FarnboroughBoy11:
Just goes to show how poor the transport industry is when companies won’t fit light bars anymore just to save a small amount of fuel a year.
Yes of course as a businessman you want to limit your costs as much as possible but good drivers and good planning saves fuel, you know transport is bolloxed when you won’t fit spot lights just to save, what, 2 grand a year??
2 grand a year for a successful business should be like a drop in the ocean, but not in transport.
Let me guess… You would put these on at your own expense and buy the full peek a boo curtains with pelmet and fluffy dice? Oh I nearly forgot… A table covering your lower forward vision too.
As I said before, I just don’t know what is wrong with these people that drive round with front fogs on and sat in a position that if someone stood right next to you, you couldn’t see them.
FarnboroughBoy11:
Just goes to show how poor the transport industry is when companies won’t fit light bars anymore just to save a small amount of fuel a year.
Yes of course as a businessman you want to limit your costs as much as possible but good drivers and good planning saves fuel, you know transport is bolloxed when you won’t fit spot lights just to save, what, 2 grand a year??
2 grand a year for a successful business should be like a drop in the ocean, but not in transport.
Let me guess… You would put these on at your own expense and buy the full peek a boo curtains with pelmet and fluffy dice? Oh I nearly forgot… A table covering your lower forward vision too.
As I said before, I just don’t know what is wrong with these people that drive round with front fogs on and sat in a position that if someone stood right next to you, you couldn’t see them.
Aren’t we talking about spot lights? Who said anything about curtains, tables, fog lights and seating position?
Yes i would put 6 spots at the top if I owned the truck or had a fleet of trucks. No I wouldn’t drastically spend my own money on things such as light bars if I didn’t own it.
But what my original post was about was the fact that it has to be a sad state of affairs if a company won’t add light bars purely because of fuel because that’s how crap and poor the industry is.
Yes, but I agree 100 percent that companies shouldn’t allow spots. 1mpg over 200000 kms a year is a lot more than a few quid… Drivers wanting to pay for this blingage are beyond a joke.
bigtruck:
Mulgrew also appear to have went down the light bar free route.
And in English…■■
You seem to be unable to read simple English so here goes. A FIRM NAMED MULGREW NO LONGER FITS LIGHTBARS. SORRY I CAN’T DO BRAILLE.
Cant see how the original comment could be made anymore straightforward!
Jesus. SImple English is it?
If you can’t see that the sentence in red above is grammatically incorrect, you should be ashamed at your lack of understanding of the language you (allegedly) speak and understand. At least the second attempt made sense.
Try looking up the words ‘went’ and ‘gone’ and try again.
Perhaps you ought to all go off and become footballers or something.
Perhaps you should get a job in teaching or something along those lines, you appear to be a bit up yourself. My apologies if my original comment was not grammatically correct, I wrongly assumed a normal person could understand it. I am but a lowly lorry driver.
+1
Surely the art of speaking English is in understanding the majority of the world. I had no problem understanding the sentence in red. Yes it was grammatically incorrect but the beauty of English is the way the language develops locally.
How quick you all are to defend what is a very basic error of the mother tongue…it’s not about ‘being a teacher’ or being ‘stuck up.’ It’s just BASIC ENGLISH for God’s sake. Something that all of us should hopefully understand whose first language is English.
Curiously, a lot of the peeps on here for which English is their second language have a better grasp of the way the language works.
A sign of the times today unfortunately - ‘well it’s completely wrong and not as it should be but it’ll do…’
Drivers want to be treated as ‘professionals’ and can’t even correctly write a sentence my nine year old could see the fault in. Other drivers then defend it with what appears to be an argument of ‘we’re only truck drivers, you have to expect us to be as thick as ■■■■.’
Not bad, one page of relies but not one answer specific to the ops question. Why do people insist on picking up people on there use of English just because something is incorrect. Not everyone has a perfect grasp of the written or spoken word, certainly not me. People are leaving this forum in droves because of all the ■■■■■■■■ and back biting, it is supposed to be a drivers forum, not a mumsnet rival. Oh and sorry op,no I do not know the difference between the two models, but would suspect its nothing more than a name change.
Truckulent:
How quick you all are to defend what is a very basic error of the mother tongue…it’s not about ‘being a teacher’ or being ‘stuck up.’ It’s just BASIC ENGLISH for God’s sake. Something that all of us should hopefully understand whose first language is English.
Curiously, a lot of the peeps on here for which English is their second language have a better grasp of the way the language works.
A sign of the times today unfortunately - ‘well it’s completely wrong and not as it should be but it’ll do…’
Drivers want to be treated as ‘professionals’ and can’t even correctly write a sentence my nine year old could see the fault in. Other drivers then defend it with what appears to be an argument of ‘we’re only truck drivers, you have to expect us to be as thick as [zb].’
EPIC FAIL…
So, first, your grammar is awful. The end of the first paragraph should read :- Something that all of us, whose first language is English, should understand. Not the mumbo jumbo you put.
Secondly, after a full stop you should start with a capital letter, including multiple full stops…Like this.
Third, peeps? Do you mean people?
Fourth, when using quotation marks, if the first word has an apostrophe in it you should use the double quotation mark, like “this”.
Fifth, that quoted sentence should have started with a capital W.
Just a thought, don’t help your nine year old with their English homework…Unless you want them to become a Lorry Driver
scaniatipper:
I have recently purchased a lightbar and lights for a scania R series highline, only to discover my new truck is the new streamline model. Does anyone know if there is any difference in fittings etc.
Scania can’t tell me !.
Thanks.
Sensible question to be asked on a truckers forum
Barring a few sensible answers the rest is rubbish
Remind me why is this industry in such a state
Truckulent:
How quick you all are to defend what is a very basic error of the mother tongue…it’s not about ‘being a teacher’ or being ‘stuck up.’ It’s just BASIC ENGLISH for God’s sake. Something that all of us should hopefully understand whose first language is English.
Curiously, a lot of the peeps on here for which English is their second language have a better grasp of the way the language works.
A sign of the times today unfortunately - ‘well it’s completely wrong and not as it should be but it’ll do…’
Drivers want to be treated as ‘professionals’ and can’t even correctly write a sentence my nine year old could see the fault in. Other drivers then defend it with what appears to be an argument of ‘we’re only truck drivers, you have to expect us to be as thick as [zb].’
EPIC FAIL…
So, first, your grammar is awful. The end of the first paragraph should read :- Something that all of us, whose first language is English, should understand. Not the mumbo jumbo you put.
Two commas too many here ^^
Secondly, after a full stop you should start with a capital letter, including multiple full stops…Like this.
Nope, you have used too many full stops (sic) and missed out the space between the final one and the capital letter that follows it. Incidentally they aren’t full stops, they are called ellipses. Your version of the same thing is also incorrect.
Third, peeps? Do you mean people?
Yes. But not formally, hence the use of internet slang which is incorrect.
Fourth, when using quotation marks, if the first word has an apostrophe in it you should use the double quotation mark, like “this”.
Not necessarily correct in the use of quotation marks. The most common use of them these days is singular not double. Doubles are use for a quotation within a quotation very often. If you check the internet, you’ll find many different interpretations of the use of quotation marks, including those that contradict each other.
Fifth, that quoted sentence should have started with a capital W.
Not necessarily, as it could have been taken from a longer quotation that isn’t quoted here. In which case capitalisation is not required.
Just a thought, don’t help your nine year old with their English homework…Unless you want them to become a Lorry Driver
No space after the ellipsis, too many dots in the ellipsis, no full stop after the ellipsis and no space between the end of the ellipsis and the new capital letter. Lorry driver requires no capitalisation. Your use of the comma after the word ‘thought’ is debatable as a full stop and new sentence would have been better.
If you’re going to correct my errors, that’s great. I’m always ready to improve. It does need to be correct though to be any use!
Truckulent:
How quick you all are to defend what is a very basic error of the mother tongue…it’s not about ‘being a teacher’ or being ‘stuck up.’ It’s just BASIC ENGLISH for God’s sake. Something that all of us should hopefully understand whose first language is English.
Curiously, a lot of the peeps on here for which English is their second language have a better grasp of the way the language works.
A sign of the times today unfortunately - ‘well it’s completely wrong and not as it should be but it’ll do…’
Drivers want to be treated as ‘professionals’ and can’t even correctly write a sentence my nine year old could see the fault in. Other drivers then defend it with what appears to be an argument of ‘we’re only truck drivers, you have to expect us to be as thick as [zb].’
You’d really have to question the mentality of someone who comes to look at a topic, realised he has nothing constructive to say, so decides to start some moronic argument about peoples use of the English language whilst their own isn’t top notch to say the least. Everybody get a ■■■■■■■ grip and stop ruining topic after topic. If you’ve nothing relevant or constructive to say I’ve a radical idea for you, say nothing. Yep, amazing isn’t it.
I disagree on the too many commas part. The comma is used to indicate a pause, which you would use when adding additional information to a sentence, as in, adding the ‘first language’ to English speaking.
So they’re not full stops then, you learn a new thing… I don’t use them in my writing. They’re a bit of an internet thing as far as I’m concerned…
All of this is why I (& other professional writers) have a sub editor to make sure the t’s are crossed and the i’s are dotted. Nobody on here is being a professional writer, even the professional writers, it’s a Lorry Driver’s forum and, although it’s frustrating at times, you will see poor spelling and grammar.
Being pedantic about it does the forum no good whatsoever, especially as we’ve both proven, it’s very easy to make grammatical errors, so we could end up making ourselves look a bit silly.
That was the point of my initial response, I did find it ironic that you made grammatical errors in a post about grammar and even though I did the same, I achieved my goal and in doing so I left myself wide open.
You come back pointing out my errors, I can do the same and it then turns into a game of grammatical ping pong.
This is not what this site is for, it’s for drivers to ask questions about light bars (or whatever) the SAGP (Self Appointed Grammar Police) do not belong here.
I think Luke has the best idea, if you haven’t got anything constructive to say regarding a post, just say nothing, it really would make for a better forum.
