Scania fined

bbc.co.uk/news/business-41413022

You would think if they were involved in a price fixing cartel it wouldn’t be to keep them as the most expensive?, also MAN the whistle blowers, don’t they own Scania?.

Yep , 100% so your tang mobil is no better than your QE2 steering wheel truck

blue estate:
Yep , 100% so your tang mobil is no better than your QE2 steering wheel truck

That makes no sense at all.

A.

NB12:
Scania fined 880m euros over price collusion - BBC News

You would think if they were involved in a price fixing cartel it wouldn’t be to keep them as the most expensive?,

Surely that would be the whole point of price fixing, to maximise the potential profit.

Adonis.:

blue estate:
Yep , 100% so your tang mobil is no better than your QE2 steering wheel truck

That makes no sense at all.

A.

Let me put it in primary school English for you !
Your tarted up Scania V8 badged top line is no better than your top of the range TGXL as the been counters at VAG would have had them both using common parts
All the badge on the grille is just that a badge

blue estate:

Adonis.:

blue estate:
Yep , 100% so your tang mobil is no better than your QE2 steering wheel truck

That makes no sense at all.

A.

Let me put it in primary school English for you !
Your tarted up Scania V8 badged top line is no better than your top of the range TGXL as the been counters at VAG would have had them both using common parts
All the badge on the grille is just that a badge

Other than being completely different trucks? A totally different interior? Completely different engines and gearboxes? Different chassis?

By your logic that would mean a VW Up is no different to a Bentley, after all the badge is just a badge.

A little van driver all jealous of V8s, bless him.

A.

blue estate:

Adonis.:

blue estate:
Yep , 100% so your tang mobil is no better than your QE2 steering wheel truck

That makes no sense at all.

A.

Let me put it in primary school English for you !
Your tarted up Scania V8 badged top line is no better than your top of the range TGXL as the been counters at VAG would have had them both using common parts
All the badge on the grille is just that a badge

Have you driven both? Im guessing not with a reply like that.

They deffo dont share many parts on the interior wise, and i thought the new MAN were going to be kitted out with scania running gear.

Oh well, just another drama for VW to deal with.

Adonis.:

blue estate:

Adonis.:

blue estate:
Yep , 100% so your tang mobil is no better than your QE2 steering wheel truck

That makes no sense at all.

A.

Let me put it in primary school English for you !
Your tarted up Scania V8 badged top line is no better than your top of the range TGXL as the been counters at VAG would have had them both using common parts
All the badge on the grille is just that a badge

Other than being completely different trucks? A totally different interior? Completely different engines and gearboxes? Different chassis?

By your logic that would mean a VW Up is no different to a Bentley, after all the badge is just a badge.

A little van driver all jealous of V8s, bless him.

A.

Or a Renault Premium is a Volvo…

Ve haff vays off making you pay…:slight_smile:

Santa:
Ve haff vays off making you pay…:slight_smile:

Or ve haf vays of issuing an EU directive banning ze use of pushrod V8 engines. :smiling_imp: :laughing: :laughing:

del trotter:

NB12:
Scania fined 880m euros over price collusion - BBC News

You would think if they were involved in a price fixing cartel it wouldn’t be to keep them as the most expensive?,

Surely that would be the whole point of price fixing, to maximise the potential profit.

I can’t see why it’s in a manufacturers own interest to collude with others to ensure that they are the most expensive■■?. Also why one company would be whistle blower so that its sister company cops a massive fine?.

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I can’t see why it’s in a manufacturers own interest to collude with others to ensure that they are the most expensive■■?. Also why one company would be whistle blower so that its sister company cops a massive fine?.

Maybe to avoid the other extreme of a race to the bottom under cutting war in which employee’s wages are usually the first thing that suffer. :bulb:

While as we know even the most integrated state funded conglomerate of BL was sometimes crippled by internal competition and lack of co operation between the different marques who’d sometimes happily stitch each other up to get an edge.Which some say is what took AEC out and certainly Triumph in favour of Rover.

NB12:

del trotter:

NB12:
Scania fined 880m euros over price collusion - BBC News

You would think if they were involved in a price fixing cartel it wouldn’t be to keep them as the most expensive?,

Surely that would be the whole point of price fixing, to maximise the potential profit.

I can’t see why it’s in a manufacturers own interest to collude with others to ensure that they are the most expensive■■?.

The big V8’s might be, but are the fleet spec Scania’s really much more expensive than the other makes?
If they were why would the big fleets buy them, they aren’t into badges, just costs of ownership?

NB12:
Also why one company would be whistle blower so that its sister company cops a massive fine?.

Although the companies are in the same group, the companies probably operate very much as separate companies, even if they share some components and R&D to keep costs down, but then companies have done that for years even when they aren’t part of the same overall group.

MAN might have thought the regulators were closing in and felt it was better for them if they were to blow the whistle than get found out, or somebody high up might have had a pang of conscience and felt they should tell all. :open_mouth: Yea! okay more likely they were going to get caught :confused: