me, the Austin cab doesn’t look like a Koster at all. Also, it would be a tad strange as coachbuilding was pretty much a regional affair, you wouldn’t have your cab built by someone on the other side of the country. I don’t know the name of the coachbuilder but I reckon it’s the same on the Austin as it is on this Volvo (the grille design is almost identical):

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The Volvo belonged to a company out of Hardegarijp, which ist’t too far from Dokkum, where the Austin is from. So the coachbuilder is probably also from the area of Friesland. It could be Heida out of Wolvega, for instance, but I’ve got no confirmation on that.

Not sure if this has been posted on here before, but found this on the web: one for Anorak! Robert

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barreiros:
Hoekstra out of Winterswijk for the Scania:

But to me, the Austin cab doesn’t look like a Koster at all. Also, it would be a tad strange as coachbuilding was pretty much a regional affair, you wouldn’t have your cab built by someone on the other side of the country. I don’t know the name of the coachbuilder but I reckon it’s the same on the Austin as it is on this Volvo (the grille design is almost identical):

The Volvo belonged to a company out of Hardegarijp, which ist’t too far from Dokkum, where the Austin is from. So the coachbuilder is probably also from the area of Friesland. It could be Heida out of Wolvega, for instance, but I’ve got no confirmation on that.

Just spotted this superb post. Thanks Mr. Barreiros- you’re knowledge is invaluable. The Hoekstra identification ties up several of the unidentified cabs we have already seen- great news. :smiley: .

I joined that rogue site in frustration:


The front trim, as you say, is the same. Maybe the Austin cab is older- it does not look as modern as the cab on the Volvo, which is very impressive. They are obviously from the same source though. I originally thought the Volvo cab was a Paul:


The wheelarch and side widows are similar, but those Pauls have a Roset-type windscreen and a different grille. I’m not sure they are Paul cabs now. :confused: Earlier in the thread, I posted a link to a Facebook page which had a video of Dutch haulage circa 1960. IIRC, it showed a similar Volvo. Maybe there is a clue there?

Just found this Facebook page, which has been there for two years :laughing: , as far as I can make out:
facebook.com/ScaniaHistory/ … =3&theater
Plenty of interesting new pictures there, much of it confirming what we already know.

The Magirus-cabbed LVs have been attributed to Ackermann, although I have not, as yet, been able to find evidence that Ackermann had a hand in the manufacture of those Magirus cabs. Ackermann cabs fitted to other makes in the late 1950s looked different. I’m sticking with the theory that the cabs were Magirus ones (as identified by Michel on here), fitted by Hoogeveen, for now :smiley: .
truckerlinks.dk/engelsk/magirus.htm

The site draws a distinction between the Van Trigt-cabbed V70, stating that it was based on a B71 chassis, but says the BeGe-cabbed tractors are L75-based, calling them LV75s, despite the cabs being mounted lower, and having the external coolant cap. The fuel tanks on those vehicles look higher-mounted than those on the Van Trigt vehicles, suggesting that they were not bus chassis-based. The build date for both types is, according to the site, 1957-58, although L75 chassis and, indeed, LV75s were not available until 1958. I suggest that those BeGe-cabbed tractores were built on L71 chassis (or prototype L75 chassis), possibly in Sweden, while the V70s were, as we already know were built on B71s, according to the this:
facebook.com/ScaniaHistory/ … =3&theater

Comments please. Does anyone know who has compiled the page? He’she would be a useful contributor to these discussions!

Regarding the V70/L75 oddity mentioned above, this tractor gives a clue:
facebook.com/ScaniaHistory/ … =3&theater


It has a straight chassis, whereas the V70 had a swept chassis. It has a white steering wheel, which suggests L75, but the cab is mounted low, unlike LV75s.

Maybe it is the V71 mentioned in the above site?

It has a “short” step, while the other low BeGe cabbed lorries have a long step. Is that the distinction between Beers-assembled and Swedish L75 forward-control vehicles?