Scania LB110

There was a set on e bay the other day

Dragged this from the Volvo F88 thread, because of the grumblings about it having nothing to do with F88s!

tiptop495:
hey Anorak, don’t believe too much, a bit off topic.

First 76 had the 75 gearbox.
First few months of the 110 it had still the 76 backaxle and gearbox.
And don’t speak about the last 110’s and the first 111’s
The last 111/141 had already the 112/142 gearbox.
First 112/142 still had the 111/141 engine
And about the trim’s there were a lot more,first 110 and very early 140 had still the old styl black imitation seats.
But you could find 76 models with the red cloth covered seats.
If Scania brought a new model on the marked it had nearly always some parts of the previous model for a few months, and the outgoing model already for a short time parts of the new coming model.
But yes, Scania switshed not so much with the trims (but depended from country to country).
So not to be too very enthusiastic.
It’s very easy to fill up a new topic about this and that.

Cheers Eric,

What do you mean- they’re dead simple! 111s came out in late 1974, with the uprated engine (276bhp instead of 256bhp, to DIN70020) and a few other mechanical bits. They still had the blue/grey trim and the separate “111 Super” badges on the front. In January 1975, the trim became brown and the badges were stuck on the black plates.

Something tells me that this is only half the story. :laughing:

had hub broked in back axle on a 142 from -86 ,used temporary a hub from a axle from -76, a gearbox crach in a 142 whit 870 box ,used the driveparts from a 860 ,living on country you have to use fantasy and becouse we have a volvo too i,ll know in that scannies are lightyears better :sunglasses: even the 4 series ,cheers benkku

bma.finland:
had hub broked in back axle on a 142 from -86 ,used temporary a hub from a axle from -76, a gearbox crach in a 142 whit 870 box ,used the driveparts from a 860 ,living on country you have to use fantasy and becouse we have a volvo too i,ll know in that scannies are lightyears better :sunglasses: even the 4 series ,cheers benkku

Hey benkuu, sorry but here Scania lost his fourth place on the market with it’s 4 serie,all could break broke. And in a time the FH 420 was very very good and Daf’s XF’s. lots changed away from Scania and never came back.
Of course the mentality of Scania did noting good too,with Volvo and Daf Always standing beside his customers.
Cheers Eric,

Can you remember that cigar advert where the guy say “Happiness is a cigar called hamlet”. Well I think happiness is listening to the whistle of the turbo on a well balanced 110. I drove several 110s both split boxes and range change and they both had their good bits, but I think the splitter box was fantastic. Scania in the early years had the edge on other manufacturers because they had brought out this innovative new cab that everyone and his mother loved, this along with comfort, dealership network and reliability made the 110 every ones choice.

I remember as a kid having a night out with my brother around 1981/2 in a110 daycab with a pull down bed.
He worked for a bloke called Ken Scott who operated out of frating near Colchester. Anyone remember him, mainly ran Sed Atks 400’s brown cabs with orange stripes.
I always though the 110 with the square headlamps set in the bumper was a much nicer looking truck than the latter round headlamp setup of the 111’s, anyone agree.

ERF ECX:
I remember as a kid having a night out with my brother around 1981/2 in a110 daycab with a pull down bed.
He worked for a bloke called Ken Scott who operated out of frating near Colchester. Anyone remember him, mainly ran Sed Atks 400’s brown cabs with orange stripes.
I always though the 110 with the square headlamps set in the bumper was a much nicer looking truck than the latter round headlamp setup of the 111’s, anyone agree.

Yes I agree although they look much better, the headlights were changed as those in the bumper on the 110 were ■■■■ poor and constantly suffered from stone chips and breaks.

Trev_H:

ERF ECX:
I remember as a kid having a night out with my brother around 1981/2 in a110 daycab with a pull down bed.
He worked for a bloke called Ken Scott who operated out of frating near Colchester. Anyone remember him, mainly ran Sed Atks 400’s brown cabs with orange stripes.
I always though the 110 with the square headlamps set in the bumper was a much nicer looking truck than the latter round headlamp setup of the 111’s, anyone agree.

Yes I agree although they look much better, the headlights were changed as those in the bumper on the 110 were ■■■■ poor and constantly suffered from stone chips and breaks.

The original lamp design was fabulous to look at, if not to see by, judging by most accounts!

The LB110 cab was a superb piece of styling work- Mr. Sherrow managed to integrate the necessarily round shapes into a square thing with such skill that they became elegant features in themselves. The wheelarches are one example, putting oval lamps into rectangular bezels was another.

There is some evidence that performance of the oval lamps was unsatisfactory from the start, even to the factory. The LBT140 that did the rounds of the European press in 1970 had rectangular lamps, and similar conversions can be seen on several photographs from the period. Do any of our Scandinavian correspondents know anything about this?


I get the impression that the 111 was cheaper to make, in many areas. Indeed, it seems that, after the LB110 had made its first impression, Scania’s engineers were at pains to make it more profitable. The cabs were more rot-prone after 1971, according to one CM article I read. The plastic dashboard of the 111 looks a lot less elaborate than the 110’s steel assembly. You would have thought that simply improving the lamps themselves would have solved the performance problem, but the round lamps on the late 1973 models look like a cheap fix.

Many other makes had the lamps in the bumper- Mercedes persevered with the idea until the 1990s, for example. Were these competitors’ lamps as bad as the LB110’s?

ERF ECX:
I remember as a kid having a night out with my brother around 1981/2 in a110 daycab with a pull down bed.
He worked for a bloke called Ken Scott who operated out of frating near Colchester. Anyone remember him, mainly ran Sed Atks 400’s brown cabs with orange stripes.
I always though the 110 with the square headlamps set in the bumper was a much nicer looking truck than the latter round headlamp setup of the 111’s, anyone agree.

My dad done a bit for Scotts in one of his Sed Atks, he had a yard in Manningtree but still lived in Frating.

Blimey small world. What was your dad’s name? I remember going in a W reg 400 a 401 a V reg blue F10 with red stripes and he also had an F7 in I remember rightly.
Don’t know what year he packed up though.

Hey, In de '60’s and '70’s some countries made it law to put the headlights in the bumper,and for Italy Volvo had to down the headlights of it’s F89 for homologation before '77.
Bye Eric,

Hey, the square LB headlights were the same as some German used one’s. Nearly all Bosch and Hella used on Swedish were used on Germans too. The straight F88 flashers,you will find them on German marques.
It was a time everything must be cheaper,LB and L same headlights and so on.
In the '60’s and '70’s the lighting was poor on lorries till Volvo’s F10/12 and Daf’s 2800 came. But we came around with 2 weak lamps and now they don’t see enough with 6 on the top and 8 down the front. Of course 2 on the top was welcomed in the dark East and some other countries.
Nowadays it’s different even a mirror doesn’t fit anymore on an other.
And about rust there was less salted in those days.

Bye Eric,

ERF ECX:
Blimey small world. What was your dad’s name? I remember going in a W reg 400 a 401 a V reg blue F10 with red stripes and he also had an F7 in I remember rightly.
Don’t know what year he packed up though.

Dad’s name was Derek Wilkinson (Wilkie), I did a few runs with him and also remember going to the governor’s house to be paid.

In Sweden at Parl Rally.